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How does one who is hated create such lively forums.

  1. Ericdierker profile image82
    Ericdierkerposted 2 years ago

    I am reviled yet my forums create all kinds of participation. I like and I am not going anywhere!

    There are some who indicated a boycott to not speak ever on what I write. They are writers heretics. I bless them and invite them to stay away. This is not written for you.

    Writers here are often cowards. Their base is to denigrate others who speak their minds. These people are the ones that hate change because they are insecure in their own person. Call them a housewife or an office monkey trying to find himself -- but fear is their motivator and attack the base and you are vile.

    I am conducting an in depth research as to what scares people. And in any way attacking their writing platform is upon the top of the list.

    (my wife and I were just dancing and playing with our boy. And we sat down and prayed for those who have no joy and then the dinosaur chased the princess and the knight again until too much laughter made it hard to breath) Daddy loves to chase dinosaurs and windmills.

    I hope I am challenged here also.

    1. starme77 profile image83
      starme77posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      wow so you like knocking people, doing the misery loves company thing, and now you say you actually pray - What the hell kinda God do you pray to? I think your probly just drunk, you will go away eventually

      1. Ericdierker profile image82
        Ericdierkerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you so much for such a derogatory comment. I think I shall shrink in repose and hide from further scrutiny. Is it possible for you to address the issue before attacking the messenger. That is ok if you cannot. "what the hell kind of God do you pray to?" is about as personal attack against me as you can get. Should I ask for your being banned?

        1. starme77 profile image83
          starme77posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Oh, wow, personal attack, go cry sad Seems you like to personally attack HP HP editors, and others on here also. But then you cry sad  when I ask about your God Really? Seriously R u Kidding me? Now u want to ban me? ooooook, whatever with that. Go cry ya whiner

        2. EncephaloiDead profile image59
          EncephaloiDeadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I think the issue was addressed, succinctly.

    2. MarleneB profile image95
      MarleneBposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Wow, Eric, I'm traveling right now and had a moment to check in to see what's happening with HubPages. I saw your forum and thought I'd step in to send a little love your way. I'm hoping it will counterbalance the hate from the haters on this site. They're everywhere, Eric! Anyway, here's much love and many blessings to you.

      1. Ericdierker profile image82
        Ericdierkerposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        You just better be darn well travelling to happiness. There is an old saying: No matter where we go - there we are I bet no matter where you are that the place is better for it. You are just a good freind.
        My persecution here is as it should be. I love those who revile me and not the points I make. That is really a good spot.

        1. Jodah profile image87
          Jodahposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I'm not going to revile you Eric, just dropped in to see what's being said as your forums are always so entertaining. You have a rare talent for bringng out the 'worst' in people...lol. God Bless.

        2. EncephaloiDead profile image59
          EncephaloiDeadposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          YOU are being persecuted? lol

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        Beth37posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Aw, you're sweet.

    3. suzettenaples profile image90
      suzettenaplesposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Happy Thanksgiving, Eric to you a d your family.  Enjoy!

    4. Stevennix2001 profile image82
      Stevennix2001posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Wow, I'm not even sure what to say to this.  To be honest, I never read the other controversial forum you opened that was mentioned here, where you mentioned something about the administrators or whatever. 

      Although I will say this, I don't know what exactly happened with you and everyone else here, but I can give you some advice based on my own personal experiences on this site.

      Sadly, hubpages has undergone various changes recently, and for some people, it's gotten better.  And for others, it's kind of gotten worse.  For me personally, it's kind of gotten worse, as my traffic and income has decreased significantly on this site over the past year.  However, I don't blame hubpages for that because part of that is my fault. 

      As I explained in my letter to my readers, I was going through a lot of personal problems that prevented me from writing consistent content throughout most of last year and this year as well, which i think played more of a factor than anything else if you want me to be honest.

      However, I know it can be frustrating though when your getting started on hubpages, which is why you have to slowly build your audience up.  If there's one thing I have learned on this site, it's that you can't expect instant success overnight.  Sure, there's other hubbers on here that can easily write like their first hub, and it automatically gets an editor's choice award, or gets titled "hub of the day", but you can't compare yourself to those people.

      Instead, you should just focus on your own work, and just try not to compare yourself to anyone else.  That's what always helps me at least.  In a way, that kind of reminds me of what two hubbers said during my "Man of Steel" review, as a couple of them cited that my review should've been hub of the day. 

