Bstiltner77-- Thank you for your reply. However I must correct your understanding of Ephesians 4. You have the given me "the churches of men" teaching of this scripture and not the scriptural meaning. By your addition of the word "as" which is not part of this verse you are trying to make it say something it does not say.
Eph 4:11-13 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
"to be" is not in there in the original either.
These men given to the church are men that are called by God to be "servants of ALL". These are ministries that men do and are NOT titles of positions.
There are only two positions in the new testament church and they require SERVANTHOOD not executive performance. They are Elder (bishop, overseer and elder are the same person) and deacon.,
Look at the greatest apostle that ever lived Brother Paul of Tarsus.
HE NEVER set himself up as over anyone and NEVER even called himself apostle Paul . He always said ie"
Eph 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God,
Gal 1:1-2 Paul, an apostle (not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father who raised Him from the dead), and all the brethren who are with me
Phil 1:1 Paul and Timothy, bondservants of Jesus Christ,
There is no such position as "pastor " in the church of Christ, it is only found in the "churches of men" and those that fill it are virtually always hirelings.
The ONLY titles in the new testament church are "brother" and "sister.
The correct translation of vs 12 is "for the equipping of the sainst for the work of the ministry". The saints are to do the work of the ministry not some man that assumes a non existant title of "pastor.
I have several article pertaining to this on here if you have an interest in the truth of scripture vs the words of men.
I would also suggest that you get a copy of the interlinear bible . A direct translation without the added words of translators that want you to believe their way.
Your last comment is quite offensive to me as I have been studying scripture longer than you have been alive if that is your picture. I believe the scriptures not men. The bible says Christ is the head of man, and He will teach what scripture means if we ask