This thread should be put in Political Activism
but mostly it should be put in Biblephobia or Heterophobia or Christianity Haters. If there isn't such a forum, it would be good to make one, just so the Accusers of the brethren have a place to spout their hateful rants instead of cluttering up the religion forums with it.
The bible's stance on homosexuality is not the only reason to boycott the bible. What about demanding the death of adulterers, or people who work on the Sabbath, or children who dishonor their parents, or girls who are not virgins on their wedding day?
And just what compels a person to seek some other form of "spirituality" whenever they have debunked the bible? For some of us there is no need for a replacement.
Hey, stone them to death!!!
Oh no, I don't mean like they did it in the oldies moldy days
I mean worry them to death, get them stone on alcohol and drug for LONG term suffering for their sins
What do you think Brenda?
Why do you try to bait me with your sarcasm when surely you know by now that you'll simply give me the opportunity to tell you about Jesus? Maybe somewhere deep down you really want to hear?
The extreme punishment for sin (aside from murder and major crimes that are still handled legally these days) has been Spiritualized by Jesus's sacrifice. Those of us (actually ALL of us on this earth) who have sinned are now subject to spiritual death in this life and in the afterlife, not to literal stoning. In one way it's easier this way, in another it's not. We're now held to personal responsibility at a deeper level, really. But the easy part is that we can give it all over to Christ if we repent and try to follow Him; we have the opportunity to walk with the One who can do all things, including change our desires and our actions.
Well, many do change from being high on drugs to getting high on Jesus
OR suffer forever by Satan hands or be extremely happy in heaven
Not much time for living in the present or live and let by moderate sharing with other kinds of group.
Oh well, no peace for the wicked
You forgot. God changed his mind.
Jeeebus says so. Hebrews, for one:
“Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.”[c]
And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.
Of course in Matthew 5 he says
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."
But Christians have special ability to read what they want to believe and reinterpret the rest.
The bible is merely another book written by humans. To be ignored or not as one wishes.
The Bible was meant to serve as a teaching tool back in the day and not to be taken literally. The Jews who wrote it don't take it literally and neither does the Catholic Church. Although if you remove all the death threats, the Bible would only be a few pages long.
There are some parables and metaphors and simple examples in it, and a lot of symbolism, but the basic concepts and MOST of the Bible was indeed meant to be taken literally. Beginning with Genesis 1:1.
The Book of Genesis is nothing but metaphors and can be taken several different ways. This goes for all other creation and flood stories.
That is a valid, and probably the predominant, view among Jews. The flood story was almost certainly inspired by the Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh, which predates the Torah, and the elohist creation story (there are 2 which sometimes contradict each other) was also heavily inspired by the Enuma Elish. Our understanding of the creation of the universe and our planet alone says the Genesis creation myth can not be taken literally, and until recently, it never was.
I think they were all inspired by the Upanishads. The Indo-European cultures predate the semetic cultures by 10 to 15,000 years or so, according to the movements of early homonids. Of course there is no way to tell, other than the fact that Indian sanskrit outdates middle eastern written traditions by about 200 years, give or take.
It was meant to be taken litteraly then. If one takes it litteraly now, they might as well commit themselve's. I don't see a problem with the religion it's self, more that it's just out dated. If buddhism and all the others are wrong and invalid, then so is christianity. One cannot say that the others are wrong, without being critical of what they believe is true as well.
You don't really believe that at all, Brenda. It's like you're not really a Biblical literalist, but you play one on HubPages.