      And to be honest, I was flattered by them mentioning that, but at the same time, I told them it's not something I generally expect to have happen.  Heck, I think the closest I ever had to getting "Hub of the day" was when both my "Dangers of Facebook" hubs got featured for awhile, but that's basically about it.  Sure, I'd love to have that honor someday on this site, but at the same time, that's not what's important to me.

      As i told my readers during that review, the fact that they like what i write is more than enough for me, as that means way more than any award hubpages can ever offer me.  I guess what I'm trying to say here is that maybe you should focus less on comparing your success to everyone else on this site, and just focus on why you joined here to begin with.  If it's because your passionate about writing, then just focus on that instead.  Screw everyone else if you find yourself never getting hub of the day, or even an editor's choice award, as those don't mean anything.

      Hell, there's a lot of great hall of fame basketball players that have never won a championship ring in their lives, but do you honestly think that's a measure of how good they are?  Heck no.  They're champions with or without rings.  It's like what John Candy said about winning a gold medal in "Cool Runnings":  "Winning a medal is a wonderful thing.  But if you're not enough without it, then you'll never be enough with it."  That's exactly how i see winning a editor's choice award, or even getting a hub of the day award.  Sure, it would be an honor to get something like that, but I don't need it to tell me how good of a writer i am. 

      As far as people in forums go, I can't really say who's to blame there because I haven't followed any of your posts until now.  However, I will say this from personal experience.  Most hubbers on here have their own circle of friends they like to talk to on here, and they rarely ever talk to people they don't know unless you say something controversial that sparks a heated debate like you seem to have.  Or, if it's something like asking a technical issue you have a question on, or if it's having like a hub makeover type deal.  however, i was mostly referring to when hubbers interact with each other in a friendly manner.  anyways, im not taking sides or anything, but just stating an observation.

      Granted, there might be one or two hubbers that'll go out of their way to talk to you if they don't know you, but again from personal experience, that's kind of rare. 

      Also it seems like you might've taken a lot of the things that were said to you kind of personal.  I don't know what happened to you exactly, but whenever you say stuff like how you plan on getting revenge against most hubbers on hubpages...well that's not exactly going to bode well with  most people.  Most people on here generally don't like people that are very insensitive that make remarks like that. 

      Maybe you should try taking a break from forums for a little while, as i can tell it's obviously stressing you out.  Just focus on your writing on this site for say a few months, and then come back to the forums.  It'll still be here when you come back, and who knows?  Maybe by that point everything will have calmed down enough, so you can sort of start over with most people on here.

      1. Richawriter profile image95
        Richawriterposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Now that - my friend, is what is called talking sense.

        Good on you.

        I like how you didn't take sides nor did you do the usual 'back patting' that goes on around here.

        Good advice!

        1. Stevennix2001 profile image82
          Stevennix2001posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          thank you.  smile

    5. HattieMattieMae profile image70
      HattieMattieMaeposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Really nothing scares me anymore. People use fear against you, and confusion. Once you know it's all bullshit, and call people on their bluff, well their scared shitless because you don't react to them. You don't give a shit! and who cares!

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        Beth37posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        How come the last guy got asterisks and the rest got vowels?

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    Motown2Chitownposted 2 years ago

    "How does one who is hated create such lively forums."

    Is that a rhetorical question?

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    Motown2Chitownposted 2 years ago

    Eric, I have a question, and I'm asking sincerely.  I am very confused by your posts as to what your actual issue is with HP.  You say that you are not concerned about traffic or money and that the vast majority of your hubs are featured.  If that is the case, what IS your actual concern?  That 100% of your hubs are not featured, that you aren't receiving some sort of personalized editorial assistance from any of the HP staff?  I have to be honest - from a purely objective POV, it appears at this point that you're really just either whining or doing whatever you can to get attention by consistently upbraiding HP's staff and writers and by trying to annoy others (maybe in a ''squeaky wheel gets the grease" kinda way). 

    What is your actual issue, and after the myriad of forum posts that you've posted, have you perhaps considered emailing the HP staff to discuss it rather than making some sort of community recognized statement?

    And I mean no offense here, but words like hated, revile, boycott, etc... don't seem just a bit melodramatic given the subject matter?  Claiming to be hated and reviled by members of an online community seems a bit of an overreaction to the circumstances.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image92
      Marisa Wrightposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      My confusion exactly.   One moment he's saying HubPages is treating his writing with contempt, the next he's telling us most of his Hubs are Featured and doing well.   Doesn't make sense.

