Please can someone explain to me why, if one decides not to wait 24 hours to put up one's hub, one then has to wait three or four weeks for Google to index. This has absolutely nothing to do with Google, but has everything to do with punitive action from HP.
I am not aware about such a thing.. I published a Hub just a few days back in less than a minute as I had prepared it somewhere else and it was open to Google within 2 days.
Yes, that's exactly right. But I took off the setting that said it had to wait and it absolutely and utterly has NOT being picked up by google and it's more than a week. I can tell because Bing and Yahoo are sending traffic, but Google isn't. It has nothing to do with the article. I'm thinking about deleting it and either placing it elsewhere or just putting it up again, waiting the day, and seeing what happens. If I get no traffic then I have to move it to a content site where obviously Google notices it.
Did you try manually adding it through webmaster tools "Fetch as Google"? That can sometimes get it indexed faster.
Also, google has a disclaimer that just because you submit something to be indexed, doesn't mean it will. That can be really frustrating especially since other search engines are picking it up.
Am I right in thinking that you have changed your profile to show pending or idled hubs?
It's the 'not waiting 24 hour' bit that suggests that.
If that is indeed what has happened, then the googlebot will have visited your hub during the period when it had a noindex tag, and might not be back for ages. Google follows all the links on your profile.
Ideally, you want that new hub hidden. Tell your followers not to share it to social networking sites either. Don't let Google know it is there at all until that damned tag is off.
Then it will get indexed as normal, supposedly.
I say 'supposedly' because it is almost impossible to hide a new hub from Google even when you do all those things.
Mine usually get a visit from the googlebot about 4 hours before the 24 hours are up, and then no matter what I do, I have delayed indexing.
Well, thank you for explaining that. I think someone did before but they didn't explain that if it had the no idex tag then Google wouldn't come back forever. So I'm going to have to delete the hub. I'm not happy. I really find less and less reason to write on HP.
You don't have to delete the hub unless it is topical and not likely to get views until after the period is over.
This whole pending thing has killed hubs on news items, unless you are one of the chosen few who get immediate featuring with no 24 hour wait.
Izzy, it's not only that. It's that my brain doesn't leave things unfinished. Once I start it, I have to have it finished otherwise I don't sleep or relax until it is done. But yes, I have to find another home for news items. I just don't like working this way.
Izzy, it's not only that. It's that my brain doesn't leave things unfinished. Once I start it, I have to have it finished otherwise I don't sleep or relax until it is done. But yes, I have to find another home for news items. I just don't like working this way.
Here is the URL for submitting google after the waiting period is over. I learned it in a similar forum, and it worked for me twice.
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools … tdfQ%3D%3D
IMHO if googlebot comes by and finds a page is noindex it may not be back for some time, unless you ping it
Even if you do ping it, it's liable to say, "Oh, right, I've already visited that page, and it had a noindex tag on it. Therefore, the author explicitly forbade me to index it. Maybe I'll come back in three weeks to see if anything's changed, but in the meantime, I've got the whole rest of internet to crawl."
I've found that once Googlebot has seen a noindex tag, it usually takes several weeks to recrawl a page no matter how much pinging, submission to WMT, or social promotion and backlinking you do.
HP lets us decide whether or not pending hubs show on our profile. But whichever option we choose, the noindex tag is still there. It's a lucky thing that some search engines don't honor the noindex tag like they're supposed to, or are so slow that they don't arrive until after the 24-to-48-hour "pending" phase is finished.
If you do a search for the hub and find it in a search engine then your hub is live. It is being indexed and is available to read. Make sure you have hit the publish button at the top of the screen once you have finished editing your hub. It should go live as soon as you hit publish.
Safiq, that is not happening any more unless you are one of the few people who are being allowing to bypass 'pending'.
Your hub is 'live' but carries a noindex tag for 24 hours so will not be indexed. If the googlebot visits your hub during this period, it reads the noindex tag and leaves, sometimes not returning for weeks.
As a newer here, Even my homepage was not indexed by GG
I with you in the irritation department here. I'm now one entire week into having a hub not indexed by the Googinator. That's just wayyyyy too long to wait, imho. Why not keep it completely unpublished for the pending period and NEVER place that no-index tag on hubs in the first place? I really don't care that my hub is visible via the community venues initially (no offense meant here). It's really starting to get my goat, HP!
What I did was delete two hubs and then republish them. The one hub has got immediate traffic from google; the other I'm still waiting. I'm going to have to delete all my hubs that I didn't want to wait for the pending.
I don't care about HubPage traffic either. However, I do care that people who are sent by search engine traffic see my latest hubs....
Can you explain to me how you can tell if tis indexed or not and what this 24 hour period thing is? I publish hubs and they say pending, then usually around 24hours they say featured. Do i have to do anything to make sure they are not published within 24hours?
What is this no index tag? Is this another change HP has made. What are they trying to do, drive all of the writers away from here?
i can't swear to it because I'm not very interested in computer speak, but it appears to be a signal to the Google Crawer/search engine/whatever not to index the hub. So then, Google doesn't come back for months or years to that particular hub. In other words, one is forced to wait 24 hours.
Is HP tagging these with a no index tag? If so, how do we know it is being done?
Never mind. HP is giving hubs with a no index tag. The ones that have the ZZZZ next to them are the NO INDEX! Well, I see I will be moving hubs, whenever I see the ZZZZ.
I'm trying to find the thread where Paul may have responded to the question about idled hubs being dormant on Google for several weeks. Just wanted to comment here to see if anyone knows which thread that's on? Thanks!
His response to the issue was
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/105644
"One thing we could do that may slow down the initial crawl is to remove ads until it's through the review. Google search and AdSense share some crawling resources. We think ads likely triggers the initial crawl.
For new Hubs, we are seeing most get indexed pretty quickly. There are outliers, but it doesn't seem to be a significant issue."
Thanks, janderson - I could not find the thread -
;-)
One of my new hubs has been sitting for 5 days NOT the 24 hours I thought they were supposed to sit. This is a holiday hub and should be getting more holiday traffic instead of waiting to be indexed until the holidays are over! I don't really understand. The 24 hours was bad enough.
I routinely submit every new hub manually through webmaster tools "Fetch as Google"? This helps hubs get indexed faster, but my worst one took 17 days! despite this. Its a pain, but necessary.
I have FIVE very important anchor hubs that have been pending for about five days also. This is the first time I've had this happen, and it concerns me because many other hubs link to these articles and it will make me look like an idiot when people click on the link and get nothing. This stuff just keeps getting weirder and weirder, that's for sure!
I am confused about all of this stuff with googlebot and getting hubs to come up in google search. I need some help on how to work things like this.
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