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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   Try to use our imaginations for a moment.
   
      Imagination that there are a bunch of you lost out in the woods.
   
      Imagine then, that I came to you and said,  all that you have to do to go get out of here is to travel the path that I just came.   Follow me and I will take you back home.
   
      Some of your fellows did not want to follow anyone, because they see themselves as leaders. not followers.
   
      I might tell them ;  "HA  LOOK;   all you have to do is believe in me and you will be at home in your own home this very night.
   
      Some of you follow me out of the forest, some don't.
   
      A few weeks later someone remembers what I said!
   
      They profess;  "Jerami said,  All ya got to do is believe in Jerami; and we will find our way home. 
      They sat in a group and sat around saying "I BELIEVE IN JERAMI" .."I BELIEVE IN JERAMI"  over and over.
    
          But nothing happens  SO 
   
     So does that mean that this story never happened?

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Who are the ones saying I believe in Jerami? The ones still in the forest or the ones you led out?

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The ones that did believe that I knew the way out of the woods are the ones that went home.
         
            the ones that later misinterpreted what was said and believe in me but do not follow the path  are sitting around the camp fire  believing in me. Faith without works are empty.
             Remember this is a metaphor!

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            pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Haha yes I realize that. Faith without action makes sense to me.

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               Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               And sometimes works involve little more than taking a step towards what ya say that you believe in.
               
                 Kinda like if my son says that they think that I do know best and yet when I tell them  not  to play out on the ice covered lake, cause the ice is too thin ..  and they do it any way.
               
               Then is truth,they didn't have faith in my advice.

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                  pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  There is an easy way or a hard way. The road less traveled is often one for courageous. Guidance is for sure a useful thing. Sometimes when pointing to the moon all anyone sees is the fingers pointing not the moon.

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The problem here, Jerami, is that you're comparing a real person with a myth.

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         This only goes to show how myth and metaphore are so tightly wound, that we can hardly distinguish the difference.

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Yet, they are easily distinguishable, by definition. Perhaps, by understanding the definitions, one can understand their distinguishable characteristics.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

   Yeah, I'd go for that.  If someone knew the way of out of the woods and I didn't I'd follow them.  That's if I trusted the look of them of course.  I mean, you wouldn't just follow anyone because they might not be telling the truth.
   
   So I'd probably ask questions like "are you sure you know the way" and stuff like that first.
   
   If they had sat nav that would clinch it.

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      Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If I am going to believe in the story of Jesus, and I choose to.   I would have to take into account a scenario such as is presented in the OP.
      
         I think that it went down something like that;  and then religion built a comfortable little camp fire and started chanting  "I believe"   and the parishioners kept bringing in the fire wood and marshmallows.
      
          Instead they should have followed the path out of the woods.
      
        Due to non use;  that path seems to have become just a little overgrown,  but it is still there.
         Now there are many path drawn in the dirt. But those are from people coming in.  This causes the path leading out even  harder to find.
       
      Just my humble opinion.

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      Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry I pased by this the other day.
         I don't know what my excuse is if that makes any sense.
      
        When I posted the thread I wasn't thinking about there being so many fakers saying that they knew the way outa the woods when they didn't

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