A way to filter out hubtivity showing someone using one of those programs that just joins the fan clubs willy nilly? It's annoying. Better yet, outlaw it. It makes that persons membership in your fan club meaningless, as well as make their own fan base meaningless. They can't even be bothered to click on a hub. It's kind of shameless and just wrong.
There is someone on hubpages at this moment who has managed to join 18 fan clubs at exactly the same time - they all show the same time frame of "joined 17 seconds ago" - if this is not using some type of program I'll be a monkey's uncle!
I did that edit on the "fans" as they recommended and since then I don't see jack about people becoming fans of whoever. I also since that one night when it became a subject, I started going through some of my fan list and started getting rid of those fanners who have yet to write a credible hub and who becomes a fan of everyone and their lost cousins. I know they'll never read my junk, so it doesn't matter to me.
You have a variety of options for filtering the hubtivity that you see by editing your viewing preferences.
I know, Relache, but I don't see how to get rid of them without getting rid of other legitimate hubtivity that I want to see? I don't think you can separate them, or am I missing something? So if getting rid of them means me not seeing the hubtivity of others, then that is hardly an acceptable option in this instance. Thanks.
You can turn off all or parts of fanning hubtivity under hubtivity -> edit preferences -> fans.
That's the best you can do.
And just for the record - I don't support you motion to outlaw this. There are enough safeguards in place to punish for excessive fanning, look at robertkelleher
I'm with you on the excessive fan club joining, Chris. I realize that for some people (read: Misha) joining a fan club for every hubber out there is merely a way to be seen by more viewers or what-have-you, but the practice itself demeans the concept of being a FAN. I'm not the fan of any hubbers who I wouldn't read the hubs of, but at the same time there are a few hubbers whose material I do read of whom I am not a fan. It's kind of like those people with tens of thousands of "friends" on myspace. Really? Do you really consider them friends?
Anyway, totally behind you on fan spam countermeasures.
I left a comment for a person last night asking him to please stop (it had been going on for hours) and got a semi-angry letter from them today, and one on one of my articles as well. This person claimed they are not running a program but simply doing "hard work." I had to laugh. Joining fanclubs at the rate of more than 4 per minute for several hours is just not possible without a program...unless you're superman!
It's possible, trust me. Boring and hard, but possible. And I am by no means a superman
My question is why would anyone work that hard to become a fan of megatrillion people? Certainly it isn't to get to work later reading all those hubs? Is it done so others reciprocate? Puzzles me.
Well, they put a value on how many fans they have regardless of how they get them. And as Gamergirl says, they believe it results in more people who see them and read them, though they are not actually reading that person's hubs. Many people will join your fan club if you join theirs. It is detrimental to them and really to everybody, since it renders fan club numbers meaningless, and some people take it very seriously. I don't.
Besides, I think calling it a "fan club" is a mistake in the first place. Instead of "fans", it should be "peers," or something. Instead of "fan clubs," maybe "people who like your stuff." Wordy, I know, but "Fans?" That is someone who pays money to go to a concert and scream their bloody heads off at their favorite musician. I haven't heard any screaming on any of my hubs lately. No autographed 8 x 10's have been requested. Its really bringing me down! Ha!
Where's my autographed 8x10?
Sign with "To Gamergirl with love" please!
I beg to differ (not about you not being superman). I thought it was understood that this should include actually reading the articles and commenting specifically to that article. That is impossible. The comment should be something other than "I joined your fan club now you join mine," which I have seen many times. I delete them.
Not sure what exactly you beg to differ from? You don't think it is possible to join fan clubs with such a speed? Easy - give it a try, and you will see it is possible.
Either way I fail to see what all the drama is about
Try to imagine for a moment that there could be points of view and opinions on this topic different from yours. Just for a change, would you?
I beg to differ that you--or anyone--can navigate to a persons hub, read that hub, comment on that hub, and then join their fan club, 4 times per minute for hours. It's not possible no matter what you say.
Where's the drama? Am I missing drama?
