Evolution theory explaination ( or better)

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   Eng.Mposted 14 years ago

   What is the logical possibility that most ( not all) diseases have certain cures ? ( cures with different efficiency)
   
   the answer might be :
   1-our bodies and the cures were in one entity .
   2-these two elements were separated .
   3-diseases occur to the bodies due to that separation .
   4-diseases effect are reduced when the cure element is found .
   
   *is this some start of philosophical thinking lacking a relative reference ?

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      Ambitionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      *is this some start of philosophical thinking lacking a relative reference ?
      
      exactly, as far as my view goes, i can say as human evolve so the disease causing pathogens and as we already find their cure earlier so, many diseases are still can be cured.
      
      i would go for
      
      4-diseases effect are reduced when the cure element is found .
      
      but really i am lacking a relative reference

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         Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         What is the logical possibility that most ( not all) diseases have certain cures ? ( cures with different efficiency)
         
         this might have happened in the following order: 
         1-our bodies and the cures were in one entity .
         2-these two elements were separated .
         3-diseases occur to the bodies due to that separation .
         4-diseases effect are reduced when the cure element is found .
         
         *is my answer some start of philosophical thinking lacking a relative reference ?
         
         best regards

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            Ambitionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            your order looks good to me.
            
            yes, it is philosophical thinking as there is no significant proof how two entities first in single entity and then separated
            may be environmental factors or pathogens but no certain proof.

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               Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               then evolution theory is not proved in this sector but it could be in another scientific branch using this logic ?
               
               may be ?

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   Colebabieposted 14 years ago

   Maybe I'm not getting you. Can you clarify the question? Is it just why don't all diseases have a cure? Are you looking for a medical answer? Why is this in the religion forum? Or maybe I'm just off the mark completely...

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      Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      *how could the fact that most known diseases have some cures be explained by evolution ?
      
      a question to my small evolutionist side .
      
      *chance?
      
      *can anything in the world be outside of three possibilities:
      1-chance
      2-purposed
      3-mix of both
      
      ?

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   Colebabieposted 14 years ago

   The cure to a disease is not by evolution but by research. Now when a virus or bacteria mutants and a new strain occurs the cure may or may not need to change.

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      Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I got that .. good point
      different interactions with similar or different outcomes .
      
      my concern goes around elements .
      
      is it part of evolutionary processes that most diseases have curing elements on earth for researchers to find ?
      
      furthermore,
      can chance create some plans ?

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         Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Diseases are what evolve. The fact that mold can kill a bacteria is from some form of evolution of the genetics of the two. Why is this in the religion forum again?
         
         And yes chance can form plans. The discovery of penicillin was by chance. A lot of mutations are random and spontaneous so I guess you could say they are by chance.

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            Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            it is in the forum because I am trying to understand evolution theory which is a strong replacement of religions in my life basis .
            it can also be in science or philosophy forum .
            
            I know penicillin was found by chance . was it there as a cure in nature by chance ?
            
            also,
            I asked whether chance may lead to plans not the opposite .
            
            finally,
            you assume there are no good or bad changes in evolution theory ideas . it is only that some elements among unkown uncountable ones are found on earth to interact with worms in different ways .
            regaldlessly , good interactions as we consider are always there .
            
            Evolution theory really gives people different view of analysis .
            Evolution thinking is not about simple genetic and apparent changes.
            it is complex , smart and intelligent .
            
            but it doesn't mean I believe it expalins the origin of life .
            
            thank you for making me look at it form your angle .
            
            Mohammed

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               Ambitionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               there are natural cure too. Don't just concentrate on allopathy. According to other studies earth, air, water and fire can be used to cure the disease and for me there is no disease that is not curable.

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                  Colebabieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  There are diseases that are not curable. Treatable yes, but not curable.

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                     Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     I believe there is no a disease not curable but it is just we don't know many of these cures.
                     
                     it is mostly related to a belief inside me .
                     
                     I can't say so without this belief feeling .
                     
                     otherwise , I would agree with Colebabie if I could totally leave this belief away .
                     
                     
                     
                     
                     or may be I would think further that some diseases may have no cures at all .

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                  Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  good point and really very helpful
                  good resistance comes from not having medicines for simple diseases .
                  
                  thanx

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         Ambitionposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         yes this is evolutionary. just imagine when the first person has just 3 diseases and he got hold on two of them  and almost over third one. So, with time diseases start to evolve so as the person with the cure present in him  and that cure is genetically stored and is still helping us.

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            Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            would you please say it in another way ?

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   Colebabieposted 14 years ago

   Why use disease to study evolution? Why not something else? Start with something simpler first. I didn't assume that evolution can not have negative effects. One can believe that evolution occurs but not believe it is the origin of human life. I can understand that. Denying evolution occurs altogether though is just ignorant. I would suggest looking at the basics of evolution first to understand it, before contemplating life issues.

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      Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      may be u r right
      
      thanx

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