In the NFL today . . .Offense or Defense?

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   wavegirl22posted 15 years ago

   After what we saw in the game Sunday night between the Patriots and the Colts I cant help thinking about this . .  What is more important to a team, does having a great Quarterback trump having a great defense ?

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      C.J. Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Offense sells tickets and gets ratings.....defense wins championships.

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   Denno66posted 15 years ago

   Sigh. Hard to talk about that game. Both teams have great QBs, but a better Defense would have helped out no doubt.

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years ago

   The rules are highly in favor of the offense to encourage high scoring games. Stopping a high-powered offense is next to impossible today, but a great defense can still be scored on.

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      R.Edwardsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      you're kidding right?
      
      I'd take a top-notch defense over a high flying offense ANY day...especially a defense that scores, averages at least 1-2 int's a game and 3-4 sacks per. It's a game of field position...you take your high flying offense against my defense any day.

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         drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I'd have to agree with Edwards on this one. Although I believe the Quarterback is the most important position in football, defenses win championships. I firmly believe that a great defense will stop any great offense. I mean, look at 2007's Superbowl. The Patriots had the best offensive team of all time (arguably). But the Giants defensive front four were able to keep Brady in check. Because of this, Eli Manning (who, MAY be in the top 15 QBs in the league), was able to have a chance to win the ball game.

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Who has consistently had the best defense for years?  Baltimore. They always get smoked by the better offense when it counts.

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   jobisterposted 15 years ago

   I think defense is more important than offense and only way to win in today's game is to play better defense than your opponent. Offense will take care of itself and usually feeds off of the way your defense is playing (i.e. field position).

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   R.Edwardsposted 15 years ago

   pffft...study that, why have they always lost? Because of a BETTER Steeler Defense. Back in '03/04 (I beleive) they lost a low scoring game to the Colts, holding Manning and that high flying offense in check. However, offenses was never the problem for them to hold, it was THEIR offense that produced next to nothing. It's true, you have to be balanced, but Baltimore is a great example of a NO.2 defense that always fell short to its' superior, Pittsburgh Steelers.
   
   Great example, but I was gonna use that one anyway! Also, look at the Bengals, same division. They had a history (with Palmer) of having a good offense, but always fell short to the superior defenses of Baltimore and Pittsburgh. See????

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That Great Steelers defense had to be bailed out by a Rothlesberger miracle in the Super Bowl.

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   R.Edwardsposted 15 years ago

   ...sorry, and to add to that, now the Bengals have a stellar defense, to go with that offense of theirs...but which side of the ball REALLY made the difference this year in their success???? Riiiiight....the DEFENSE!!!

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, I guess having a great running game and finally a healthy Carson Palmer didn't help much.

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         R.Edwardsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         well not really, they had the same in Palmer's last pro bowl season in '07 I believe it was. In fact, I remember jumping on that bandwagon when Cinci had a stellar offense, but no D. They didn't go anywhere that season either...
         
         but I understand what you mean, the rules are tailor made to fit a high scoring offense and keeping the games interesting, but so often (like in case of the last two superbowls) the defense steals the show.

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Gotta disagree (respectfully).  The last two Super bowls were won by spectacular offensive drives toward the end. The Super Bowl prior to that was set up by the greatest AFC championship comeback of all time by....
            
            Payton Manning and the Colts offense.

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               R.Edwardsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Okay, but in the end the offense HAS to win and make the final push unless the defense stands up and scores off of a direct turnover.
               
               Now judging by today's game (Redskins vs Cowboys), the Redskins held the overall better defense and held the Cowboys under 250 total yards.
               
               The Redskins also lead the league in red-zone defense and passing defense but in the end it did no good when Romo led the final game winning drive for a touchdown.
               
               However, in these type of games it's a few (if not one) play(s)that prevent the better defensive team from getting the win. Perfect example was Shaun Suisham missing 3 fg's the game that would've earned the Skins a win.
               
               So, I mean, I guess it can go either way but I prefer a scoring defense, a defense that can put my offense in short scoring drive opportunities.

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                  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  I thought we were discussing PROFESSIONAL football.  What have the Redskins got to do with anything?

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                     R.Edwardsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     ouch!lol
                     
                     Well, we took it to the Cowboys today, sorry not everyone can have a Mannnnnnnnning...haha.
                     
                     we'll have our day though when a decent offense accompanies our always top 5/10 defense.

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                        Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        Sorry, I couldn't resist.  Teams like the Redskins and Niners ruled the NFL for so long it's hard not to poke them a little when they struggle.

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                           R.Edwardsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           yea, I guess every dog has his day. I can remember when I rooted so hard for the Colts back when you guys had Jeff George! Lol, I remember the Hail Mary pass against the Steelers in like, '93 or '95??? AFC Championship game, I was screaming "Pass Interference" when George heaved it up and it came down incomplete. Needless to say the tables have turned!

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                              Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              It was actually Jim Harbaugh at quarterback that year.  Jeff had moved on to Atlanta, then Oakland, and I think he even spent some time with the skins if I'm not mistaken.

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   drej2522posted 15 years ago

   I can top that...Look at the year Tampa Bay won it all back in 2003. Tampa's defense was sick, but their offense was led by Trent Dilfer...To top that Oakland had an amazing offense that year with Gannon at helm and one of the best wide receivers of all time.
   
   Who was victorious? Tampa 41-21...spank!

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      R.Edwardsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      yea...that was the 2nd most boring Super Bowl I had ever witnessed!
      
      Another great example, the '94/95 Chargers were a crazy offense with Natron Means running over opposing defenses all day and (forgive me but I forget the QB's name)look what happened when they met Ken Norton Jr, Merton Hanks and that crazy 49er defense...it was sickening. I actually fell asleep on that game, I remember they dubbed it the "David and Goliath" superbowl...San Fran was favored because they scored at will defensively!
      
      Not to mention Steve Young and Jerry Rice were a factor too, but hey...who remembers those guys anyway??? lol.

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         wavegirl22posted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Steve Young and Jerry Rice are and always will be remembered. . I made sure of that one with my hub on WR's!

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         Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         The thread regards TODAY'S GAME.  94/95 when Fred Flintstone handed off to Barney Rubble doesn't count.

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   drej2522posted 15 years ago

   I think they had Deion that year too..yeah, that was the year they beat Dallas...
   
   And San Diego's QB was Humphries..Steve Humphries, I think the name was.
   
   With Pupunoo (no idea how to spell his name) at Tight End

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      dohn121posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Stan Humphries...Alfred Pupunu

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   drej2522posted 15 years ago

   alright...we will talk about today's game. If offense is the most important aspect of the game, then why didn't Arizona win the Superbowl? They clearly had a high powered offense with Fitzgerald  and Bolden and Warner at helm. With your philosophy Pittsburg should've folded and been blown out.
   
   And how about this...Arizona was 8-8 last year! Wow, look at what that high powered offense did! It won 8 games out 16! You need defense, man. And a well-balanced offense.

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    EYEAM4ANARCHYposted 15 years ago

    The defense always rules, but the rules are slanted toward the offense.

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