The Hub Hopper: Are we doing our civic duty?

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   jansharesposted 11 years ago

   I'm curious as to whether there has been a decrease in hubbers using the hub hopper to rate hubs. I just have a feeling there is because my hub scores haven't been fluctuating as much (which is fine with me). Overall, I'm wondering if there's been a bit of a slow down in hub QAP due to adjustments/transitions since the changing of the guard. I dunno. My sixth sense is picking up a change in activity, morale, motivation, etc.

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      ThompsonPenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I rarely Hub Hop. I appreciate it, and I'd like to do it more, but it always takes me to hubs that I don't know how to rank, whether they're poetry, creative writing - how do you rank structure on a creative writing piece?? - or a hub that just doesn't hold my attention due to the subject matter. I find it hard, and sometimes I do find a Hub that I think is amazing, and I can't find a way to comment on it other than opening a new tab to get to it.
      I think the Hub Hopper could use some improvements, like maybe it only hops to hubs in your fields of interest.
      I think it's a great thing, and I wish I had more patience for it. But it's just not my dealio. I'd much rather catch Hubs as they come up on my feed, though I know I'm only seeing a fraction of a fraction of them

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      davidlivermoreposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I used to, but I don't as much anymore.  I know I'll get flak from those into creative writing, but when I hop hubs over half of them are poetry.  I don't want to read it.  Yes, I could just hit "hop" again, but doing it multiple times in a row is tiring.
      
      I wish there was a Hub Hopper that filtered out poetry.  I like reading new, random hubs, making comments, flagging, etc.  But it's just not worth it as much anymore.

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         ThompsonPenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I appreciate poetry, but the Hub-hopper standards is difficult to rate them to move on. And sometimes I just gotta be in the mood to read them

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I tried the new hub hopper a few times, but, do not like it. It is too time consuming and not as easy as it used to be. I like it when we could just vote up, down, or skip.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   Because of this thread, I went and did one. Just for you.

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      jansharesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Awww, for me? Well, very nice of you. I'd love to here from others, especially staff, if they've seen a decrease.

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   WriteAngledposted 11 years ago

   Given that there are people being paid to do this work, I have absolutely no intention to do the same work for free.

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      ThompsonPenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Good point!

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      livewithrichardposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      +1

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I tend to agree with that, WriteAngled. 

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   Kathryn Stratfordposted 11 years ago

   I agree with ThompsonPen. I used to HubHop, but since I already have so many hubs from people I follow to read, I don't usually have the time or the patience to HubHop. Like she said, some are not my kind of topic to read, and hard to rate. But since you mention it, maybe I will make it a point to do it every once in a while.

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   ThompsonPenposted 11 years ago

   I actually just did some hopping. I did find a very well written and put together Hub about riding first class, and once again, I wanted to comment on it, but wasn't able to. Then I found a report on the news, then a religious piece, which I found the little button which said "creative writing", which I checked before moving onto the ratings. Then I found some stuff on internet dating and more religious stuff. There's certain things I just don't feel like I can rate accurately

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      HollieTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That's probably because most thinking people cannot possibly feel stimulated by internet dating and religion. Sorry, to all those internet dating, religious people.  Having said that, I once read a hub about internet dating which was really funny, interesting and like having a conversation with a friend embarking on a new journey:
      
      http://peanutritious.hubpages.com/hub/F … net-Dating
      
      It's not one of mine, of course, but also read the comments. Made me giggle.

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         ThompsonPenposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Ha ha! A woman I can agree with all around! Thanks for sharing that Hub - crocs INDEED! They truly are the worst thing to put on your feet right there along with slugs and jelly fish.

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            HollieTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            You're welcome.

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   FlourishAnywayposted 11 years ago

   I used to do a lot of Hubhopping but when they brought the old hubs to be reviewed, I'd have several inappropriate hubs (things that required reporting) right in a row.  That was discouraging and demotivating and made me feel like the police.  I stopped.  I have no idea whether hub hopping affects my score or not.  I would prefer not to do someone else's paid work for them.

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      Jean Bakulaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      They aren't paid very much to check out our hubs. I used to like hub hopping. It's a quick way to see what others are writing about. I like the old way though, so use the classic hopper. The new system is too time consuming. You can tell a hub is awful after you've read a few words, there is no need to check so many categories. I notice the religious hubs are less. I've had a problem with a majority of them, because anyone can copy 10 Scriptures word for word. But can they tell us what meaning they have in their lives? Has one Scripture opened their eyes and made them view the world in a new way? If the writer can honestly answer those questions, that's one thing. But I found it tiresome and don't believe Christians or anyone else should be recruiting people to their religion on a writing site.

