Will The Real Prophet Please Stand Up

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   marinealways24posted 14 years ago

   I seem to notice there are a lot who believe they are prophets. If you believe you are a prophet, how and why do you think you are a prophet? All of the claimed prophets I have seen continually contradict themselves.
   
   Will the real prophet please stand up?

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      Alessia Amnesiaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Are you looking to join the religion Alessiatarianism? All you have to do is give me all your money and property and come live on my compound, which has not yet been bought. I can save you from eternal damnation.
      
      

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      Paul Wingertposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If God had something really importantant to say, why would He trust a single person to carry out His divine message. Why doesn't He simply speak to everyone at once! By doing this, God can save a bunch of time and there would be less chance of a human screwing it up.

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         skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         1) Religious partiality of god
         2) God is busy during recession taking care of people, so he sent prophets in that time
         3) God is not advanced enough for global video conference,so please understand his position.
         4) Verizon and NETZero plans are costly so he might save time on webinar but can't reach all people. So technology can't reach all species in this planet.

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   marinealways24posted 14 years ago

   Prophet Fever?

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   Maybe I'm a prophet and I don't know.
   For how can you know you're a prophet ?

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I think you have to be absolute in faith that you are favored as a messenger of God to deliver truth? I also think it requires meditation to know that "God is Light" as some famous hubpage prophets have claimed. Not mentioning any names.
      I also think you have to believe you are favored by God to be the wisest of the wise.

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         AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         If a prophet doesn't make sense, he or she should be chucked (barred from using the "name", or title, or whatever it is). The Buddha is said to have warned people not to trust anything any teacher says, including himself, but to use their own rational faculties to decide.

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   Then only the insane  can think he/she is a prophet.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      lol You may be right. But then again, I think we all have a touch of insanity. Maybe the key is to balance it. Maybe it will make someone insane trying to balance it. lol
      I don't know if my definitions are right for prophet.

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   thisisoliposted 14 years ago

   Well you either believe in the first prophet, and you are Jewish, the Second Prophet, in which case you are Christian, the third Prophet, in which case you are muslim, or the fourth prophet, in which case you are from the church of Latterday saints.
   
   I think that just about covers it.
   
   Most other people believe in reality, which is slightly more to my own tastes.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      lol But here is the catch. Those that believe in those prophets are continually looking for a prophet to return. This in return gives opportunity for everyone to claim they are prophets and have people believe them.

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   The Ropeposted 14 years ago

   Since dictionary.com defines "prophet" as ...
   
   1.     a person who speaks for God or a deity, or by divine   
          inspiration.
   2. a.  a person chosen to speak for God and to guide the people
          of Israel
      b.  one of the Major or Minor Prophets.
      c.  one of a band of ecstatic visionaries claiming divine   
          inspiration and, according to popular belief, possessing
          magical powers.
       d. a person who practices divination.
   
   3.     one of a class of persons in the early church, next in 
          order after the apostles, recognized as inspired to
          utter special revelations and predictions. 1 Cor. 12:28.
   
   4.     the Prophet, Muhammad, the founder of Islam.
   
   5.      a person regarded as, or claiming to be, an inspired 
           teacher or leader.
   
   6.      a person who foretells or predicts what is to come: a 
           weather prophet; prophets of doom. 
   
   7.      a spokesperson of some doctrine, cause, or movement.
   
   Are you referring to only 1-4 or are you including 5 - 7?  Because I believe everyone has the potential to be a prophet if the whole defination is considered.
   
   
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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'll take 5 and 7 if you don't mind. However, you can leave the "GOD" concept on the side of the road.
      
      I prefer Life knowledge and wisdom, which leads to positive self-interest, on to self-growth and ends at love and spirituatlity.
      
      Just in case, I haven't made myself clear in the past.

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         The Ropeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         :   Cag - I've been reading your work ever since I got started here.  I'd definately refer to you as a prophet of the 5 & 7 type!  Cheers!

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I think both the religious prophets and the nostradamus types are bogus.
      
      Both types seem to like leaving many things open to interpretation. If they didn't leave everything so open to interpretation and described with clear detail, there should be little to no debate over whether or not things are true.

