Before you ask, yes, I'm probably crazy, but I think this could work with the right people.
What I am looking for is 9 other writers to join me in crowdsourcing a piece of genre fiction, approximately 50,000 words, with the goal of self-publishing on the Kindle platform by early Spring 2012 to catch all those new e-readers who got Kindles for Christmas.
I am thinking something horror, slasher, thriller, supernatural, suspense, or noir - basically something genre and not highbrow. No romance, no memoir, no meandering literary fiction. I personally think sci-fi is played out and can be too technical for quick writing. Nothing excessively violent (unless the group agrees), nothing with weird erotic undertones or a need for many love scenes.
Each writer would write only 5,000 words, picking up with the story and voice from the previous writers. Each writer would do 2,500 words on the first round, then it would cycle back through for another round of 2,500 words each, for a total of 50,000 words. The goal would be to do this quickly, with as little effort as possible.
We could then sell the book for a low price, say $1.99, and split the profits amongst the writers. Since this was my idea, and I plan to be the overseer, editor, Amazon liaison, etc, I would take 20% of the total profit, with the remaining 80% to be split 9 ways. By my rough calculations, you would earn $0.12 for each book we sold at a $2 price point (I don't think we should price any higher or lower). If you price at $2, it is my understanding that we would split 70% of the profit amongst ourselves, with Amazon keeping 30%. For every 10,000 copies we sell, you earn $1,200.
Yes, I am aware that others have tried this before, but I don't know if they succeeded. I think we have plenty of talented fiction writers at HubPages, and we could blog about the process as well as write Hubs along the way.
SUGGESTED TIMELINE
Week One - Writers apply by posting on this Hub (please have a writing sample on your wall)
Week Two - Chosen writers each, if interested, submit a story idea, with a synopsis and 10-chapter outline; by the end of the week, all writers will vote on which story we will write together
Week Three, Four and Five - The writer whose story was chosen will write the first 2,500 and submit to the group by end of the second day; second writer will immediately pick up for next two days, etc. After 3 weeks, we will be half done writing.
Week Six - We will re-evaluate here; discuss how the story is going; possibly keep writing
Week Seven, Eight and Nine - Second round of writing 2,500 words each, then we are done
Week Ten and Beyond - Editing (by me and by the group), formatting, book cover design and submission to Kindle; promoting like crazy after that
So what are the pros and cons of doing this?
Pros:
Not much writing for each author (5,000 words each)
The quick timeline means we can�¢ï¿½ï¿½t second guess ourselves, we just do it!
10 people promoting the book, rather than just one (blogs, forums, etc)
No upfront cost; if it fails, the most you are out is your time and 5,000 words
Cons:
Can we all agree on a story to write?
Are we prepared to fail (story could be a total mess when finished)
Are you comfortable publishing a book under a pseudonym and sharing the limelight?
Laziness, missed deadlines, or sloppy writing could infect the entire team
Would probably have to sign an agreement that put your rights to the work in question, but it would protect your share of the profits
What Kind of Writer Am I Looking For?
Experience with genre or literary fiction
One who is able to meet a two-day goal of 2,500 words
One who has published an e-book of fiction will be given priority if more than 9 applications
One who is able to assume a collective identity of the author when promoting, that way it seems like our one author is in ten places.
Full disclosure: I have really only written literary fiction, but have years of editing and reading experience.
So, what does everyone think of this?
Could it work? Are you interested?
Let me know in comments.
Thanks
What about something a little less ambitious...say three or four writer's total? Is 50k some sort of word limit? How'd you come up with that number?
I think of success in terms of building a career. I wouldn't think doing this for an immediate financial success would be a good idea, but to have another piece of writing out there to help build our names, brands and reputations might work. To do that, though, it'd have to be like minded writers, or similarly branded. I like the seed of this idea. It seems as if it could yield an interest story.
I particularly like the idea of an agreed upon story narrated by different characters where each character's perspective is written by a different writer, but that's a little different than what you propose.
Sounds to me like a very 'novel novel'. Just not in a good way.
Post your job on Elance, you might get better responses there.
Marriedwithdebt,
Your idea sounds feasible and workable in theory but do you know what's probably working against you on HP more than anything? The fact that you're so new here and no one knows you.
Cardisa is almost certainly right.
Please don't think that I am suggesting you are anything other than genuine - I am not. It's just the understandable reluctance of people to go with unproven Internet schemes in modern days that may be the issue.
