Was wondering what "real" hubbers thought of this. A user on here has a joke account designed to flame another user under the guise of creative writing. So far HP staff agree with it being creative and not harmfull, and will likely shut this thread down. But how does the fact that the joke user is getting traffic make experienced hubbers feel. And since his titles are serious and not a joke, actual visitors come here, are offended and leave. I was just wandering how the idea of joke or phony, flame, accounts make people feel who are trying to do professional work here.I will likely have a joke hub made about me over this. But I want an opinion. I find the users work offensive but funny. I need to know if that is how others feel.
I think the point of the parody account is to highlight how hubbers who take their work seriously feel when poor quality work passes QAP!
That really did perturb me re: my infamous armadillo adventure. On the other hand, it has already earned me $4.30 on Bubblews. So whoever the mturk was that piddled on it probably did me a favor.
Clucking to loud about true Identity in a hen house is how chickens get eaten by foxes. Just saying.
Enlighten me, are you referring to your accusation that Beth37 is a troll with several identities or my musings about whether you are another hubber and winding us up for fun? I do actually take that back now, the hubber to whom I was referring does, at least, have a good sense of humour and doesn't take everything to heart.
Wait... what? lol... How did I become involved in this? I only have one account. If you can tell by url or isp... or however they locate if an account is coming from the same place, there is no question I have one account here. Im not even sure what Im defending myself of here.
To me it's feels the same as discovering profiles online where epsonok0/"Jaty Robertson" sometimes claims to be a woman and sometimes claims to be a gay man, ranging anywhere in age from early 20s to early 30s.
This might explain the gender identity:
I wasn't questioning epsonok0's gender, instead indicating how I felt about "the idea of joke or phony, flame, accounts" versus accounts where people are trying to do professional work.
Forgot to mention that we will not be mentioning hubber names here.
"Real" Hubbers have jokes, flames against other Hubbers and serious titles under the guise of forum posts. People "trying to do professional work" on the forums generally ignore the clowns and the trolls, like the guy who doesn't have his head screwed on straight in his avatar picture. Yeah, they're funny. The joke's on them.
I agree with Hollie.
Partially the point of the account is to show how low the QAP standards are for "creative writing." And if you read past the username, you'll see that it pokes fun of a lot of types of articles that proliferate here, not just one person and his deep, earth-shattering poetry. It even made fun of me, which I found absolutely hilarious. You have to have a sense of humor.
agree and a lot is funny. but how you get 5 featured is beyond me. doing it his way.
Another PoeticPerson writes poems of 30 words, rife with unintentional spelling errors and adds a sidebar of bulleted search terms, and these hubs are also featured.
Yet people who write serious articles will find their articles unfeatured if they don't get enough search traffic. Does that seem right? You should get mad at the system, not the person pointing out the flaws in the system.
I can't see that these accounts would get organic search traffic, especially if as the OP claims people would open the page and immediately bounce back to the search results. Google is not going to keep a page that people do not read at the top end of the search results compared to a page that someone actually reads.
These accounts and pages will not poach traffic from the "serious" writer..... However if it is a parody of "creative writing" I would guess that neither page would get much in the way of organic traffic..
Will not be long before the pages are not featured for lack of engagement.............
I don't understand poetry though... it all reads rubbish to me... I guess i am just lacking an appreciation for art..
What kills me is the hubber we all are referring too, has 25 simultaneous hubs. So anyone that thinks they dont get organic traffic is wrong. Some hubs have real titles and I found them in google searches. When i report him for stolen images, and improper content, I loose the community help accolade and about 3-10 points on my hub score. I have also been advised by anonymous emails to stop reporting him. Lets play fair if we are going to play. Frankly the fact that staff does not acknowledge this Hubber means some kind of strange deal is going on. The fact that I get threatening emails every time I report him or her, is also a strange thing.
It appears your own account is a sock puppet account. Why are you so obsessed with this particular hubber?
Why don't you show some screenshots of the emails that you have received? Surely that would be the way to deal with this when reporting him.
I think any random Google user who found those parody hubs would get a good laugh. They are funny on their own, whether you are in on the parody part of it not. Those hubs are much better than the "Indian Aunty" hubs. Some of the aunty hubs hardly have any words at all, and feature nudity. I think "serious" Hubbers find it much more offensive to share a site with those dreadful articles.
Have you ever heard of Shel Silverstein or read Runny Babbit? That book is hilarious, and it is nothing but goofy little rhymes with poor spelling and all kinds of funny innuendo.
One of my hubs was parodied and I got a good laugh out of it.
What is your reason for being so concerned about the parodies, Epsonok0?
For all your talk of "serious" and "real" writers, epsonok0, I think a much better use of your time would be to proofread your own hubs to fix the spelling, grammar, and style issues. Give you readers a good experience and don't waste time thinking about someone else's activities.
Or just be a troll and spend all your energy on a sideshow.
I missed this thread's development. Could someone tell me if I'm reading it right?
1 Epsonok0 said he felt that another hubber was persecuting him (in a roundabout kind of way).
2 WF outed him as gay.
3 A lynch mob assembled and made fun of his beefcake collection
4 Epsonok0 learned his lesson and left.
It's high quality stuff. Far too good for Bubblews of course and a much better use of time.
Remind me how much you guys get paid for this?
No, I responded to Relache who outed the fact that he has a conflicting online presence where he "sometimes claims to be a woman and sometimes claims to be a gay man." I never said he was gay. That must be the conclusion you came to from viewing his Pinterest page. Then someone else in a comment on a Hub linked to an online profile on a page listing sex offender arrests. I wondered why you have such a problem getting your facts straight, then I Googled you and found that bubblews post about 'the meanest hubber of all making an apse of himself again.' The comments on that bubble were interesting and insightful.
I'm going to suggest a new accolade, featuring pitchforks and firebrands.
Epsonok0 was the one who first posted and said they sometimes posted as a man and sometimes as a woman, in the "tell us" thread that Beth37 started. In that thread, the OP is a young woman named Jennifer/Jaty.
And when I did a google search for "epsonok0," I found this profile on mingle2.com, where this person claimed to be a man, looking for other men. In that profile, the name is still Jaty Robertson but now the person is a man in his early 30s.
In response to the original question (again), I feel exactly the same way about joke or flame profiles as I do about this one/this person.
Closed account. So if he/she has others, gone but not forgotten?
The blood spilled should quiet the forums for a while.
Not every ill can be mothered away with a word or a gesture.
I just checked your HP account and you no longer exist here on HP.
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