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   Johnsleezeposted 10 years ago

   Hello,
   
   A few years ago Adsense banned my account without a reason. Is it possible to get another account so I can use it for Hubpages?
   
   Also I'm trying to sign-up for the other programs but it requires the w-8 form (as I'm from the Netherlands), but when I'm trying to complete it, it says that I need another form. I have no clue which one I need.
   
   Thanks in advance.

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      Simone Smithposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Johnsleeze,
      I'm afraid it is very unusual for someone who has a banned AdSense account to get another one. I'll ping Marina about this and see if she has anything to add (or knows anything about that other form- what is it called?).

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         Johnsleezeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah I know, but maybe it's an idea to make a shared revenue from ads (Squidoo system wise). That way the users like me don't have to create an adsense account.
         
         The form I usally have to submit is called "fw8ben" but that is not the one I need to use here from what I see.

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            Susana Sposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Lol - I don't think the users here would appreciate a change to the very non-transparent earnings system available at squidoo.

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               Johnsleezeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               I don't mean that it needs to be replaced, I only mention that it might be an option for people like me who can't get an Adsense account.

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                  Susana Sposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't think that would ever happen here but in the meantime you can always use amazon. I think that's your only real option as the Hubpages earning program relies on you having adsense.

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            Marina Lazarevicposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Regarding the form -- is this a form on HubPages? Could you provide a link so I can see what you're referring to?

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      Marina Lazarevicposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Johnsleeze, I'm afraid that your best bet is to appeal the original ban. If you simply apply again, that may be viewed as a way to circumvent their decision and I would not be surprised if your application was disapproved. Check your email (including spam folders) for the disapproval email from Google. That may be a good starting point. Unfortunately there isn't anything else we can do to help. As Susana S pointed out, you can still use the Amazon Associates program to earn from your Hubs. Good luck!

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         Johnsleezeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah, I already applied again, but you can't speak normally to Google. When I asked them why my account was banned, they simply didn't reply back.
         
         I'm using amazon already right now, so it seems I need to stick with that.

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            Marina Lazarevicposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Did you use the appeal form to contest the ban? It is very unlikely that they would reply to a separate email.

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         mahingepatrickposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Let me get you clear Marina, you are saying that if your adsense account is disapproved or maybe banned, instead of opening another Google Account and applying with the new email, I should try appealing with the same old email account?

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            galleryofgraceposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            mahingepatrick: If you are applying for an adsense account you must wait several weeks since you are not in the US. You will not be approved until then.
            If you were banned by Google adsense- don't bother to try.

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            Marisa Wrightposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            If you had an Adsense account at the same address, there's no point trying to apply with a new email account.  When Google discovers you're at the same physical location, they will ban the account again.

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               Johnsleezeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Yeah I already tried creating an account on my brothers name (with his permission of course). Doesn't work, which is completely retarded from Google side if you'd ask me.

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                  relacheposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Committing fraud is, of course, yet another fantastic way to get your AdSense account banned and/or cause tax liabilities for your relatives.

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                     Johnsleezeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     It has nothing to do with fraud, I gave up my brothers name and bank info etc.

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                        relacheposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        So, you were going to let your brother have all the money that account was going to accrue?  If you were going to keep all the money, that would be a fraudulent account according to Google's TOS.

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                        wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        They ask for your name, your identification, you give your brothers and it's not fraud?  You earn the income but he will pay the taxes (or ignore them) and it's not fraud?
                        
                        I doubt that google would agree with that.

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                           Johnsleezeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                           It's just my brothers account that way, nothing to do with fraud. He get's paid and he pays me? That's not fraud if you'd ask me

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                              wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                              Who pays the taxes on the income?  Has to be your brother, unless he subcontracts the work to you and pays whatever google pays him.  Will he file a 1099 each year?

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               relacheposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               The same thing will also happen if they find your bank info matches a banned account.

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            Marina Lazarevicposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Looks like you got plenty of good answers, mahingepatrick and Johnsleeze! It's difficult to convince Google to reverse a ban for invalid activity, and it is even more difficult to try and circumvent the ban by using a different email address to create a new account. The latter violates their ToS and may get you permanently banned from the AdSense ecosystem. Again, your best bet is to correct the problem Google listed in the disapproval email and attempt to appeal. And even then there is no guarantee.

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