"Try to imagine that there are other points of view and opinions on this topic other than yours. Just for a change?????" Oh, that's rich, coming from you. Also, I fail to see where I don't recognise other peoples opinion. You just made that from thin air. I have an opinion too, and I am expressing it. Fine. If you want to comment here, then perhaps you will share your opinion with us. Why do you join peoples fan clubs without even knowing if they can write? What do you get out of it? When they in turn blindly join yours, does it make you feel needed? Really, I don't get it. Explain rather that attack.
Gamergirl: I'm working on that 8x10!
Don't put words in my mouth please, I never said that. All what I said was that it is possible to manually join fan clubs at a rate of 4 per minute or even faster. I did not say anything about reading, commenting, and such
It's probably because you are creating it.
Not sure why it is rich coming from me, and not rich by itself. Care to elaborate?
On the whole duration of this thread - and comments on Toad's hub - you consistently fail to recognize that other people reasons of joining fan clubs, different from yours, are - umm - legitimate. And keep insisting that your definition of fans, fan clubs, and "fanning" is the only valid one.
You made a couple of assumptions here, which are ungrounded. Do I need to elaborate on any of them, or you could see this yourself? Now, my reasons for joining other people fan clubs include but are not limited to, in no particular order:
1. building backlinks
2. liking their comments or posts on forums
3. liking their hubs
4. liking their face (especially in case of girls, but when I joined your fanclub it played its role, too )
5. hoping they will reciprocate
6. trying to support newbies
I could come up with more probably, but I think it is more than enough
It's rich because you are quite well known for being stubborn and not seeing other's opinions.
I'm not putting words in your mouth, but my own. That is what I am referring to.
There was no drama here until you came and created it.
You bring up my comments on another hub. That has nothing to do with this. You are the first person who has expressed a contrary opinion, so how can I be ignoring the opinions of others when they haven't been there?
Good! I'm glad you have your reasons. Truth is, I don't really care because I figured out how to get that persons hubtivity to not appear in mine, but others had written here, and since I started the thread, I joined in. Knock yourself out.
Now that is interesting. I really would like to know if this is only your observation, or others think similarly.
People, could you please tell me if you agree with Chris on this or not? No offense taken
We all can be "stubborn" about certain things at some point in our life (at least I am). Now is this some sort of a game where either person wants to have the last word. In my hub I mentioned about politics/religion and sometimes sports makes people passionate but never thought that even in point of views in forums. As many people are there so many point of views would be there. Have a great day guys.
There could be several reasons for such a behavior. Reciprocating hopes is definitely one of them, and people do reciprocate quite often. However, all is good in moderation, and this guy is obviously overdoing it
By and large, the authors with the highest scores have a lot more fans, than they are fans of. There are some subtleties to the way it works, but rest assured that most people that join a lot of fan clubs aren't gaining anything by it (that I would consider to be of value, anyway).
LOL CW-girl, I urge you to consider diplomatic career
Thanks for posting, but I really want an honest feedback
Thanks for the compliment. Ok the reason I don't like labeling anybody is because it may also be due to my inability to understand the other person better before judging them. In life so far I have found it is not necessary to always have a definite answer hence I would still reserve my personal opinion until I have further understanding. And also I don't find it wrong if somebody likes to join fan club of everybody they want to compared to others who are more reserved about joining fan clubs. Each person as long as they are operating within the TOS at Hub pages has the right to act as they want to act.
I think you are stubborn, but most of the time you seem like you just don't want to fight people. I also think that joining every single hubber's fanclub is a bit excessive - well, not a bit, a lot, but I still consider you to be a buddy and enjoy chatting with you when we get the chance.
Gamergirl: What? Are you going to throw darts at it or something?
Misha: I didn't mean to offend you with that comment. I don't think I have heard anyone else express that thought. so maybe it's just me. Not that I don't like you. Sometimes you make me laugh, and if I didn't like you, I probably wouldn't bother to argue with you.