  4. Richawriter profile image95
    Richawriterposted 2 years ago

    Very well said!

  5. LuisEGonzalez profile image82
    LuisEGonzalezposted 2 years ago

    I think that I will stay on the fringes on this eloquent repartee between inimical partakers and just observe the ontogeny of the colloquium.........tongue

    1. mgt28 profile image84
      mgt28posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      One of the advantages of working online is that you can easily avoid personality clashes, the downside is that you miss human touch. I fail to see how an individual can sense being hated by a person whom he has no contact with.

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      Beth37posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Nice verbiage...

      1. LuisEGonzalez profile image82
        LuisEGonzalezposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I tend to do this when I see nonsensical (conceived or made without regard for reason or reality ) posts which I feel need to be taken with "a grain of salt".............wink

  6. cheaptrick profile image75
    cheaptrickposted 2 years ago

    Eric,from your name I'm guessing your of German heritage.If so,I believe I understand what the mix up is.I spent a few years during my travels living and learning in Frankfurt.I noticed that my German friends were very direct in there conversations.It seems to be part of the language and I found it very refreshing.
    That directness here in the states,where everyone is trying to be so freaking PC about everything,can be misinterpreted as caustic and inflammatory.I'm not saying you should change,in fact I applaud your direct,unpadded comments.Just keep in mind my friend that this is one web site among millions and the 'in crowd' who spend all their time in these forums are just people you will probably never meet.Have fun and post whatever you like...and to hell with opinions,elitism,and the high school mentality 'In crowd'.

  7. Richawriter profile image95
    Richawriterposted 2 years ago

    Eric, I've only just recently come back to this site to write and it was a refreshing return. Things looking good and the improvements made by Hubpages a sign of the excellent foresight of those in charge to keep this writing hub functioning long into the future.

    I saw your caustic and childish forum post, the one where you insulted the editors, women and swore as well as attempting to clarify your 'right' to behave that way by saying you have a Doctorate and a Bachelors. Regardless of how I feel about that - it wasn't the behavior of someone who deserves to write at this site and I'm frankly disappointed you haven't been kicked off here for your continuing baiting of those who cherish and love this place.

    You have a 'small' minority that seems to enjoy your attention-seeking, insecure, churlish and egotistical rants on it seems now - just about anything that takes your fancy.

    You've gone from ranting about the editors (biting the hand that feeds you) to putting down people who achieve 'Hub of the Day' (Jealousy of course) to insulting Indians (racism), and now you have the utter disrespect without even considering an apology to these people you have denigrated, to post yet another attention-seeking post putting the majority of Hubpages members down.

    Sure, people like a laugh and try to change the subject by posting random things on your forum posts (not forums) but I assure you, it isn't because you generate discussion, on the contrary, most of us just wish to stop seeing your inane spouting on here.

    Then you post this. How smug you are. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    Let me address each of your put downs up there.

    "I am reviled ..." - No, it's hard to revile a person you know nothing of. It is you doing the reviling here, no one else and your reviling is based upon opinions and zero factual evidence.

    "I bless them and invite them to stay away." Are you really so deluded to think that if all those you wish to stay away - do stay away - you would actually get ANY attention apart from the odd patronizing comment? (That was a question by the way - not an insult.)

    "Writers here are often cowards." - Yet another opinion. Still, from your behavior, it's clear to see that it is in fact you who are the coward. You are unable to face the fact that your hubs are lacking substance, quality and are therefore suffering. If you were not a coward you would admit to yourself that it is in fact YOU who are to blame for your hubs poor performance and then proceed to do something about it. Then again, you must protect that fragile ego of yours eh.

    "These people are the ones who hate change because they are insecure in themselves." - My oh my, that's hilarious! I'm sorry but it is once again YOU who hate change as illustrated by your recent posts and acidic remarks about hubpages Editors. It's changing here, the standards have increased. You change and adapt with them, as these so-called cowards and insecure writers have or you leave OR you rant and complain in the forums, a byproduct of which is lots and lots of attention for your insecure, validation-seeking self.

    "Attack the base and you are vile." - I think we all know who has demonstrated vileness here.

    "Attacking their writing platform is on the top of the list." 'OUR' platform is also your platform so in attacking OUR platform you are ridiculously attacking your own. Talk about taking a dump on your own doorstep.