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   Jeramiposted 14 years ago

   The world does not need more prophets!! 
        The world does not need more interpretations of scripture.
   
        The world needs Teachers that can read scripture for what is actually written. 
        When we read a novel we do not start reading in the middle,jumping back and forth until we have read every page.
        Why do we do this when trying to understand the Scripture??

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It might have something to do with those who originally began religion, so as to entice people by mysteries that need solving, and make the "leap" of faith, to assume it is true without factual truth.

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      If the scripture didn't leave so much open to "interpretation" it wouldn't take "prophets" to interpret it.

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         Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            The longest and most detailed prophesy was delivered by Daniel.
         I think that if we read this book and understand it to say what is written without attempting to interpret it; There would not be any confusion.

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            marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            lol, Alright, List some of your favorite passages by Daniel and I will likely show the parts it leaves open to interpretation. If it didn't leave parts open to interpretation, it wouldn't need to be interpreted. Does what I wrote just now need to be interpreted right now by anyone other than you?

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               Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Lets begin with Chapter two... 
               Beginning in 506 BC ..there will be four consecutive kingdoms.
                  Chapter 7...(559 BC)  These same four kingdoms are again described and Gabriel interprets the meaning.
                  Chapter 8 ... (556 BC)  The second and third kingdom is identified by Gabriel as being Persia and Greece. Greece breaks up into four smaller kingdoms and the fourth kingdom will rise up out of one of these four.
               
                  And yet people interpret this fourth kingdom to be yet in our future????   The "Little Horn" described is then interpreted by man to be the Antichrist yet to come in our future.
               
                  It is clearly written that these prophesy were to be fulfilled during the time of these four kingdoms.
                  Babylon, Persia, Greece and The Roman Empire.
               
                  Read the book void of man's interpretations and it is a simple story to understand. When the book of Daniel is understood without interpretation the mystery will be removed.

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                  getitriteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Was the book of Daniel actually the words of God?  That is the real mystery!

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                     Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                         All that I can say is that if this is not a message from God
                     then what can we say "IS" the word of God.  If believers do not believe this book what is the basis of believing any of them? If we dismiss this ..We night as well dismiss it all.
                        I believe that false interpretation of this Book to be at the center of our confusion and division.

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                        getitriteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        I agree with you, this book, along with Genesis thru Revelations should be dismissed. Why would a wise God use puzzling nonsense to "guide" his followers.  These are not the words of God, but are the sensational delusions of madmen calling themselves "prophets!"

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                           Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                               I think that you have miss understood what I am saying.  The book is not the problem.  It is mans compulsion to "INTERPRET" those things that are written. They have already been interpretated by Gabriel..  They mean exactly what they say. And are not hard to understand.

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                              Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              The book is the problem, not man's interpretation.
                              
                              It's not written properly for complete understanding, because if it was, as Marinealways24 has already pointed out, there would be nothing for interpretation.

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                                 Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                     The dog bites it's tail caus it itches and it itches caus it already bites tail ???
                                     What part of do not interpretate Gabriels interpretation is hard to understand.   
                                   If I do not understand algebra should I interpretate it so that I can think that I am smart enough to understand some of it. I could say that if it were written properly we would all understand how it works.
                                     If we do not understand and can admit it, this will be the beginning of learning.

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                                    Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    The "WHY" question is always subjective to interpretation. It is unavoidable.
                                    
                                    Did you not understand what I said the first time I said it. It is ALL out of context and has been done on purpose.
                                    
                                    Are you to interpret math? No, it's established among society as fact.
                                    
                                    You could but you would be wrong.

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                                 Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    I do not understand what you are talking about?
                                    What part of the book of Daniel is hard to understand as written?
                                   What part of these prophesy requires interpretation that Gabriel did not interpret? 
                                    The only difficult part is in trying to make this message fit within interpretations of man regarding verses of scripture that is written at least 600 years later. 
                                    If a prophet were to show up today, his message would have to conform to those messages from God that were received first.
                                     The same is true concerning those things that the disciples say has to conform to those things that came before them. 
                                     We do not rewrite the old to conform to the new.
                                     Daniel is simple to understand when we want to understand it as written. And then we add to this understanding those things that is added later.

