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   Beth37posted 10 years ago

   Do we get credit for the visits to a new hub while the pending arrow is still going round? Cause I always get a ton of hits at first, then the hub is featured, the hits slow way down and then it is accepted. My spinney arrow has been at it quite some time this time.

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      Marina Lazarevicposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      We always count Hub views, but ads are turned off on Hubs while they are in pending mode.
      
      http://hubpages.com/faq/#adsense-does-not-appear

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      nanette betteposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The same thing happened to me. So I went back and re wrote different parts of my hub re checked what I had wrote. I got some feed back.

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   psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

   And why is this?

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      livewithrichardposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I'm just guessing, but they are probably disabled while pending so that the hub can be evaluated on its own merit through QAP without any ads as a distraction.

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         calculus-geometryposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I think in the QAP interface the raters use the ads are automatically removed (whether the hub is new or old), along with identifying information about the author and other things that could pose a distraction.  So I don't think ads are removed for that purpose.

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      Marina Lazarevicposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The main reason is to prevent Hubs from being crawled by search engines while they are NOINDEX.  The search and AdSense bots use a shared crawling infrastructure. 
      
      Second, it gives us some time to identify and deal with ad safety issues.  Hubs that don't pass the QAP are (probably) more likely to contain undetected policy violations.

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   psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

   That doesn't make sense to me.  Existing hubs get QAPped all the time and they have ads.

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      calculus-geometryposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      For hubs that go through QAP after being published for the first time, the ads are off.  Hubs that go through QAP long after they have been published retain the ads.

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         psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         That is what I said.
         
         My question ism why have them off for new hubs? Some of them get a lot of traffic.

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            calculus-geometryposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Oh. Maybe HP figured they'd lose too much revenue if they took the ads off of everything that was going through QAP -- old hubs are a safer bet since if they've lasted this long, they must not be too bad (on average, it's not too hard to find glaring exceptions.)  But they feel they can't risk it with new hubs anymore.
            
            Still it would be nice if "trusted authors" with a high feature rate could have ads while their hubs are pending.  Some of mine also get a burst of traffic right after publication.

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   livewithrichardposted 10 years ago

   Either way, it makes no difference in the grand scheme of things... It's not likely anyone is going to break the bank in 24 hrs on a new hub.  Ads being disabled have no effect on the hub getting indexed.

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   psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

   Hubs in general won't break the bank.  But I would still like to know.

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      wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Purely a guess, but perhaps to make sure that it isn't obviously against Adsense TOS?  Turkers probably wouldn't catch much, but might catch obvious violations.

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         Marina Lazarevicposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Yep, that's one reason.

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   Barbara Kayposted 10 years ago

   I don't share anything until the hub goes through the process of being approved. Then when it is, I share it with my friends etc. You don't earn money from fellow hubbers anyways, so it doesn't really matter.
   
   Of course if fellow hubbers share it on Pinterest, Twitter, or Facebook before it is approved, you lost some income

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      chasmacposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You mean you don't earn from Hubbers while the hub is pending, right? But can you confirm that after it's featured, you earn from Hubbers' visits if you're in the HP ad program? Obviously that's for impressions - not clicks, which are a no no. The reason I think that hubbers' views earn money is because my recent 'Hub of the day' earned me a tidy sum (relatively speaking of course). I had record views and record daily earnings that lasted a couple of days. All of those increased views  were from Hubbers.

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   duffsmomposted 10 years ago

   Views from other hubbers don't count?  Darn.

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      Barbara Kayposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Not for the Hubpage Ad Program anyways. Hubbers are discouraged from clicking on the Google Ads of others too. The reason being that Hubpages gets 40% of the ad time. If all people from Hubpages click on Google Ads, it could get the company in trouble, possibly the rest of us too.

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   nanette betteposted 10 years ago

   I did not know that. Thank you

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   Beth37posted 10 years ago

   Well hey, that kinda sucks. I don't get a lot of traffic, I don't post on FB.
   I usually get close to 50 hits within the first 24 hours. Thats a lot for me. Then it's back to reality. Wouldn't it be nice if I could actually be earning whilst published.

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      Ghaelachposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      @Beth37
      We must be in the same boat. I generally get a lot less than 50 each day, and at this moment, Tuesday 10:30am I have 18 visits. Don't know why. Everyone say's they think my hubs are good, but apparently not good enough.

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         WalterPoonposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Ghaelach, I thought you were talking about money when you said 50 and was wondering whether you were referring to US$50 a day or 50 cents a day until I found out that you were talking about number of visits!!!

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         Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I spose it has to do with drumming up traffic, and where folks find us on Google. I assume I am pretty far down the list. Maybe that will change in time.

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    Beth37posted 10 years ago

    Dear lovely ppl at HP's...
    
    My hub, Words... the Greatest Aphrodisiac, is still pending... I think it has been 3 days now? Not sure, but there have been 60+ hits. (That is like 1.5 million in Mark Ewbie terms.) I would so enjoy collecting revenue from this hub considering the moment it publishes, views will drop off to 3 per week. When will the spinney arrow stop spinning?

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       Marina Lazarevicposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       There was an issue with processing the QAP queues and it was fixed yesterday. It looks like you edited your Hub while the QAP was broken which is why it's been pending for so long. It should go through within 24 hours, but hopefully sooner. Apologies for the inconvenience this has caused.

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          Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

          Oh! I feel so much better knowing. Thanks! It's no inconvenience at all, it's just nice to have a reason. I so appreciate you letting me know.

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       Mark Ewbieposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Lol Beth. 
       
       Congrats on your 100.

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          Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

          It means Im better than you... I mean THANKS MARK!

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    psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

    In my personal opinion, if pending is going to take three days and more, lets just leave things unpublished until they are assessed?

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       Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I thought the point of the spinney arrow was that they *were being assessed in order to be published or not published.

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          psycheskinnerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          It is to assess whether the will be indexed and made visible to Google.  They are published the second they enter QAP, they just have no ads and so earn no money.

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             Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

             Right, I get that... it just seems it's taking quite a while.
             (and it appears I wrote it on the 18th, so I guess it's only been two days, but Im used to seeing it decided on within a much shorter time.)

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    brakel2posted 10 years ago

    Pending is supposed to be very brief time these days. Someone from staff said two hours. My last hub went from pending to being indexed by Google in one day.

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       Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah, that has been my experience... I feel like its "stuck".

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    brakel2posted 10 years ago

    Maybe reviewing old hubs has created a backlog.

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       Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Huh, maybe that's the issue. Thanks.

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    LCDWriterposted 10 years ago

    That does seem like it's a bit long for it to be in pending.  Have you checked your email?  Last time this happened to me it ended up one of my photos was watermarked (it wasn't but they though it was) so it stuck in pending until I fixed it.

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       Beth37posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       No, no email, thanks though.

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    Beth37posted 10 years ago

    It's featured! Woo hoo, so relieved. Thanks again.

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       Marina Lazarevicposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       

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