I don't know if it's necessary to pursue this, Misha. Lets just say it's only me and I am wrong. I normally keep my mouth shut and mind my own business, but lately, I have been getting more and more outspoken. I don't know why, but I am going to try to mind my own business in the future. Again, I'm sorry for any hard feelings I have caused. I don't argue well. I'm not used to it.
LOL Chris, take it easy, I did not take any offense on this
I am genuinely interested if finding out how I come across in that regard, as there are things that are impossible to see from inside, and if this is how people see me, I definitely need to work on this
Christoph- I too have noticed that "outspoken" part in recent days and it is ok to be outspoken too as long as you are so friendly as the comment above.
Misha- Christoph sure has a good heart and you have lots of experiences/knowledge which most of us love to be at the receiving end (at least most of the times)
Thank Charlotte, I love ya too
Guess I did not phrase my request properly. I know I am stubborn, and this is because my opinions (when I have them) are based on a fair amount of research and thinking I did.
What I was actually interested in was if I really come across as someone who does not respect others' opinions - as what Chris seems to think about me - if I understood him correctly of course.
I didn't use the word "respect", Misha. Is that what you meant when you said it about me?
You used the word "see", seeing others opinions. I took it as recognizing, understanding, respecting. Was I wrong?
I don't know what it can be considered. You said that I failed to 'recognize' other peoples opinions. I only meant to repeat what you had said about me.
Gamergirl: "Well...Ok. I'll trust you not to burn it in a goth ritual. Promise?
No way, I just like collecting cool people's pictures. I'ma bit of a photographical packrat.
And Countrywomen, I agree with Misha (how bout that?). As I wrote somewhere last night, you are always the voice of reason.
Hi! I have been here a couple of months but I have to say that everyone here is great. The differences in opinion and how people feel about certain issues helps give different perspectives on things. I have read alot of Christophs and Mishas comments and think that you guys and a lot of the people I have read and met on here are pretty interesting.
I have been following this forum post and I think both of you guys are interesting and creative and deserve the right to your own opinoins and thoughts no matter who thinks they are right or wrong.
Smile guys You both are cool !
Misha- In a few months I will be 26 (not so tender really). But thanks a lot for such a high opinion about me.
Christoph- It is so nice to see the Lion's usual bright vibrant side. Thanks for that "voice of reason" compliment. I guess you guys are spoiling me with too much praise and not letting me have a level head..LOL
Well, I joined the conversation a tad late, , but I know who Christoph is referring to, as last night, I decided to check hubtivity after working all day, and what do I see, pages after pages of a very young guy joining fan clubs. I wasn't irritated, but not motivated to look for conversations, I could participate. AOL has a filter in their forums where one can block a user id; came in pretty handy, now and then, when trolls would disrupt a forum.
I think both Christoph and Misha are perfect as they are! Thanks for joining my fan club a while back.
I also saw this person joining many fan clubs and was also irritated - it meant that I had to scoll down many pages to find any conversations I may have wanted to join and these actions seemed not only to take up valuable space in hubtivity pages but also time...so was not impressed until I too figured out a way to NOT have to watch these actions continuing - I understand everyone has the right - as long as they observe the TOS of hubpages - to enoy their time here but we all have the right to make observations as to what is and what is not annoying....
Thank you Violetsun! Did you have to include that other guy though? (just kidding)
So now everyone has had fun of talking about me and never communicating to me why my score was low. Every great writer has critics and fans. We allow our work speak.
It is highly unfair to punish a hubber for having legitimate fans. All of which I have earned through my tastes.
When I have enjoyed what I read of a fan and felt they be great then I invited them.
My work stands firm and strong. My Writersworld-International professional group and her websites are testimony to my fans.
For with no fans, we have no readers. Who then will read our writings?
My published work in all medias speak as well.
I am a journalist, an author, interviewer, Book marketing and consultant.
Most recent is Enelle Lamb's One step forward-two steps Back-Living with adhd, a Mother's Perspective. available through lulu and amazon. We are waiting on Dr Phil and Oprah as we speak.
Judy Cullins is a fan of mine, giving me highly recommended.
I respect each of your opinions. Remember It is I, who have the facts.
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