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                                    Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                    Read these words and do not interpretate any of it- THE WORDS IN THE SCRIPTURES ARE ALREADY OUT OF CONTEXT!
                                    
                                    If you do not know what that means, then I suggest you find out.
                                    
                                    IT'S OUT OF CONTEXT!!
                                    
                                    IT'S OUT OF CONTEXT!

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                                       Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                           YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND !!   I get it
                                           YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND   
                                         Therefore you think no one else can.
                                           You do not understand so you have to make up some excuse.
                                          
                                          Everything that you do not or do not want to understand is not out of context.

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                                          Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                          You actually don't get it. It is not a matter whether or not I can understand it.  It is open for interpretation, that means there is something LEFT OUT so interpretation is required.
                                          
                                          How foolish can you be? Don't you know what "out of context" means.
                                          
                                          That isn't my decision, it's FACT. Get it in your head. It has nothing to do with me whatsoever. So, don't make it personal, because it's not.
                                          
                                          I've studied religion for close to 30 YEARS and you're trying to sit there and tell me I don't understand it.
                                          
                                          Get a life.

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                                             Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                When I read the book of Daniel I understand it.
                                                It is a very simple read, in and of itself.
                                                I am sorry that you find it out of context.

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                                                Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                

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                                                Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                                   I have no problem understanding why you think that the Book of Daniel is a mystery.
                                                    I do have difficulty knowing that believers can not read this book; understanding it to be saying exactly as written.
                                                    Understanding that it describes events that happen between 603 and 538 BC. It records Gabriel's interpretation of these visions, we should know that they need no further interpretation.
                                                     Then approx 590 years later a couple of Jesus's disciples write a few letters and Paul writes a few more letters that due to mans interpretations of what is written in these letters, we must totally discount the meaning of prophesy as stated by Daniel.
                                                      This is the source of my confusion.

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                                             SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                                             You can study about George Washington for your whole life and still not know him. The human body has been studied for centuries and still no one knows much about it. Until you actually meet Jesus, you will not be able to understand.

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                  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  What is the importance of kingdoms of Greece? Where is the prediction that said jets would hit the twin towers on 9/11?
                  Why did Gabriel have to interpret it? Why couldn't the reader read it without Gabriel?
                  
                  The little horn? Why didn't they use he word Antichrist if thats what they meant? Why leave "little horn" open to interpretation?
                  
                  Again, if things weren't left open to interpretation, they wouldn't need to be interpreted.

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   torimariposted 14 years ago

   *stands up* Yes, it's true. Kneel now.

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      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      

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      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What is your prediction of 2012? lol

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         muslima61posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         nothing more than a film to make megabucks from the general public

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   Cagsilposted 14 years ago

   It would help to know that the scriptures themselves are out of context, therefore any reading of them is interpretation.
   
   In many scriptures, words were purposely left out, so as to lead a person to make "leap of faith", simply based on the words written.

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    Denno66posted 14 years ago

    Okay. I'll stand up; but only for a minute, I'm busy planning last-minute second-coming stuff.

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       marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       lol That sheep doesn't look right. Where is the happy sheep?

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          Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          He is happy; almost orgasmic, really.

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             tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             that's how you look before an orgasm ??
             
             Mmmmm......
             (closing the door, and walking away)
             
             

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                Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Or tripping on 'Shrooms, I don't recall clearly.

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                   tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   
                   (Opening the door and peeping )
                   
                   Do you have some ?
                   

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                      Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                      Always have a heap out back.

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             marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

             He looks more demonic.

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                Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                He does look a bit possessed, huh? Yikes!

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                   marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   Yes, he has some negative energy. lol

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       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Don't forget to preach about me. Remember you're one of my priests!
       

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          Denno66posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          You're in My Book of Favs, no worries.

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    (Q)posted 14 years ago

    Prophets = Profits

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    thisisoliposted 14 years ago

    Thirty years studying a single form of psychological delusion seems a bit insane to me

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       SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Psychology itself is a delusion.

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          Mishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I think I can agree to that. A rare moment!

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             SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Extremely rare.

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    mikelongposted 14 years ago

    I'm more like that guy standing on his soapbox on a busy metropolitan street with his big "IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!" sign and an aluminum-foil hat......not to be confused with a prophet...

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