Publishing many hubs on one day

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   LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years ago

   I have recently begun to completely revamp my hubs. I am publishing several revamped hubs per day. Can this have a negative effect on my HP profile score, Google rankings etc.??

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      Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Not Google rankings but yes the profile scores. Remember that each hub you create affects your hub score average and that average affects your profile score. Don't worry it will go back up.
      
      However, I have never seen your score so low so your hubs may not have anything to do with your score at all.
      
      BTW, how many hubs are you publishing per day?

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         LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Since it's you....and you know you're my favorite....I unpublished all of my hubs in a span of three days, removed all the photographs and have begun to slowly re-populate the hubs with fresh new photographs. So I went from about 570 published hubs to about 104, thus the traffic was cut by 10X. I guess my question stems from risking being labeled as spam (by Google, HP) if I published many hubs on one day since it is not "natural" to publish so many in a short span of time.

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            Diane Woodsonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I have never understood this, if when you revamp the work, it is better quality, does anyone have a take on this? Good for you for working so hard on all of them, I have over 90 it would take a while to refurbish all of them!!! On hubscore, why can and do they drop a few points so quickly?

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            Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I know I'm your favorite and I going to take full advantage of that mister!
            
            Lordy! That might be it. I wish you hadn't done that. two or three per day would have been fine but so many is quite unnatural.
            
            Did you use webmaster tools to remove the url from search? That may also pose a problem as well.

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               LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               They are de-indexed in about two to three days once they are unpublished

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                  janderson99posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I recall that HP has a spam detector rule in place. If you publish a lot of hubs quickly (not re-edits), HP thinks you are a spammer extraordinaire and drags your hubber score down (it happens to me when I work on several hubs at once and publish them all on the same day). The same thing happens if you try to make friends too quickly, by getting a lot of followers in a short time. Hubber score goes down abd slowly crawls back up.  Strange tales but true.

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                     LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     So I guess that since these are previously published hubs,thus re-edits, the spam label will not fit?

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                        Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        No, since you removed the hubs then republished them, from what I gather, they may be marked as spam.

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                           WalterPoonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Why is there a need to remove the hubs? Just reedit and if you need to remove any capsules, just remove. Spam is when you make many copies.

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                              Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              He did say that he unpublished all his hubs then republished them in a short span from 500+ down to 104 (see his response to my original query).
                              
                              It doesn't matter whether or not he is posting copies, Google sees spamming as unnatural posting of content. It is not natural to post 100 articles within 3 days on the same site. Google will read that as a bot or software. I am not sure if HP picks up the publishing of articles the same way. I suppose they do since they reduce profile score so quickly when that happens.

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                                 WalterPoonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Unpublish and republish... to me, I thought it is just a matter of clicking the "Publish/Unpublish" button. Of course, if I am doing a major revamp, I will click that button (doesn't mean deleting), but not if I am just doing a minor edit.

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                                    Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    When you unpublish you are asking the system to de-index your hub. In turn they will tell Google to remove it as well. That is not a problem, but republishing the same hub (though edited) in a short period of time will cause problems. Simone explained it to me once but I fail t remember what happened on HP when a hubber does that. I do know that the excessive republishing is not good as far as Google is concerned.

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                              skperdonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              You all know I'm a newbie hubber, but I have been reediting my few hubs, changed the pics on a few yesterday and today and some capsules, too.
                              I found quite simple to reedit rather than unpublish it.

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                                 WalterPoonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 I am also a newbie hubber. I agree with you. I don't see why we need to unpublish. Maybe there is a good reason for doing so in exceptional cases.

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                  Cardisaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  They take 2-3 weeks to clear all caches and could be marked duplicate by any search engine before they do.

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                     WalterPoonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Guess it doesn't matter because after that period, they will treat your article as original, right?
                     
                     Honestly, I don't bother about this kind of stuff. What I want to see is an article that I am proud of and that I am proud to show to my friends. I won't be surprised that I will redo some of my hubs eventually, as my knowledge and skills improve and if the earnings hurt in the short-run, it won't stop me from doing it. In the long-run, a quality hub should earn more, right?

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      WalterPoonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      LuisEGonzalez, I suppose if you made your edited hubs worse than before, it could affect your rankings, LOL. If not, it won't. Re-edits are not spam, unless you make many copies of it and post all over.

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         LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         They are the same (one copy), the edits were only removing old photos and adding new ones

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   livewithrichardposted 12 years ago

   Did you unpublish them and delete them, or just unpublish them to edit them?  The difference is that when you delete them you need to create a whole new URL.  If this is the case then it would be best to limit how many you republish each day. 
   
   If you just unpublished them and did not delete the existing URL then there shouldn't be a problem at all.  Besides, the hubber score really doesn't matter until it drops below that threshold where you can no longer have affiliate links.

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   lovebuglenaposted 12 years ago

   Why would you unpublish a hub that you want to revamp? You can just edit it...and there should be no issues then. You can edit as many hubs as you want a day. As far as publishing many hubs a day I don't see anything wrong with that. I'd assume it would only be deemed as spam if you publish one hub after the other within say an hour, for example. Otherwise you should be fine.

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   Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years ago

   Luis - hop some hubs for a while, and that should raise your Hubber score.  Actually, we should all do that several times a week, 
   
   Meanwhile, I hadn't heard that unoublishing and then republishing would hurt a score.  I'll remember that.  It does make sense that HP would have a spam-meter or something factored into the equation. 
   
   Good for you, though, for going into old hubs and making them fresher.  I hope the number slump is short lived - we all know you're one of the string writers here.

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      LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      String writer?, I didn't even know that was a name......lol, hope it means something good........

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         Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Oops!  Mobile auto-correct!  Lol!   Well, regular contributors in print publications are called 'stringers' does that count?  And even some STRONG writers are stringers.  There.  That should fix it.

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   Simone Smithposted 12 years ago

   Hey LuisEGonzalez,
   My best advice to you would be to proceed slowly and take it as an opportunity to also edit and update the content of your Hubs. That will keep the publication rate down, plus also add additional value to your work.

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      LuisEGonzalezposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Point taken, thanks

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   socialmarketing7posted 12 years ago

   Yes it's true. I publish one hub every few days. If you post all at once your score will drop for some reason. Then it comes back up!

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   Making-Jewelleryposted 12 years ago

   I never bother to unpublish a hub to revamp it .... I am usually revamping them because of low traffic, so I figure that during the time it takes me to revamp nobody in the world would even notice.
   
   

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