Panda and Indexing Changes
I too have received increases, and I have been very pleased.
The blue arrows of death!! All my hubs are weeping
- summerberrieposted 11 years ago
0Well Glenn, for what it is worth I have had Google Authorship for many months now, yet my traffic has still plummeted so I am not convinced this is a factor I have to say.
Thanks for the thanks Nate
You're very welcome Nate. Glad it helped.
Glad it all helped
Good news, glad the link helped
My traffic and earnings are looking very bleak right now. I will give it a few months, but if things don't start to look vastly improved (or at least heading back to the good income and views I always used to get) I will have to begin looking at moving certain articles that had previously performed well here, elsewhere. I am already seriously fed up of all the massive changes that have been made (what appears to be every other week) on HP, and now it seems likely it was all based on guesswork anyway which hasn't paid off. Right now (without giving actual figures) I have lost about a third of my income from here just in the last month or two (which used to be enough to give me a decent three figure sum each month). Over the last couple of years the percentage of income and views I have lost has been far higher still but I stuck it out here regardless. What used to be over 10,400 views a day across my hubs is now around 2000 (a serious drop by anyone's standards).
I hate to be pessimistic, but after 5 years of ups and downs here I can't help feeling that things aren't going to get much better, and I am not really convinced HP will still be around in another year or so (unless it is sold on as a going concern which is always a possibility, but one that might involve major changes being implemented for everyone with content here).
I would love to be wrong and things to change, but I just can't see it happening just because so many of us want it to. At the end of the day Google will make or break us (for the most part) no matter what changes are made here.
Rant overI agree, TimeTraveler2, we need a little positivity!
I personally feel that Google do not have it in for HP, as many of my hubs are in the top of search results, beating Wikihow, about.com and eHow. My traffic is going fairly well, it just isn't as easy to get a lot of traffic. I think this site is on the up.Yes, but it takes several years for traffic to build and for articles to mature. I see you currenty have about 119 hubs, whereas I have 280, many of which have been published 4-5 years. If you had joined when I did and written the same amount of hubs there is a good possibility you would have been getting a similar amount of traffic (depending on the nature of the topics you wrote about).
If they are making progress I am wondering why so many are having problems with dramtically falling traffic. Even Quantcast makes pretty dismal viewing right now.
Well in time you may still get the same numbers as I have now, but I don't think many people at all (unless they have an astronomical amount of hubs) will ever see the 10400 a day figures I used to see. Thing is you say you would be 'thrilled to death to have the numbers mentioned above", and I assume you mean the 2000 that I am saying are what I now get. I honestly don't believe you would be so thrilled if you had previously had views for roughly the same hubs be in the region of 10000 a day and earning you a nice part time income, only to watch it gradually wither away over the next couple of years until the income coming in was a pittance compared to what it used to be. As it has pretty much steadily gone downhill for the two years in spite of all sorts of changes being made here, I am not expecting it to suddenly decide to start to rise again (apart from a small amount at the end of the summer when people come back indoors from the sunshine). I hope to be proven wrong though
Just checked my views for today and they are about 600 less than they would be on any other Tuesday. Right now they are showing more like the figures I might expect to see on a bad Friday or Saturday
This is off topic so apologies to the OP
Offer to do a guest blog on sites with similar themes to the groups you write in the most. Make sure the sites you write on are at least PR3 and that they will offer you a link back to your profile here on HP. Most will allow 2 links, so make one a URL link to your profile and one a contextual anchor link to a similar hub. Do this once a week and you will gradually build links and grow your reputation.
Make sure that all of your hubs are grouped properly. You will want at least 15 hubs per group that you use, this will show a bit of expertise in a niche... the more the better and if you have fewer than 15 in a group then this will give you ammo and reason to create more hubs.
Go back to each hub and make sure you are targeting keywords that have decent search volume and little competition. For me that means the main keyword should have at least 1000 monthly searches (Global if you are using the HP Ad program, and Local if you are more concerned with Adsense) then check if that term has less than 500,000 competing pages. This is my benchmark, the fewer competing pages the better but I have gone as high as 2 million.
