I would certainly hope not, given that the HP stats counter seems to be rather past its use-by date, and frequently gets stuck. Even staff have told us in the past that we are better off using Google analytics.
Whenever the stats get "stuck" they seem to have trouble catching up with the views we had in the meantime. This is annoying, it is hardly a huge problem though.......unless the faulty stats are used to calculate our payouts.
I would imagine that advertisers have their own way of counting impressions of their ads for which they pay. That still leaves the problem of how the money is divided between different subdomains.
It would be reassuring if somebody official could tell us that the problems with the HP views counter don't affect the money our hubs make.
Have you looked at the daily impressions in the earnings section? Maybe you could work it out from there. I'm too lazy. Good question though - however the fact that they take 40%, plus CTR varies and the main stats are on a rolling 24 hours instead of static... maybe hard to work out.
Yep, the best thing would be for a member of staff to come here and explain clearly how the number of impressions on our subdomains is calculated.
Although possibly asking this on a Sunday is not the best strategy to get an answer. I guess I'll just have to wait patiently till tomorrow.
Technically, Hub Stats are completely separate from ad impression tracking for the Ad Program.
The ad impressions are calculated by: 1) identifying the subdomain on the page, 2) identifying the ad locations on the page, 3) determining which of those ad locations actually displayed an ad for a given impression, and 4) recording the data. It works pretty much the same way any ad network does it.
If the Ad Program is performing poorly for you (as it has for others) then you should try switching to the AdSense only layout. I'm not sure if you've tried an AB test, but several Hubbers have done this and gotten mixed results! You can always turn the Ad Program on or off.
Thanks Marina for answering the question. That is all I wanted to know. I did suspect that the ad impressions were independent of Hub Stats, but it is nice to have that confirmed.
Actually I don't think the Ad program is performing poorly for me. I suspect I would earn less from Adsense. My main concern was that the Hub Stats are often on the blink (sometimes they don't update for days).
This is annoying because they are a nice way of tracking traffic. If they were also used to calculate ad impressions, that would be a lot more than annoying.
Happy to hear that the Ad Program is performing well for you! I'm sorry about the recent bugginess with the Hub view stats. There were a couple major fixes recently that should make metrics tracking more robust. Of course, future bugs may come up, but we know how important this feature is to the community (and for good reason!) and will keep working to improve it.
I've worried about this myself. Not only are statistics responsible for how much we make, but now traffic determines whether or not our Hubs remain featured. There is a lot to worry about here. There is very little transparency and accountability. There always seems to be "some bug" affecting the consistency.
They conduct experiments but don't share the details - unless we catch them. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks it's done to prevent us from understanding the impact of experiments ourselves. It makes it harder to game the system. Also to understand how things such as the Related Searches affect us.
Yes I do use Google Analytics. But a lot of people apparently use these as well.
Analytics annoys me. I know, I know I should be using it all the time but I like the nice, straightforward this is how many hits you've had in the last 24 hours and from where Hp counter. So I become really irritated when it's stuck.
by Sherry Hewins 20 months ago
A few days ago, I noticed that a lot of people were talking about changing from HP Ad Program to Google AdSense. I had tried that a few years ago, but switched back pretty quickly because I earned better with HP. Recently though, since my earnings have dropped so much, I figured I didn't have much...
by Nathan Bernardo 21 months ago
Some people have said they've turned off HP Ads and just use Adsense and actually make more money from Adsense. I'm considering trying that out and was curious how much more some of you are making just through Adsense. Fifty percent more? Twice as much? Triple? Quadruple?
by Carolee Samuda 4 years ago
I am not very intelligent when it comes to traffic stats, so sue me..lolWhy is Google Analytics stats more than the HP stats for the same period? Before you assume that Google logs my visits to my hubs, let me clarify that I have hardly been visiting my own hubs. I have an excess of 400+ visitors...
by Carolee Samuda 4 years ago
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by James Paterson 4 years ago
Normally my Hubstats are consistent with my Google Analytics stats but for the past couple of days my Google statistics have been showing around 500 more views than Hubpages have been showing, is there still a problem going on with Hubpages reporting? jimmy
by Catherine Giordano 3 years ago
Yesterday HP stats were about 1/3 of what GA showed. Today my views are 8. Totally impossible. What is going on?
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