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Need your advice on "The Lost Years of Jesus"

  1. SiddSingh profile image60
    SiddSinghposted 8 years ago

    I was reading this book a few days back that says that there is little or no account of the life of Jesus from age 12 to age 31, except that he spent it in "advancement of wisdom". Even the New Testament has no account of this. Is it true?

    Actually, I want to write a hub about the years that Jesus is believed to have spent in India.

    1. SparklingJewel profile image63
      SparklingJewelposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Sidd, have you read "The Lost Years of Jesus" by Elizabeth Clare Prophet? It talks about those 17 years not in the bible, saying he traveled to the Orient. Some of the documentation she used is from Nicolas Notovitch and his expedition of 1887 to Tibet where he was shown by monks there that Issa was there, etc...also there were four eye witnesses of documents.

      1. SweetiePie profile image84
        SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I am highly skeptical of the accounts that Jesus went far beyond the Middle East during his lifetime.  Back then most people rarely traveled, so these later accounts are usually legends based on other people.  I just do not believe he traveled far and wide, and often people will write certain things to sell a book.  It makes the account interesting, but not necessarily historically accurate.

    2. BDazzler profile image82
      BDazzlerposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Legal records from when he was crucified claim he was in Egypt "learning sorcery" and "stealing the name of God" ... but, we know there were false witnesses at his trial. 

      We know from the book of Mark that he was a carpenter in Nazareth for enough time for them to become familiar with him and his family.

    3. mohitmisra profile image56
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      His grave is supposed to be in Kashmir but most Christians will not acknowledge It.He supposedly came to India to study under the masters who were teaching yoga or how to get union with God for  thousands of years before Jesus.He then went back to spread this knowledge amongst his people . smile

  2. AngloSaxon profile image83
    AngloSaxonposted 8 years ago

    It is true, yes.

    Joseph of Arimathea was a rich merchant and of some standing in the Jewish community of the time. He was also a relative of Jesus and there is a strong tradition that Jesus was brought to England during those "lost years" (Joseph may have owned or had dealings with tin mines in Cornwall). It is not improbable that Joseph may have brough him here or, indeed, to other places.

    The bottom line is that there are traditions and we don't really know. There's quite a bit of research and speculation on the subject if you poke around on the Net.

    Good luck (I never knew there was a tradition that he went to India)!

  3. SiddSingh profile image60
    SiddSinghposted 8 years ago

    Thanks AngloSaxon for the prompt reply!

    Indeed, you have used the right word, "traditions". Obviously, it will be difficult to claim "evidences". But the book that I read sure is very compelling. Understandably, it had raised a storm.

  4. SweetiePie profile image84
    SweetiePieposted 8 years ago

    Even if you do not believe Jesus was a religious figure, one must note that even as a historical figure the probability of him having spent any time in England or India is very slim to none.

    1. Lissie profile image81
      Lissieposted 8 years ago in reply to this



      Id agree with that - it was rare for ordinary people to travel that sort of distance - and even rarer for them to  have come back!

      1. SweetiePie profile image84
        SweetiePieposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Exactly!  Of course if some body wants to write a book about tall tales and get people to buy it, then more power to them.  Just wonder how people actually believe all of these far fetched stories.

        1. LondonGirl profile image88
          LondonGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Look round hubpages. It's staggering what people choose to believe!

          1. Jewels profile image81
            Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            And thank goodness we have the ability to choose what we want to believe, life would be darn boring if we were all confined to the same box.

      2. Mark Knowles profile image61
        Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        The way I see it - if you can come back from the dead, you could probably come back from India tongue

  5. goldentoad profile image61
    goldentoadposted 8 years ago

    I know there are alot of great rumors and "facts" out there but I'm guessing he didn't do much in life until thirty, as is the case with most people. He probably read alot and worked around the community and when he couldn't take the direction people were going, he decided it was time for him to begin his mission.

  6. SiddSingh profile image60
    SiddSinghposted 8 years ago

    @SweetiPie:
    I wouldn't claim to be an authority on religion in general, and Christianity in particular. That said, I think there was certain common ground in certain of Jesus' beliefs(like resurrection) and his teachings with Buddhist and Indian beliefs.

    @Goldentoad:
    Really great to hear from you! You are right about the "thirty years" part. I can't help but agree wink

  7. SiddSingh profile image60
    SiddSinghposted 8 years ago

    Hello, I am back from work!

