Something is Wrong w/my Lateset Hub-It is indexed under anothers'hub

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   aHappierLifeposted 11 years ago

   I do not know if this is the right place to post this question, since I do not know if this is a tech or other question,
   I just know that something is wrong with my latest hub, (written a week ago) in my Google search, it came up in the results,  in a totally different -(not mine)- hub,  but the words were the original words of my own hub and my name, It shouldn't, it should come up under my own hub listing.
   
   Also, when I Google my Hubpages profile name, all my other hubs come up in the results, except this latest hub I am talking about.
   This is what the first search looks like:
   
   "TAROT CARDS - ASTROLOGY and METAPHYSICS - HUBPAGES.COM
   hubpages.com › ... › Religion and Philosophy › Astrology and Metaphysics
   Psychic Intuition and Parallel Universes. by aHappierLife(12 followers). This hub is, among others, about my interest in Psychic Abilities and Intuition, Telepathy, ..."
   
   Where the first line, in capitols, is the listing linked to this other hub (first line listing should link directly to my hub) and then the rest of the ad, is the original content written by me in my hub called Psychic Intuition and Parallel Universes"
   
   This does not happens with my other hubs, when i search them in google
   Can someone please advise on what is wrong and how I can fix it?
   I would really appreciate it,
   Thanks so much
   A.

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   IzzyMposted 11 years ago

   This just shows your hub isn't indexed yet.
   
   You are seeing it under another's hub because it is linked there, that is all.
   
   This is getting ridiculous how long it is taking new hubs to get indexed. I feel for you.

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      aHappierLifeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Izzy, at least I know the reason why, i thought it was weird.
      But, how can my hub be linked there? I never linked it to it? Is it automatically?
      And do you know how long now it takes to index a hub, by any chance?
      Thank you
      A

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         IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         HP links all of our hubs on other hubs. You see those hubs in the 'related hubs' section at the foot of your hubs.
         
         Used to be new hubs were indexed very quickly, sometimes only minutes after publication.
         
         Since they have introduced idle hubs, and have stuck a noindex tag on all our new hubs for their first 24 hours, hubs are taking a long time to index. It can be up to 3 weeks I believe, though I have personally not waited that long.
         
         It is a good idea to ping your new hubs once they become featured. Go to pingler.com or pingoat.com and insert the url of the hub, and ping it to as many places possible (you have to tick the boxes).
         
         Usually that gets Google to notice it and indexing follows pretty swiftly.

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            aHappierLifeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you so much for the detailed reply, sorry for my late response!
            That sounds like a great idea, i will do that, awesome!!
            
            I am still wondering though,: our new hubs get indexed by WHO? Who does the indexing?
            Is it HP who has to index all  the new hubs?? Or is it Google who has to do the work of indexing our new hubs? I know I should know it, but i dont!
            :-) Thank you again
            A

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               IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               The search engines index them. It just means they are listed in search and are findable.
               
               Not just Google, but Yahoo, Bing et al, but Google is the main one. Something like 90% of all internet searches are made through Google.

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                  aHappierLifeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  OK I see, so the reason why it takes 2 or 3 weeks for our new hubs to be indexed, has to do with the fact that now it takes long time for Google to find and index new sites, am I correct? Yes?
                  Or does it have to do with what you wrote above, that " they have stuck a noindex tag on all our new hubs for their first 24 hours"?
                  Has Google done that,? stuck a noindex tag on the hubs?
                  Or is it a new HP policy?
                  Thanks again
                  A

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                     That Grrlposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Use sites like Scoop.it, Snip.it and Delicious to get a link to your Hub outside of HubPages. That will help your post become indexed by Google sooner. The more outside links, the more popular/ interesting your post will appear to Google.

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                        aHappierLifeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        ThatGrrl,
                        this may not be strictly related to the subject, but I am trying to figure out how Scoopit works, If I scoop my new hub link into my Scoopit  page, isn't that a "duplicate content" ? Or is it OK?
                        Thanks
                        A

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                     IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     The reason it takes 2 or 3 weeks to get the hub indexed is that if the Googlebot sees it with the noindex tag, it goes away and has no reason to return.
                     
                     It will NOT get indexed until the bot finds it without the noindex tag.
                     
                     The Googlebot can see the newly published hub through grouping - if your hubs are grouped it can be visible on an older hub. If someone shares your new hub with Facebook or Twitter, it runs the risk of getting a visit from the googlebot.
                     
                     HP no longer show your new hub on your profile or in the hubs>latest feed, until they are featured. Ideally you want no exposure at all for your new hub, yet it is still shown to your followers in your feed.
                     
                     Any one of them could promote your hub for you, especially if they don't like you LOL. In the past, those promotions were great. Now they are harmful.
                     
                     This whole idling of hubs is a new thing recently started by HP. (the noindex tag, pending hubs, the Zzz symbol beside low-trafficked hubs etc).
                     
                     They were told by Google that there was too much crap on this site, so they devised this feature to stall new hubs while they work out a way to automate a process whereby crap is not shown.
                     