You can boycott it all you want it will still be the Bible and unchanged. How come you just don't just practice your free will and allow others to practice theirs. I am completely puzzled by the close mindedness and number of Godless people on this site. If I see a topic I do not care about I usually leave it alone but instead I see a hundred God bashers on the forum making un-educated and stupid comments. If I do not believe in a certain faith I usually do not go there its only when I see someone attacking my faith or asking a question that I care. Contrary to your popular belief most believers do not care if you are an Atheist or a homosexual. I believe everyone is entitled to free will and yes their are many who do not believe this. Sadly attacking one or the other is not going to be a solution. Choice is the only solution and protecting all sanctuaries is what is important. Threatening the sanctuary of others will only give you a war at some point. I know that believing is a long personal journey and I know that most people will never grow up and make it to salvation. I know that your only choice in changing my mind would be to kill me and I am prepared to die before you ever change my mind. I have no desire to condemn others but all I can do is accept the Word and ask why. Perhaps it has a lot to do with saving yourself, leaving selfishness behind and pro-creating. I think its about spiritual maturity and finding out for yourself.
The Atheist know your Bible better than any group including Christians. The reason they know the bible is to protect themselves from Religious people. Being Gay is illegal in 80 predominate religious countries imagine if Christianity was illegal in 80 countries. We are practicing our free will and questioning religious and Christian homophobic , not physically attacking Religion, as Religions dose that all too well in wars with each other
If you knew the Bible you would know it can not be changed and even I study the question why. I believe it has everything to do with Gods plan. I do not however condone attacking anyone's belief in anything. Life is a journey and each individual has the choice to decide their own fate. Forcing someone to believe is a violation of the free will God gave us in the first place. Earth is purgatory and we have to find a way to live in it. We also have to recognize that all people are different and there are many different paths to discover ones own salvation. I would never keep someone from learning or deny them their time on Earth. You were given that time to figure it out for yourself. Most of all I am not the judge on anyone's soul and condemning you does not get you any closer to discovering Gods plan for your life. Attacking the believer however invites others to defend their beliefs and it should. If you read the Bible then you have to decide for yourself what personal relationship and obstacles must be over come within you to mature spiritually. You can not blame God, the Bible or even others in determining such personal growth. This requires great faith in Gods plan and finding the reasons why it is written. The problem with sin is that it always attacks the believer even when he or she simply hides from the World.
If God had a plan, would he really give it to the Christians with their road record.
Pssst. Peter was a rock. Paul a Roman agent. The christians have been purposely led down the primrose path. Take Jesus, as is, and place him next to the vatican...and all you have is a beggar standing next to a magnificent ediface. Tell me something isn't wrong with that picture. Now, consider that there are a billion christians wordwide vying for less than 500,000 heavenly seats. Sounds to me like a lotta disappointed christians on judgement day.
There will be plenty of disappointed Christians and they will get to hang out with the unbelievers. Still I do not judge the faith based on the deceptions of others and wrong street religion.
Why does it matter one little jot to a non-believer what God thinks about anything?
Unless ,of course that it does matter what God says
What does anything you say got anything to do with God? Everything you say has everything to do with people. Its like paying someone with a college degree more money and claiming manual labour is worth less and its their fault they make less. Its like destroying the entire economy on being to greedy at the top and expecting someone who has had everything taken from them because of it and telling them to get a job. Being mad at God because your father died because he was inhaling poison on the job and eating food that is unsafe. People are the root to all that is injustice on this planet and most spend their time furthering their own agendas. We make the greatest mistake when we compare this World to Gods plan. If you our not of this World and will die soon and that is the plan then you have to rediscover the purpose. God does not have the same concerns we do because free will was part of the plan in deciding your own salvation.
I can salvage my own life, whether my personal god/God has anything to do with it is heresay. God won't rescue me from this world, nor will death. What I came from, hnce will I return. That is the way of universal nature...
Claimed by life, returned to dust and recycled just the same. That's how I see it anyhow and to me God is but a brief respite along the way. None of us are truly comfortable in our own skins, so we fabricate all sorts of methods of escape, whether we believe they exist in life or there after.
It must be a sad life knowing you our only manure helping the maggots grow up. Fearing death is one thing but fertilizer, can you not paint a better picture? Honestly, did God screw your life up this bad or was it just you. No one said listen to any man or attend a church to find your answers. Who do you listen to psychiatrist, science, your teacher give me a break. No man on Earth will make up my mind and even if the church worshipped the devil tomorrow I will still stand on my own faith.
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