    Your posts become ever more ridiculous.

    I have a funny feeling that you'll continue to make a fool of yourself here though until you are eventually ejected and not because you were reviled or looked down upon because you fought for change or whatever, but because you are attacking a system that is doing well for 99.9% of us, and creating havoc, insulting people left right and center with sexist, racist and childish remarks.

    Yes, carry on regardless.

  8. Cgenaea profile image60
    Cgenaeaposted 2 years ago

    Hi Eric smile whatsoever do you mean people revile you??? You mean people don't "dig" your message??? Didn't you see that (not so) nice comment from the "Christian" a few rows up??? She's a marvelous example of Christ and Christian behavior.
    Don't you think??? wink
    Keep telling the truth.  You may even reach HER. wink
    They hated Jesus.

  9. psycheskinner profile image82
    psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago

    Poking people with sticks causes all kinds of activity.  Activity is not necessarily a good thing.

  10. Mark Ewbie profile image83
    Mark Ewbieposted 2 years ago

    OK no one else mentioned it.  IT is NOT Forums.  This is a THREAD.  The FORUM - Singular is where all the THREADS are created.

    SO, you don't create interesting FORUMS.  You create THREADs.

    Got it?

    As for revile - bore would be a better choice of word.

    1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
      MelissaBarrettposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I'm not bored... really.

      His posts are like a giant word puzzle. They only make sense if you anagram them.

      I'm still trying to figure out who the hell the editors he speaks of are. There's only one so far as I know and she doesn't have anything to do with the issues he's complaining about.

      So he's mad at someone, but has no idea who it is. He's mad at these non-specified people for something. From what I can make out, he's mad at them for not being as old as he is.

      And Miley Cyrus... he's definitely mad at Miley Cyrus. In fact, I believe she's the only real person that he has mentioned.

      And now he is reviled. Which is kinda neat. I personally wouldn't have thought that it was possible to be reviled in an environment where only about 15 people know you exist. Most of those people just post in the threads so they can flirt with you and Wil.

      1. Mark Ewbie profile image83
        Mark Ewbieposted 2 years ago in reply to this


        On the plus side it might be time for another Miley pic...

        1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
          MelissaBarrettposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Woot! I request a wrecking ball or a sledge hammer... oh and a tongue!

          1. Mark Ewbie profile image83
            Mark Ewbieposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Ah well - the animated tongue is only available on Bubblews, but here's a thing.

            1. MelissaBarrett profile image60
              MelissaBarrettposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Woot again!

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    Beth37posted 2 years ago

    To be fair, Miley really has exceeded the amount of tongue release allowed per musician. Even Kiss is rolling their eyes.

  12. ahorseback profile image54
    ahorsebackposted 2 years ago

    Eric ......Beth ......Melissa ALL of you such wonderful dudes .....Happy Turkey day !

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      Beth37posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Happy thanksgiving to you Ed. smile

  13. SAM ELDER profile image77
    SAM ELDERposted 2 years ago

    LOL Mark... I didn't notice her red shoes before... XD

    1. Mark Ewbie profile image83
      Mark Ewbieposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Lol Sam! An artist must study these things - I watched the video 37 times before I got the pic just right.

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        Beth37posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I wish I didn't know that about you.

        1. Mark Ewbie profile image83
          Mark Ewbieposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Beth... I was thinking of you at the time.

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            Beth37posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            There is nothing I can say that I wont get raked over the coals for... so instead I will just smile

            1. Writer Fox profile image80
              Writer Foxposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Don't you have a pumpkin pie or something to bake tonight?

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                Beth37posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                My daughter and I just finished... two pumpkin cheesecake, two pecan. I didn't say anything wrong, why are upset?

                1. Writer Fox profile image80
                  Writer Foxposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  I no are upset.

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                    Beth37posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    Ok. smile
                    Well if you wanted to get rid of me, Ive gotta go to work. Have a good one.

  14. Gypsy Rose Lee profile image62
    Gypsy Rose Leeposted 2 years ago

    Happy Thanksgiving. Haven't found a reason to be down and out yet. I'm like the batting balloon you can keep on hitting and I bounce back each time. Hope you don't forget to do the Turkey Trot and have a really great time.

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      Motown2Chitownposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Happy Thanksgiving, Gypsy!