Your main keyword phrase should be in your Title (not so much worry in your URL anymore), your summary, your first sub-heading, and your first paragraph. Then you will want to use variants and related keyword phrases in your remaining sub-headings and capsule headings.
If you are not targeting keywords that have search volume then don't expect to get anything other than local HP traffic.
Hi livewithrichard, I looked mine up, 50 out of 50 hubs listed. So this is a good thing? Not completing understanding, no need to explain again. All I know is traffic is up and all hubs are featured and indexed by Google. If I jinxed myself, I'm coming back here for you.
- I'm not noticing the indexing as a problem for newer hubbers (those that started after the subdomain switch.) Those of us that were here before the switch had a different indexing structure. After the switch, our url's were redirected to meet our new sub structure but many of our hubs had already been indexed through the old structure and didn't change it to the new structure presumably because it already existed. All of a sudden, most of the hubs that were indexed the old way are now indexed the proper way, which is why we are seeing a drop in traffic. Newer hubbers that already had their hubs indexed the proper way are having a different experience, which is good. Their traffic is unaffected or going up. Those newer hubbers that are having a negative experience will just have to ride it out until we can determine what this new update was targeting. Anyway... I'll be here.
I agree with this. Particularly the sentence, "We don't have control of the structure of the HP site as individual hubbers and in some circumstances, like this one I suspect, we have limited power to improve things."
Right now is a time to sit tight and wait for Google to finish rolling out the latest Panda update as nothing can be accurately analysed with that going on. We also need to wait to see how those hubs that are being indexed differently perform in the SERP's over the next few months.
When Panda has hit HP before the effect has been like Google hitting a "reset" button. Some Hubs/Subs behave in the SERP's almost as if they are newly published and need to prove themselves again. I can see signs of that right now.
IMO the discussion about PR is a red herring.
@Nate - you're welcome
Thanks for the update. Hopefully HP can find a way to resolve this, now that you seem to be homing in on what the problem is.
I checked a hub at random. Yep, you're indexed.
I also found a typo. "I probably hadn't hear of them. "
Think Whitney...
- Beth37posted 11 years ago0
You are indexed and you're not banned, so may be you're just not ranked yet (with Google, obviously - here we all rank you very highly
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- excellasysposted 11 years ago0
- delleaposted 11 years ago0
That news "bug"* has nothing to do with Hubpages traffic. It's specifically a problem with Google News Search, which is news-sources-only (AP, BBC, CNN and so on) rather than a general web search. Go to Google, click on the "News" tab at top, and you'll be taken to a special dedicated portal that combs major online newspapers. Hubpages hubs don't normally show up there.
Nonetheless, that article piqued my interest when I spotted it this morning. I'm shocked that G's news portal has a loophole that was closed on the main websearch page long ago (tricking Google into thinking an article is more current than it is by republishing).
*USA Today is being naughty naughty. I predict that loophole will quietly disappear within the week.
Kudos on reading SearchEngineLand, however! I've learned a ton by following it regularly, although just like any site, you gotta take some of it with a grain of salt. (Danny Sullivan, however, is pure gold.)
HI PDH
My understanding is that pages written to advertise products or services should have outgoing promotional links nofollowed.Thanks Susana S. Seems Panda update is always mean to UGC sites
FWIW, my traffic has been up from Google about 150 percent. I'm hoping it stays this way, but time will tell.
I do not have authorship.What a mess!
Well I guess not all Pandas are cute and cuddly!
I have about 3 hubs that are doing well, and the other 97 are falling off a cliff. Surely there must be a bounce back soon?
Not holding my breath
Its probably far too late to go back, but imagine what HP traffic would be like if the subdomains were sunk and we all re-joined the mother ship. There is certainly good evidence that the old pages tied to the host URL did better than when they were transferred to the subdomain. It seems Google counts the taint for the bad stuff across the entire site but only considers 'authority' vis the subdomains. Time will tell I guess. The drop in my 3-day average CPM is devastating.
Not really.
Low traffic and low blood sugar, bad.
Good traffic and good blood sugar, good.
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