                     As an open publishing platform, they didn't want to limit who could publish stuff, or devise a system where work got checked before publication.
                     
                     So the hub idling and pending status is to give them time to check new hubs through the hopper, and they have subcontracted out the rating of new hubs to a third party.
                     
                     I imagine this is a short term move until they have a fully automated system in place, but it is killing the chances of new hubs to do well.
                     
                     Before idling came in, all hubs were featured immediately, and could be indexed within minutes.
                     
                     All the search engines, especially Google, love new content.
                     
                     Quite often, they would boost that new content by promoting a new hub to page 1 on Google search. This in turn meant you got immediate search engine views, and sometimes quite a lot of them.
                     
                     Within a few hours that hub would drop off the face of the earth, but usually only for a few days or weeks, as it worked its way back up the SERPS (search engine results pages).
                     
                     You knew right away when you had a hit hub on your hands, and it was good to know.
                     
                     Now, when Google or whoever come round after the 24 hour wait, it no longer sees it as new content worth boosting.
                     
                     There is no mad rush of views to let you know your hub had been indexed.
                     
                     It may be many weeks before it gets indexed or gets traffic, and if no traffic is there after about 3 months, HP put it to sleep!
                     
                     There is no point in writing new hubs while this is going on, as far as I am concerned.
                     
                     And judging by the feed - http://hubpages.com/hubs/latest/ -  a lot of people feel the same way. I have never seen this feed so quiet with so few hubs.
                     
                     On the other hand, those hubs in the feed that are newly featured and are less that 24 hours old relate only to a small subset of hubbers that are exempt from the idling of new hubs, which is extremely unfair to the rest of us who have been here a while with a proven track record.
                     
                     Edit: Here is the Learning Center entry abut Idle Hubs - http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/Feat … -Idle-Hubs

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                        aHappierLifeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                        Thank you again , Izzy, and all,
                        WOW, it sounds very negative, yes, it is not fair, and it is not worth it to write new hubs anymore, I agree, I was so enthusiastic about this HP before, too bad,
                        I understand now, why before, a hub would appear in the search results right away, and now, it does not, since the idling tag. So if I understand, the hub will be finally indexed, after the tag is removed. And the HP removes it after 2 or 3 weeks? Correct?
                        
                        Does this happens also, each time we, for example, edit the content of an old hub, add a new photo or so? Does it go into idle again?
                        
                        At this point, wouldn't it be better then transferring  a whole hub content (removing it from HP) and post it directly on Scoop.it or  similar sites instead?
                        
                        (By the way, ThatGrrl, I did not find Snipit.com, is that the correct spelling?)
                        
                        Or it wouldn't work? I do not know well how these sites work yet, so I might be wrong!! 
                        Pingler (I could not find Pingoat either) sounds great though!!
                        Thanks again
                        AL

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                           IzzyMposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                           No, the noindex tag is removed after 24 hours, by HP. When a pending hub goes featured, the noindex tag is off.
                           
                           
                           
                           No, if a hub is featured, editing it does not alter its status.
                           
                           
                           
                           No, those sites are for backlinks only - to bring attention to your hub.

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                              aHappierLifeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                              Thanks Izzy,
                              When you say "featured" how do you mean?
                              A featured hub, is it a hub that has been approved and been published? SO every hub gets featured after approval?
                              Or a "featured hub" is a special hub, that has been chosen by the HP team to be highlighted and featured "the best of the month hub" so to say?

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   lovebuglenaposted 11 years ago

   When you publish a hub one of the way traffic is driven to your hub is by featuring your hub in other hubs written by others... Maybe that is what happened. Maybe your hub was featured in someone else's hub and that is why this is happening...

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      aHappierLifeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks guys, thanks Lovebuglena,
      No, that is the strange thing, my hub was not in that hub that was listed, my first 3 lines of my new hub, were appearing in the listing on Google, of this other hub,
      but when I click on that listing, my words or my hub content does not appear at all in that hub that came up in the search, that is why i think is weird! So my content is coming up in the search under a totally different hub that is not mine! But only in the Google search result page, not for real, because when I click, it is not there anymore
      
      I wanted to know if someone can explain what is the "noindex tag'  that seems to be added to our new hubs, and it seems, like Izzy was mentioning above, is one of the reasons why it takes time for our hubs to be indexed. Who adds this "noindex tag" on our new hubs?
      Is there a way for us to remove it?
      I trying to understand what this implies, thanks all again
      AL

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   LucidDreamsposted 11 years ago

   aHappierlife
   I have found the same problem while doing Google searches. Seems as if something is wrong in the way Google is indexing Hubpages, or the way Hubpages robot txt is telling it to. Either way something is amiss and you are not the onlye one being affected by these strange search results. Hopfully something will be fixed!

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      aHappierLifeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      LucidDreams
      Have you tried to report this tech issues to the HP Pages team yet?
      
      yes, I think you are right, I think too my new hub has been indexed, but in a a wrong way, it still keeps on coming up under someone else's hub, it is like another hub is using my content to get listed.
      If you hear more news about it, please let me know
      Thanks
      A

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