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   Solarasposted 11 years ago

   Hopping hubs recently I have run into a bunch of spun articles.  Some of them are amusing, but it's a concern that I will run into 3 of them for every 5 hubs I hop.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago

   I still "hub hop" from time to time using the "classic" hopper because quite frankly I never was able to make heads or tails out of the "new" one.

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   jansharesposted 11 years ago

   Thanks to everyone who responded to this thread, sharing your views and sentiments about using the hub hopper. You make valid points. Your feelings are understandable. It seems that the most common response is to let those who are paid take care of it. Second to that is lack of motivation after running into uninteresting or poorly written hubs. Whatever your reason, I think my thought about decreased use is probably true.
   I saw this week's HubPages Weekly that states a transition is going on with hubberscores and rating our hubs so maybe that's a part of it, too. But I can definitely see that things have slowed. My hubscores have not moved all week. Is anyone else's at a stand still?

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      My hubs seem to be at a standstill, Jan. I am going to remove all my poetry and give it to my blog. All my poems become unfeatured after a short while and no matter how often I edit them, the get unfeatured again -- very frustrating, so.... off they go!  I do not have time to continually "fix" my poems, which I think are fine the way they are. There are only four women who are moderating hub content and they apparently do not like poetry much.

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         jansharesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Sad to know you're moving your work and feel so defeated. You're so talented. I wish you luck with the the transition.

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            Phyllis Doyleposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Well, I do feel a little defeated, Jan -- yet, I think my decision will be best for me, for my blog, and for HP. I mean, if my poetry is not helping HP be seen as a quality site, then there is no reason to keep my poems here -- and they will boost my blog a lot. Thanks for the compliment and the luck wish. 

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    larakernposted 11 years ago

    janshares, I try to hop a few hubs each month but lately I've been so bogged down with other projects that I can hardly find time to write a stellar hub let along hop hubs. When I was new to HP, I tried to hop a few hubs every day. For some reason it seemed to boost my author score in the long run. Instead of hopping hubs, I try to squeeze in time on the forums and commenting on other hubber's hubs.

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       jansharesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       We all do what we can. That's what matters most. Time is so precious and we don't have enough.

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    IzzyMposted 11 years ago

    I absolutely totally agree with writeangled, why do something for free when others are paid for it? Where I live, I cannot get paid for it.
    
    That said, used to hub-hop a LOT! I used their old system, and found the occasional gem, but most new hubs were not just muck, they were against TOS.
    
    The new system I dislike intensely, because you cannot opt to skip a hub, even when it is written on a topic you do not care about.
    
    And when you find a really bad one, there is no option to just say it is bad (and why), instead you have to fill in all the boxes about where you would rate it.
    
    Really, we all should be be hopping like mad. It is in all our interests to make the site the best it possibly can be.
    
    Unfortunately, the incentive isn't there when the new hopper makes it such hard work.

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       jansharesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks, Izzy for your response. I agree it was easier when you could skip one you didn't care to read. I still hop, though. I don't find it that difficult, only sometimes boring. But I usually move through 3 or 4 pretty fast. I exit when I come to one I don't have time to read or interest in reading.

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    Jennifer Sucheyposted 11 years ago

    I'm fairly new so I can't comment on past hub hopping versus now, but I have done some hopping. It's definitely interesting and I like giving my input (I think I may have a calling as an editor!), but I do tend to want to spend my non-writing time reading hubs in a subject I both have interest in and can give a "view" to, comment on etc. However, a couple of times I've hopped to a hub I wanted to comment on, so I went and found it outside the hopper and commented on it that way.

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       jansharesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       That's a good way you've found to handle it, Jennifer. It is interesting and fun being an editor.

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    vocalcoachposted 11 years ago

    Hub Hopping is actually something I enjoy doing.  I don't mind a bit that I'm not getting paid for this.  But then I'm one of those people that likes to help when I can.  I come across some very well-written hubs that are well presented and then I find some that are terrible.
    
    In fact I found one a few minutes ago that had no written text - not one word.  The hub only contained videos.
    
    Sometimes, while hopping, I find an idea that I can use for a hub.  I'm also reminded of what makes a stellar hub
    
    Thanks for this topic.  I've read everyone's comments and opinions and found a good variety which causes me to ponder more about hub hopping.

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       jansharesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       You're welcome, vocalcoach. Thanks for answering.

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