I wish you good luck, whatever you choose to do,
Gordon
I'm willing to try, but what type of book are we talking about. I like to write quick books with an ending that leaves the reader guessing.
A quick book with an ending like that would fit the bill - just would need to be in the vein of genre fiction.
Sort of interested but don't know if I qualify. 5,000 words is a piece of cake and I do like the genre you suggest. What's to lose?
That's the spirit! Certainly with any project, you could think of many reasons not to do it. It's those who say "Why not?" and actually do it that succeed.
hmm...I don't think I'm qualified, to spiritual, and without love their is no soul! lol I'm all about love and not war! But i'm sure the beat goes on, and you will find someone!
Not interested. I think that since this "novel" is going to be something that's written quickly, it should be written for free. Rather than try to make a buck off of it, try to use it to build up your name as a writer.
I'm an author myself, and I've had enough of an experience to know that just putting something up on sale isn't going to do anything. You have to earn the interest of your audience.
Also, I would never put something up on sale that I haven't edited at least 4 times. I am working on other projects right now, and I won't release them until next year specifically because I want to make sure the product is quality when it comes out.
If you do get people to sign on to this though, I stress that you'll get a better reception if you put it out for free than if you charge for it.
Amazon won't allow you to give a book away for free, must start at at least 99 cents.
Yes, this is more of an experiment.
As far as editing, if my timeline is followed, the manuscript will be edited 10 times.
by Chris Mills 9 years ago
Good writing won't save a bad story. Bad writing won't necessarily kill a good story. Thoughts?I read something along these lines recently and I can't remember who wrote it. King? Hemingway? There's no excuse for poor writing, but I'm thinking about the value of a good...
by Kathleen Cochran 25 hours ago
"HubPages is a network of sites where people write about their passions!"No. They don't. When I joined 14 years ago I spent so much time reading really good writing about really interesting subjects by really skilled writers - that I hardly had time to write myself. But somehow...
by John Hansen 8 years ago
A few of us poets and creative writers have come up with the idea of creating our own website specifically for all forms of creative writing. The catalyst for this is HubPages decision to create niche websites for various subjects. However they have stated that poetry and creative writing will not...
by Jane Ramona Rynkiewicz Frieman 9 years ago
In my Profile on HubPages I emphasize a statement "The Best Writers of Our Time are Those Individuals Who Have Not Attained Fame and Fortune". Do you agree? Is the statement too general? Elaborate on why you think so.
by Poppy 5 years ago
Hi, everyone. Thank you in advance for reading; this is a little long-winded.When I was a kid, I loved writing books. I'd sit at the computer for hours, typing. I knew I was going to be a writer one day. Even my elementary school teacher said I had talent. When I was 22 I got a publishing contract...
by Chris Mills 10 years ago
I have communicated with some flash fiction writers and others interested in writing ff, about beginning a forum for sharing and critiquing our ff stories prior to publishing on HubPages. My rationale for promoting this idea are threefold. Once the group is formed, rationale for it's...
Copyright © 2024 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. HubPages® is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website.
Copyright © 2024 Maven Media Brands, LLC and respective owners.
As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.
For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://corp.maven.io/privacy-policy
Show DetailsNecessary | |
---|---|
HubPages Device ID | This is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons. |
Login | This is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service. |
Google Recaptcha | This is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy) |
Akismet | This is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy) |
HubPages Google Analytics | This is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy) |
HubPages Traffic Pixel | This is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized. |
Amazon Web Services | This is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy) |
Cloudflare | This is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Hosted Libraries | Javascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy) |
Features | |
---|---|
Google Custom Search | This is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Maps | Some articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Charts | This is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy) |
Google AdSense Host API | This service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Google YouTube | Some articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Vimeo | Some articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Paypal | This is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Facebook Login | You can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Maven | This supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy) |
Marketing | |
---|---|
Google AdSense | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Google DoubleClick | Google provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Index Exchange | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Sovrn | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Facebook Ads | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Amazon Unified Ad Marketplace | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
AppNexus | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Openx | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Rubicon Project | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
TripleLift | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Say Media | We partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy) |
Remarketing Pixels | We may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites. |
Conversion Tracking Pixels | We may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service. |
Statistics | |
---|---|
Author Google Analytics | This is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy) |
Comscore | ComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy) |
Amazon Tracking Pixel | Some articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy) |
Clicksco | This is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy) |