I have indeed recieved spam from a Nigerian.I honestly assumed that saying it was from Nigeria was part of the scam....I havent read your hub yet, and I am sorry to say I have no idea what 419 is. Im going to read it now.
I don't think all Nigerian's are Fraudsters. There are some lovely, honest, genuine Nigerians who have hearts of Gold. But sadly, I'm sorry to say, there are still some Fraudsters in Nigeria and in the UK who are tainting the Country with a bad brush. Where do we start? In the UK we have Nigerians Using fake passports, getting into relationships with women only to leave them once they've got citizenship, buying stuff from catalogues and taking them out of the country and never paying, stealing from work, Having more than one council house and renting it out. I could write a Hub, but like I wrote in the beginning there are some honest Nigerians.
So, not all Nigerians are Fraudsters. Sorry I went on a bit Fiery x (I've had some nasty experiences with them)
I think your countrymen have let themselves down. Not a lot of credibility anymore with BS Scams which have been coming from them for 3 decades that I know of. Perhaps that's the problem guys like yourself face; in attempting to have a voice. For a resource rich country; things there seem pretty screwed up. But that's your home... What do You do to clean it up? I live in Bumble Town..on the othe side of the world.. we have our own forms of 'corruption' here.
in the town where we live... Nigerians have moved in big time... I work with the children at school and get to know the parents.... They are delighted to be away from Nigeria and what they call their corrupt government..... Though Nigerians have a very bad profile, the ones I work with are hard working, and sad that people view all Nigerians in the same light..... The kids I teach crafts to are truly beautiful people..... Are you trustworthy??????
Most Nigerians are like that. Somehow we have been let down by the leadership of the country over the years and somehow a few unscrupulous elements have earned the nation that stereotype. But come to think of it South Africa with her highest rape statistics is not getting much negative publicity, and Switzerland that receives looted money in her banks is not getting any negative publicity at all. Maybe there is more to this stereotype than meets the eye?
Of course there's a lot more to it than meets the eye. Statistics show that one not of every four South African man has committed rape. Can you even begin to fathom that? Or Switzerland whose half earnings are from laundered money, and yet they're rated 7th most incorrupt nation. Its outrageous. I wrote a hub on this.
Yeah it's a stereotype - Nigerian = drug dealing scammer and American = baseball loving hotdog eating bigmouth, and Australian = surfing sheep-shagging convict. Those are just generalisations and stereotypes and the actual people you meet from those countries aren't like that. Some Americans are vegetarians.
Mention New Zealand ...yippeeeee...oh say it again Used too, and so over sheep jokes (they really need to come up with some new ones) But ok heres the facts ( Family in the frozen export side of things) sorry OZ no longer any pulse) hehe anyway moving right along Australia actually export more sheep per capita than NZ.
I've only ever met 1 Nigerian and he was a real genius and I learned a lot from him, however I have also had Nigerian's try to scam me...but I think that is just a byproduct and I would never judge an entire country by a few bad experiences.
Fierycj, your country is the best country in the world, as far as you should be concerned. But then when your former president tell us you are generating more foreign currency from scams than you are generating with oil, we get concerned.
Control poverty by reducing the sizes of familes and that 1% of your people with that problem will stop doing it.
if by former president you mean Obasanjo or even all the formers as a matter of fact, then thats hogwash. They all have offshore accounts in frigging Switzerland. Now thats a country that makes half its wealth from developing nations laundering money. But who's calling them one of the most corrupt. No one. As a matter of fact, they're among the top 10 most incorrupt nation. You wanna tell me the Swiss Banks dont know they're receiving laundered money? Yeah right. I mean we're talking billions of dollars here!
No, I don't think all are Nigerians are fraudsters. It is not right to judge everyone as bad based on the actions of a few. Everyday I receive a couple of scam mails and it straight away goes to trash or report.
Back to the age old question. How do you tell the good and the bad from afar? The "scammer" reputation that Nigerians suffer from is very damaging. The Nigerian communities globally have to tackle this issue and be seen to do something about it. No one else is going to deal with this for them.
I hate politics though my family once were political,but i want to enter into politics just to mend the bad reputations of my country.Forget what people might say here,deep down your hearts,you see all Nigerians as scammers,including me,despite my honest efforts to address this scandal.Fiercj,we can't change this bad reputation just here,we need to work with the youths,govt. officials in our country,if you care,contact me.
...and you guys must try and help us by reporting or arresting any Nigerian govt. official who tries to bank huge amount of funds in your banks,stop encouraging them by accepting to transfer funds for them.If the world weren't unjust,nations like Switz,Scot,UK etc should be tagged corrupt for keeping embezzled funds from developing nations in their banks.In my place,whoever that buys a stolen thing gets the highest punishment because without him,such person would not steal.This must be addressed.
Just so you know I do not spend my day thinking of Nigerians and scammers, and just keep in mind it takes two to tango. Yes those scams are appauling, but anyone falling for the scam should be held accountable for their actions.
From the time I was young my mom taught me to be skeptical of strangers, and I would never fall for an email telling me someone I did not know from a foreign land had a sum of money to send me- just so long as I sent money upfront. Just keep in mind people love to have a scapegoat, a person or a group they can call the bad guy, and in many ways that is directed towards the Nigerian email scams.
