If one could quiet the brain, what would they hear?

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   mischeviousmeposted 12 years ago

   How is one to concentrate, when the brain is being flooded with so much? How is it that we know the information we are recieving, is nothing more than a creation of the brain. Yes we acknowledge one another, but what are we seeing as an individual? Is one not resonsible for their own attitude toward their particular belief or mindset? What would one percieve, free of outward attachment, only truly gaining what is needed?

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      janesixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      With practice some people can attain a quiet mind through meditation.

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      ptosisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Echo, echo, echo: comatose dreaming

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         mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I take you are one of those that believe they need "things"? Always bending to whim, thinking endlessly about things wanted and things lost. Thinking about events to come and events in the past, never moving forward, trapped by worldly desires. Is that how I should be?

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   harmony155posted 12 years ago

   If you were to quiet your mind then there would be no thoughts disturbing you. Without the disruptions, you would be mindful of all your senses.  You would be present. Essentially, you would be as mindful and keen on your senses like a cat that hears every sound, sees all movement, and feels every slight touch. Meditation can help reach this state of no mind.

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   klarawieckposted 12 years ago

   Oh, man... you guys are killing me today! I'm either too tired or too ADD to understand what anyone's talking in these threads tonight. I'm outta here... you guys are WAY too deep for me right now. Good night!

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   kessposted 12 years ago

   In the man each thought seeks to gain superiority, thus his mind is in constant turmoil, for each has thought is bent on controlling the man so that the man will be beneficial to that thought.
   
   The thought expresses itself as desires.
   
   Quieting the mind is not about trying not to think...
   for this is what the mind is about.
   
   So the way is by streamlinging each thought so that each thought is given recognition in its proper time, for the benefit of the thought itself and man.
   
   This is achieved by each thought all going in the same direction to achieve the same purpose. This man is at rest not because that he ceases to take thought, but because every thought taken is by strenght of all other thought combined, thus all things is without painful effort (work), but pleasureable sensations ( play).
   
   Painfulness is the clashing of thoughts.

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      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thoughts occur whether I want them to or not, it is being mindful of those thoughts and how they may affect us in the long run. If I think of tomorrow all of the time, I will stress over things not yet realized. If my thoughts are always of yesterday, then I will never grow beyond an event of my choosing. And even though I may have no control over an event, it will only change me if I let it. So all aspects of the mind are made clear, my history and my future are all within the scope of my control. To quiet the brain totally is not possible, to simmer it down a little is.

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         janesixposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         It is possible, if only for a few minutes at a time. It takes a lot of practice. Try using a two syllable mantra.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   "How is one to concentrate, when the brain is being flooded with so much?" You decide what is important and what is not. Takes awhile.

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   jonnycomelatelyposted 12 years ago

   Sensible Hub, MSM.  It's good to go deep sometimes.
   
   You said: "Thoughts occur whether I want them to or not,...."  From my own experience in Vipassana, it's my understanding that in meditation I practise the control of reaction to those thoughts.
   
   It's not the intention to forcibly reject the thoughts.  That's impossible, because as has already been said, it's the function of the mind to think.  Presumably it's one of the fundamental faculties of the human to think.  We cannot be sure about the minds of other species, but hopefully I am not doing them an injustice.
   
   Becoming fully conscious, i.e., "Total Awareness," is on the Path to Enlightenment.
   
   Would that be the way you see it, Kess?

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry Johnny just saw the question to me...
      
      Being enlightened is full awareness.....as men we are already partially aware and to be partially aware is to be in deception.
      
      This is why you have heard/read of the absolutness of the gospel by those who knows what they are talking about.
      
      For example... The Christ man said...unless you believe in me ( the enlightened spirit in you) you shall not see the kingdom of God. The enlightened spirit is the Light of God in all men.
      
      Other places he spoke dogmatically about the exclusivity of the way to the Kingdom of God. Leaving no room for half measures.
      
      So therefore the true understanding of the gospel of repentance means change how you think....not what you think...for to contracdict you own thoughts is actually the sin....not neccessarily the work produced by it.
      
      So just as he predicted men who did not understand  will transform the word of Truth and make it a into lie, as we see the christians are doing.
      
      So we see the gospel of the kingdom of God is easy because it only depend on you....
      
      But it is also most difficult because again it only depends on you.
      
      A practical way to approach it is like this.
      
      There are no wrong thoughts, just thoughts upside down and right side up...when you think right you maintain the right side up thoughts and switch the upside down thoughts. Because of this way of thinking he knows the Truth about every thought that is brought to his awareness.
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      The man who does that will quit striving to know anything...because what so ever he needs to know will be brought to his awareness in its proper time.
      
      He therefore lives his Life knowing that there os nothing that he needs to do....but at the same time also with the understanding that everything that he needs to do will be done...
      
      Thus this man is at rest.

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         jonnycomelatelyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Humbled.   Thank you Kess.

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   Druid Dudeposted 12 years ago

   Silence. The same thing God heard before his first thought.

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      Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Mischeivious...you seem so at the threshold of complete understanding, but, then you also seem to be shrouded in the darkness you are obviously trying to outrun.  Curious. Total honesty.

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