    @Lissie
    In fact, Silk Route(or Road) was getting some heavy traffic (both ways) at that time. One end of the silk route lay in Egypt, where Jesus is believed to have gone after his parents escaped Herod. So people were indeed traveling, though it was not very common. Certainly not for ordinary people.

    @SweetiePie
    I can't say I believe or disbelieve any of the legends about Jesus. Perhaps I should title the hub as "Did Jesus ever come to India"? The readers can draw their own conclusions either way.

    @Sparkling Jewel:
    No SJ, I have read a different author. Yes, it all started with the account of Nicolas Notovitch, a Russian war correspondent.

    @Mark:
    LOL. I agree Mark, that is a correct assessment (both literally and figuratively). But I suspect you have read the book, since it also talks of Jesus' years after the resurrection wink

  8. aka-dj profile image77
    aka-djposted 8 years ago

    What would have been the point in leaving His home town/country. Everyone at Nazareth knew Him, (well). When He was asked to go elsewhere, He said (plainly) that His mission was to the "house of Israel".
    His purpose in comming (to Earth) was to die for the "sins of the world". There is no reason for Him to allow Himself to be distracted, in any way.

    1. mohitmisra profile image56
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Probably no one there could teach him how to unite with God.

      1. aka-dj profile image77
        aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        He came "from God", how could He not know how? His purpose was not how to get back in union with God, but to die, for sin. It was so we could find union with God.
        But, I know this is too "narrow" for you. With you all is one, one is all etc etc. hmm

        1. mohitmisra profile image56
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I also have come from God but I had to get enlightened or meditate to understand this truth.
          Why is the first church ever build  in Kerala -India? Jesus- India have a relation-whats wrong with it- nothing.

          Now some one like you is not qualified to teach as you don't know god,so you will keep talking without understanding what you are saying.Similarly there were many fakes and Jesus couldn't possibly learn from them, he had to find someone who has seen god ,someone who could guide him.India has always been known to have produced great spiritual master long before Jesus but it just doesn't enter your head.

          But, I know this is too "narrow" for you. With you all is one, one is all etc etc
          Why would Jesus say do unto others as you would have others do unto you-simply because he understood the oneness of all.

  9. SparklingJewel profile image63
    SparklingJewelposted 8 years ago

    I believe there is validity in portions of all the renditions of Jesus. People are in all these different places literally and figuratively. That's what makes the world go round and round and round and round...smile
    What is the unity behind all this diversity...that is the question? What is the Truth behind relative truth? Mystical seeking gives each his/her answer and understanding of who they really are as a spiritual being living a human life.

  10. SparklingJewel profile image63
    SparklingJewelposted 8 years ago

    oops....off to a specific forum this thread needs to go big_smile

    1. SiddSingh profile image60
      SiddSinghposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I guess SJ is right that we are deviating slightly. I just wanted to inquire whether any other readers are aware of the legends associated with Jesus that he traveled to India. Whether he actually traveled here cannot be PROVED! On the other hand, I believe there is no proof to the contrary either. I must stress, I am NOT qualified to comment on teachings of Jesus or his spiritual and religious message.

  11. aka-dj profile image77
    aka-djposted 8 years ago

    Sorry my friend. We are either in two different worlds, or talking about a different Jesus. Either way, we are not on the same page! !
    I see the Jesus of the Bible in a very different light. One that I doubt I can communicate to you.
    I will never accept that He was (is) like other prophets or gurus or wise men. He stands alone, unique, apart from and Lord over all. He IS God, manifest in the flesh, to take away the sin of the world, and He will rule and reign for eternity.
    No other can claim that, for no other is that. cool

    1. mohitmisra profile image56
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      In India we understand Jesus to be a great prophet but why is it so difficult for you to believe in other great prophets.Your vision is too narrow.Do you really think god who is omnipresent has restricted himself to only one human being 2000 years back.This is ridiculing God and not praising Jesus.With your Theory  god is not omnipresent. So it lacks good judgment.

      I see the Jesus of the Bible in a very different light. One that I doubt I can communicate to you.
      I am the light.I will rule and reign for eternity-watch smile

      This logic is like a Muslim saying no one is in the same league as Mohammad
      or a Hindu saying no one is in the same league as Krishna.
      Neither the Muslim nor Hindu  knows what he is really talking about but is trying to portray that he is a holy person.smile.

      Please explain why the first church was build in India.We are happy to give hm the respect he deserves. smile

 
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