People who are silly enough to send the money to these people should also need to be held accountable. I am not saying these scams are nothing, but often people just love to have a bad guy you know.
I thank you all for the good comments about Nigeria,we are working hard to rebrand and reorient our nation,please try and assist us in any way you can,we do appreciate you all,may the Almighty God bless you all?
Sweetiepie,you are 100% correct,it takes two to tango,where are the others?And in some cases these guys do succeed in transfering my country's fund to their national banks,what does transparency international,ICC,etc do about it, nothing? Both Nigerian scammers and their victims need to be punished for attempting to commit crime,read my hubs on fraud and scam.
I haven't read this thread all the way through, but I wanted to comment on something:
As a student of anthropology, I have learned not to be "ethnocentric." I look at all people as genuinely equal with regard to themselves and their culture. I don't have to like someone's culture to not think that it is equal to my own.
However, during a time when I had a lot of regular contact with large groups of Nigerian tourists (living in Cornwall at the time), I found the groups to be incredibly pervasive, rude and, sorry to say, exceptionally racist. I avoided them whenever I could and am ashamed to say that in some cases learned to avoid all black people in the summer.
Then I came home to the United States, met my husband and we got on with our lives. We lived, for some time, in a community made up largely of immigrants. The majority of the community was Hispanic but there were also a large number of Caribbean and African immigrants in the complex as well. As I got to know some of these families, asked them where they were from (love those gorgeous African accents!) and discovered they were from Nigeria, I found myself confused, and more than that, curious.
I discovered the African *immigrants* to be exceptionally polite, helpful and kind people, the same as I do most groups of immigrant populations.
I haven't had a scam e-mail from Nigeria in several... SEVERAL years. I don't think that Nigerians are all scammers. I believe that it is essentially wrong to judge an entire race by the actions of a few. Is the country corrupt? Probably. Africa has its issues. But that doesn't make its PEOPLE corrupt.
I'm an American who prefers to not be judged by the actions of our president. CJ, until you show me differently I won't judge you based on the actions of a minority of the citizens of your homeland.
Maybe they'll stop sending scam emails when folks stop falling for it and giving their life savings. I saw some news report that some Doctor sent a few hundred thousand US dollars to a Nigerian "Prince". Multiply that with a few other suckers and Nigeria's got themselves a thriving industry.
Spam filters do a good job of clearing out the scam messages, which I have received from all around the world. Even at the local mall there are people that will try to pull a scam by asking you to give them fifty dollars for their valuable ring. One man at a Greyhound station once showed me a sparkly ring, and told me I could pay him a hundred dollars for it because later I could pawn it for a higher price. Scams are everywhere, but you have to be savvy enough to know not to fall for these. Whenever a stranger asks for money or personal info I would say delete that email, or do not talk to that person.
I work on a US based freelance site and a Nigerian guy asked, in the forums, why he could not open an account. It transpired that Nigeria was on the 'Banned List.'
A real shame for the guy - he was intelligent, articulate and polite, but was prevented from earning an honest living. Felt really sorry for him, because I am sure that the vast majority of Nigerians are honest and hardworking, just like anybody else.
Here you come, this is exactly the Darkest side of it all, my countrymen are not allowed to open a paypal account, like the one i am using now was opened from China by a relation,but its hurtful. This is unfair,a clear indication that they believe all Nigerians are fraudsters,wrong generalization or fallacy.Because a doctor you know flirts,therefore all doctors are flirts;fallacy of generalization.Please if you know any paypal official,tell him or her to please stop punishing innocent Nigerians because of scandalous acts from a few group.
Innocent and decent Nigerians are crying out against this everyday but the other people are not helping matters at all,by accepting to involve in false business transaction,is it fair? But at the end, only the scammer gets punished why? If both parties are punished,the rate of this scandal would reduce drastically.
No, I don't think all Nigerians are fraudsters. That doesn't make logical sense. There are honest people everywhere, this is just another case of a "few bad apples". There are fraudsters everywhere too. What I think is sad is that the fraudsters believe that they are believable. Its a shame that they are casting a shadow on their own country. Short-sighted as well as stupid.
For instance,if i send you a message telling you that i'm the accountant general of my country's oil firm,and i request that you assist me in transfering an overdrafted fund from my firm's account to your personal account so that we can share it out later on,to avoid this overdrafted fund from going back into my government's account,and you accept,and at the end you get scammed or screwd,please who should be punished? Is it me alone or both of us?
When my dad was a govt. official,there were several cases of some corrupt officials transfering huge funds abroad through the help of some western guys,and it is still on,so this is why these guys always agree to these scams,the only solution is for the western nations to corperate with us by enacting strict laws to punish any of their citizen or bank that engage in the transfer of fund from developing nations and any one who falls prey to any sort of international scam,you will see that things will change for better,and then we work harder on our own side by passing death sentence bill on scam or fraud crimes.
I do not belive all Nigerians are corupt. I think people are people, inderviduals make their own choices. Not all the Nigerian scams are run by Nigerians. They just happen to use the country as a tax haven where they can lundar money. Before bringing it back to the westren banking system where its orgins can not be traced back.
When I met some one, I judge them on their own merrits and their own deeds. Not by some tar brush that has been used upon them.
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