believers and skeptics alike,... faith or belief system?

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   stclairjackposted 13 years ago

   just wondering,... do the skeptics have a problem wih a christian who adhears to a particular religion as a "belief system" knowing full well that the basis for christianity is bunk,.. but the history and beauty and even the romance of it are appealing enough to draw.
   
   if i'm intelectualy honest enough to admit its bunk,... but valuabe bunk,...can the skeptics swallow that?
   
   if i honor the system and refrain from tearing it own for the sake of true believers,... will the faithfull question my faith?
   
   dumb concept i know,.... but i'm bored today.
   
   and faith oviously has no connection to spelling prowess

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      Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Are you trying to please everybody?
      Can't be done without losing your own integrity.
      And watering down the Truth does everyone an injustice.
      It's not about romance and beauty or even history.  It's about Truth.

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         Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         If it was about TRUTH then it would be universally recognized by every person on the planet.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Really?   Then why doesn't everyone recognize the "truth" of your "belief system"?  hmmm....?

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               Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I don't have a belief system. What a surprise?
               
               
               Truth is just like wisdom. It's recognized when seen.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  No belief system?
                  Then, what do you call it?  ...Faith?

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                     Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     I have faith in myself and my fellow humans. Other than that, it's a complete waste of time.

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                        Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        How can you have faith in yourself or other humans?
                        Did we create the earth?
                        Are we all-powerful and omniscient?
                        
                        
                        Humans are fragile, fallen, fallible.   We can (and often do) get sick (mentally or physically).  We have limits to what we can do even if we're healthy.  What faith can you place in yourself or other humans?

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                           Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Easy. I understand my own life, which provided me the ability to love myself, which bestowed me faith in my ability. I have faith in other humans because I understand to bring peace I must.
                           I didn't say we did. Nor does it matter.
                           In a manner of speaking, you should be in understanding your own life. Yes!
                           Yeah so what.
                           So what again.
                           Again, so what.
                           Through love, I place faith in humans that the average joe schmo isn't going to cause the destruction of the world. Only the blatant ignorant will do that and that isn't the average joe schmo....it's most likely some of the more intelligent idiots running agendas by some guise. Like religious leaders and political leaders do on a daily basis.

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                              Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              You're worried about some man or men causing the destruction of the world?
                              Would it ease your mind if I told you that God's the one in control of the fate of the world?     Guess not.....

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                                 Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 Not so much the world itself, even though enough Nuclear Weapons set off could in fact do that, but more about the extinction of the human species should be a worry for everyone.
                                 My mind is at ease. That doesn't mean insight cannot be seen. And, as for your imaginary god? Sorry, it's just that imaginary.

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                     stclairjackposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     cags doesnt have a belief system in the traditonal sense,.... just because you or anyone else dont recognise it,... doesnt make it less than worthy.... it just means that might have ad an independant thought, god forbid. (pun intended) ha!

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               A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Science is not a belief system, it is a method for understanding how our world works. It is a system that is recognized by everyone on the planet as such. It offers truth of reality, obviously.
               
               You will find that anything of a scientific nature will be experienced by observation by anyone who comes in contact with it, and they will all agree what they observe, obviously.

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      Stevennix2001posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think the reality is that nobody truly knows about the origins of mankind, as history can be rewritten, and it's often written by the winners. The simple matter is that people will always have their own point of views on events; hence why it's almost impossible for any singular version of the truth to be attained at this point.

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   stclairjackposted 13 years ago

   i supose what i'm trying to say is that a great many of us go through the motions,.. and do so willingly,... joyfully,... i can apreciate my faith (belief system) on many levels,... without having to swallow every it blindly,.... i love my faith,... i do not love it blindly.

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      stclairjackposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      perhaps it is more honest for me to say that i do indeed love my belief system,.... but not so much an unknown god.
      
      i love my fellow man on the whole, if not individualy.
      
      i love many aspects of my chosen religion....
      
      some days,... i treat it like joiing the lodge.

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   Wilfionposted 13 years ago

   I don't believe any religion has any ultimate truth.  They are all manmade attempts at understanding ourselves and the universe we find ourselves in.  However, as a European, whose cultural heritage is Christian, I do enjoy the culture which comes with it.  I love to visit the ancient cathedrals with their stained glass and beautiful architecture, and to listen to the choirs singing their hymns of praise. Most of my favourite pieces of music are Christian and I love Christmas.  So whilst I don't believe in the God, all of these works of art or festivals were created for, it would be foolish to deny their beauty.

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      stclairjackposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      exactly,.... you got it!
      
      and equaly foolish to discount all the possitives that christianity has brought to mankind because some cannot ballance the negatives.
      
      so nice to know that some one,... albeit across the pond got it!

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   Emile Rposted 13 years ago

   Yes you can. And good for you.  You try to embrace the beauty and refuse to buy into the insanity. Religion doesn't get any better than that.

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