the Christ and the Buddha

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   mischeviousmeposted 13 years ago

   Check this video out.
   
   http://youtu.be/n6XNO6Jv3q0

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      Disappearingheadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting. It would perhaps offer an alternative interpretation on Jesus' saying that "no man can come to the Father but through me"; something like no man can come to God unless he follows my teachings and principles. Then one might argue that one who follows Buddha's teaching would also come to God. Jesus did also say that he had other sheep not of this fold (Israel).
      
      (intellectually we can say these things because as the gospels were written decades after his death we don't have any guarantee that we have his words verbatim).
      
      It's makes for an interesting set of thought experiments, but I'm in danger now of some heresy I'm sure.

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         mischeviousmeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Did you enjoy the video? Some people think Jesus journeyed east when he was 12, this would explain why none saw him again until he was 32.

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            brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Luke 2:41   Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover.
              Luke 2:42   And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast.
            
              Luke 2:46   And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
              Luke 2:47   And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.
            
            why would jesus go to india? Gods people are the jews picked from ancient times and he had a work to do there, yes there are jews scattered all through asia, europe and africa but he was sent to those in the abrahamic land where scripture prophesies that out of Zion shall come.... Zion is in jerusalem. Its the full counsel of scripture that gives us an overall view of Jesus ministry and where it should occur not just one single verse.
            Jesus already knew enough to astonish masters and teachers about the scripture, so it was not to learn. Jesus says about others not of this fold but taken in context it does not mean india because if so, then it must also mean other nations as well, some to the east, north and south... but jesus was only concerned with the jewish nation, the restoration of israel and fulfilling scripture.
            When jesus work was done and after his death, then his resurrection he ascended to the father and that is the way it happened.
            We cannot read more into what is already there we need to adopt a conclusion based on the evidence not on our or other peoples preference.

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            Disappearingheadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Yes I did enjoy the video. It reminded me that I do not live up to Jesus' teachings. Whilst it would be easy to get misty eyed about the simple lives of these monks uncorrupted by modern society, they are in a very privileged position; the rest of Tibetan society leads a life of comparative poverty and drudgery. Nevertheless, I see the harmony with the Buddhist philosophies and the teachings of Jesus.

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               mischeviousmeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               The world is a tough place. The monks are no more privileged than anyone else in Tibet. They still have the claws of the Chinese government hanging over them.

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         lalhttposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         In buddhism there is no almighty god. If you follow the teaching you can become eternal soul. There will be no more rebirth after you gain eternity. (nirwanaya)
         see  www.lankalibrary.com/bud.html "Buddhism differes from other religions because (i) it does not believe in a Creator or an Almighty God who is responsible for all our actions, (ii) Buddhism, in actual sense, is not a religion, though people generally call it so, because there is no belief in, recognition of, or of a higher unseen authority, or a controlling power, but emotions and morality connected therewith, (iii) is a moral philosophy in pursuit of wisdom and knowledge, norms and laws, and all other things connected therewith."

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   PDPooleposted 13 years ago

   When you consider the original use of the word heretic simply meant "one who questions"....I wear that label in dayglo neon....nothing wrong with questioning...it goes hand in hand (so to speak) with answering! I enjoy your hubs...thanks for making me think......more...

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      mischeviousmeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for reading my hubs, I didn't even think people read those anymore.

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   Insane Mundaneposted 13 years ago

   Yeah, so basically eliminate the dogma dung and organized religions, and praise be the deep-ingrained conscience and altruism that we all possess - for most sane individuals surely know right from wrong and/or what is good for their species when considering long term survival.  At any less than divine rate, simplicity if the ultimate sophistication.

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      brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If only knowing what was right from wrong and being altruistic was all there was to christianity there would be little point to it. The main thrust of christianity is that God be involved in the christians life on a daily basis.
      There is no human concept, thought or path that can make this happen. It only happens through God.

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         mischeviousmeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         To be connected to God and the universe, all one needs to do is be minful of the interconnectedness of all things. I am God and so are all things living and non. You would say that God is a being, I would say that God is all beings (animal, mineral and human).

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            jonnycomelatelyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Those videos, I found did two things for me. 
            
            First, as one comment said a year ago, I found them a bit "nice."  A nice way of thinking, a nice way of putting it, political correctness, hoping others will agree and therefore make it valid.  A sort of distraction from the real work which each of us has to do.
            
            Secondly, I felt humbled.  So much that I don't know.  How often I get caught up in the argument, when really there is no need to.  The Monk who was not willing to do the questioner's work for him.... "That is your thought. I respect you and your thought.  Only YOU can deal with it."  Whenever I try to get in on the act, that is my Ego at work.
            
            Thank you so much for all this wonderful "food for thought" - and inner practice.

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               mischeviousmeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Thank you for taking the time to watch the video and thank you for that wonderful comment.

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            brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Just because things are interconnected is no guarantee of anything except a design that works.
            All creation is truly amazing and beyond what one would expect but that does not raise it to the status of deity and neither does it give any credence to creations ability to impart divine qualities as though through some cosmic consciousness.
            Creations are simply something created by a creator yet they are not the creator and commonly do not inherit the attributes of the creator. In the case of God he told us not to worship the creation in deuteronomy and Paul said it again. Jesus told us it is there for signs and wonders and seasons.
            To say we are all Gods (with a capital G) is wishful thinking indeed. Jesus quoted the OT and "ye are gods" is lower case g which makes a ton of difference, distinguishing god from God does not make them equal to each other. In christianity we can become LIKE God but we will never be God. That should be plainly obvious. And just because we think we are in 'sync with the universe' (whatever that means exactly or how one goes about it) does not connect us to God - the bible clearly mentions this.

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               mischeviousmeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I didn't say Gods, I said God. We are all part of the one.

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                  Insane Mundaneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  If it isn't found in the King James Version of the Bible,  oue dear "brotheryochanan" will most likely not understand it and/or accept it.  Ahh, such limitations that some people allow their self to have...

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                     brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I like the king james version of the bible because it makes me think. It is not an easy read and often strict attention has to be paid and verses reread over a few times and this is a good thing. What i really enjoy is having the original words and their original definitions which give Christians today an advantage over our predecessors. A whole new dimension in understanding is opened. Although i shake my head sometimes at the translated word, Gods truth abounds, loud and clear.

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                        Insane Mundaneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Well, if you like the King James Version so well, then get your ass in the discussion @ http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/91952
                        
                        I started a forum post, just for fanatics like you, although I'm yet to learn anything at the moment, but I'm at least listening ...

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                           brotheryochananposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Listening is good

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                              Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Heee is backkkkkkkakk
                              
                              BO
                              
                              This was the best post , I have ever seen you do

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                        A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        

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