Another Tesla crash...

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  1. jackclee lm profile image77
    jackclee lmposted 7 years ago

    Due to auto pilot mode feature. Are drivers over confident of the technology still in experimental mode?
    Who is at fault, the driver, the car or Tesla the company?
    What is amazing is that we are allowing this experiment with human lives conducted right in our streets and highways...where is the transportation safety board? Do your job!

    1. wilderness profile image76
      wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Kind of jumping the gun, aren't we?  "Tesla has not yet received any data from the car and thus does not know the facts of what occurred, including whether Autopilot was engaged" a company spokesperson said in a statement Monday night."

      1. jackclee lm profile image77
        jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I heard that but the driver has weighed in...she could be lying...
        It is not the first time a self driving car has crashed in broad daylight...

        1. jackclee lm profile image77
          jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          It does beg the question, if all the sensors and capabilities are there, why not use it to avoid an accident auto pilot engaged or not? It seems Tesla is the one jumping the gun here. Why not develop these new technologies incrementally and learn all the intracasies of driving before offering a product too soon?

        2. wilderness profile image76
          wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          No, it's not the first time a computer controlled car has crashed.  Of course, per million miles driven, they have a far better record than people do...

          You're asking why not develop a car that will never crash regardless of circumstances or malfunction, and wait until that goal is accomplished before doing any testing?  I don't think that's very realistic.

          1. jackclee lm profile image77
            jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            That is not what I am asking. What I prefer is incremental development as we move in that direction. Just as we developed cruise control for highway driving, and later warning for blind side lane passing, to auto braking when backing up or encountering an obsticle... the next step of autonomous driving should be incorporated slowly and with many more testing in realistic circumstances.
            Rushing like Tesla into this without proper testing is what leads to these serious accidents unnecessarily. What is worse is publicizing this to the public and misleading them to think the technology is here and ready for prime time.

            1. wilderness profile image76
              wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Again, not possible. 

              Shall we teach the computer what a dog looks like, and test it for a couple of years?  Then a train for 2 more years?  Then another car, a tree, a curb, a person, a person on a bicycle...you get the idea.  To test each individual part of the system for an extended period, particularly when they integrated into a whole, will not work.

              But what is worse is not publicizing the system as ready for prime time, for that has not even been approached; it is people too lazy and careless enough not to take responsibility for their actions.  No one - not a manufacturer, not a testing company, not a legislature, not a media source - not a single entity has said autonomous cars are anywhere near ready for prime time.  They ALL (particularly manufacturers) emphasize over and over and over that it is NOT ready; that the driver MUST retain control and be attentive.

              1. jackclee lm profile image77
                jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                So it is the stupid driver’s fault??? You give technology too much credit.
                If anything, humans are more adept at many tasks...

                1. jackclee lm profile image77
                  jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Here is Elon Musk making prediction -
                  http://www.businessinsider.com/elon-mus … ars-2017-2

                  1. wilderness profile image76
                    wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    I suspect he's a little enthusiastic, but he could be right.  Some automation (freeways only, maybe) in 10 years.

  2. jackclee lm profile image77
    jackclee lmposted 7 years ago
  3. jackclee lm profile image77
    jackclee lmposted 7 years ago

    The question should be...with all the sophistication of sensors and technology, why did the Tesla car not applied the brake automatically when there is clearly a blockage. A Subaru or Mercedes has that feature already.

    1. jackclee lm profile image77
      jackclee lmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Here is recent top electric sales numbers...
      https://evobsession.com/electric-car-sales/
      They have a long way to go...
      The cost is still very high even with the tax incentives...

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    moses anuoluwa noposted 7 years ago

    ok

 
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