Do joke accounts make HP look bad?

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   epsonok0posted 11 years ago

   Was wondering what "real" hubbers thought of this. A user on here has a joke account designed to flame another user under the guise of creative writing. So far HP staff agree with it being creative and not harmfull, and will likely shut this thread down. But how does the fact that the joke user is getting traffic make experienced hubbers feel. And since his titles are serious and not a joke, actual visitors come here, are offended and leave. I was just wandering how the idea of joke or phony, flame, accounts make people feel who are trying to do professional work here.I will likely have a joke hub made about me over this. But I want an opinion. I find the users work offensive but funny. I need to know if that is how others feel.

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      HollieTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think the point of the parody account is to highlight how hubbers who take their work seriously feel when poor quality work passes QAP!

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         paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         That really did perturb me re: my infamous armadillo adventure. On the other hand, it has already earned me $4.30 on Bubblews. So whoever the mturk was that piddled on it probably did me a favor.

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         epsonok0posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Clucking to loud about true Identity in a hen house is how chickens get eaten by foxes. Just saying.

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            HollieTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Enlighten me, are you referring to your accusation that Beth37 is a troll with several identities or my musings about whether you are another hubber and winding us up for fun? I do actually take that back now, the hubber to whom I was referring does, at least, have a good sense of humour and doesn't take everything to heart.

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               Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Wait... what? lol... How did I become involved in this? I only have one account. If you can tell by url or isp... or however they locate if an account is coming from the same place, there is no question I have one account here. Im not even sure what Im defending myself of here.

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                  HollieTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  I believe you, just that someone else believes that you might be someone else- if you get my drift. Don't worry about it Beth

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      relacheposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      To me it's feels the same as discovering profiles online where epsonok0/"Jaty Robertson" sometimes claims to be a woman and sometimes claims to be a gay man, ranging anywhere in age from early 20s to early 30s.

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         Writer Foxposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         This might explain the gender identity:
         http://www.pinterest.com/epsonok0/guys-i-love/

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            relacheposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I wasn't questioning epsonok0's gender, instead indicating how I felt about "the idea of joke or phony, flame, accounts" versus accounts where people are trying to do professional work.

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               Writer Foxposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               This is on his profile right now:
               "This account is in the process of being closed by HP staff."

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                  relacheposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Epsonok0 has to have typed that.  That's not any of the official system messages.

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         Writer Foxposted 11 years agoin reply to this

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            Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Gee whiz, I did not need to see that. lol

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               paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Ditto.

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                  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  lol. For different reasons Im sure.

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   epsonok0posted 11 years ago

   Forgot to mention that we will not be mentioning hubber names here.

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   Writer Foxposted 11 years ago

   "Real" Hubbers have jokes, flames against other Hubbers and serious titles under the guise of forum posts.  People "trying to do professional work" on the forums generally ignore the clowns and the trolls, like the guy who doesn't have his head screwed on straight in his avatar picture.  Yeah, they're funny. The joke's on them.

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   calculus-geometryposted 11 years ago

   I agree with Hollie. 
   
   Partially the point of the account is to show how low the QAP standards are for "creative writing." And if you read past the username, you'll see that it pokes fun of a lot of types of articles that proliferate here, not just one person and his deep, earth-shattering poetry.  It even made fun of me, which I found absolutely hilarious. You have to have a sense of humor.

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      epsonok0posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      agree and a lot is funny. but how you get 5 featured is beyond me. doing it his way.

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         calculus-geometryposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Another PoeticPerson writes poems of 30 words, rife with unintentional spelling errors and adds a sidebar of bulleted search terms, and these hubs are also featured. 
         
         Yet people who write serious articles will find their articles unfeatured if they don't get enough search traffic.  Does that seem right? You should get mad at the system, not the person pointing out the flaws in the system.

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   LeanManposted 11 years ago

   I can't see that these accounts would get organic search traffic, especially if as the OP claims people would open the page and immediately bounce back to the search results. Google is not going to keep a page that people do not read at the top end of the search results compared to a page that someone actually reads.
   These accounts and pages will not poach traffic from the "serious" writer..... However if it is a parody of "creative writing" I would guess that neither page would get much in the way of organic traffic..
   
   Will not be long before the pages are not featured for lack of engagement.............
   
   
   I don't understand poetry though... it all reads rubbish to me... I guess i am just lacking an appreciation for art..

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   epsonok0posted 11 years ago

   What kills me is the hubber we all are referring too, has 25 simultaneous hubs. So anyone that thinks they dont get organic traffic is wrong. Some hubs have real titles and I found them in google searches. When i report him for stolen images, and improper content, I loose the community help accolade and about 3-10 points on my hub score. I have also been advised by anonymous emails to stop reporting him. Lets play fair if we are going to play. Frankly the fact that staff does not acknowledge this Hubber means some kind of strange deal is going on. The fact that I get threatening emails every time I report him or her, is also a strange thing.

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      rebekahELLEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

        It appears your own account is a sock puppet account.  Why are you so obsessed with this particular hubber?

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         Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

         me? lol... what is happening. Can I just go back 5 min. before I read this thread and was safe in my oblivion?

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            rebekahELLEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            no, not you. I replied to the OP.

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      HollieTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Why don't you show some screenshots of the emails that you have received? Surely that would be the way to deal with this when reporting him.

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   Beth37posted 11 years ago

   Oh good... ok, then Im gonna slip out the back door.

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   SmartAndFunposted 11 years ago

   I think any random Google user who found those parody hubs would get a good laugh. They are funny on their own, whether you are in on the parody part of it not. Those hubs are much better than the "Indian Aunty" hubs. Some of the aunty hubs hardly have any words at all, and feature nudity. I think "serious" Hubbers find it much more offensive to share a site with those dreadful articles.
   
   Have you ever heard of Shel Silverstein or read Runny Babbit? That book is hilarious, and it is nothing but goofy little rhymes with poor spelling and all kinds of funny innuendo.
   
   One of my hubs was parodied and I got a good laugh out of it.
   
   What is your reason for being so concerned about the parodies, Epsonok0?

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   calculus-geometryposted 11 years ago

   For all your talk of "serious" and "real" writers, epsonok0, I think a much better use of your time would be to proofread your own hubs to fix the spelling, grammar, and style issues.  Give you readers a good experience and don't waste time thinking about someone else's activities.
   
   Or just be a troll and spend all your energy on a sideshow.

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    Writer Foxposted 11 years ago

    He just deleted the Pinterest page.

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    Will Apseposted 11 years ago

    I missed this thread's development. Could someone tell me if I'm reading it right?
    
    1 Epsonok0 said he felt that another hubber was persecuting him (in a roundabout kind of way).
    
    2 WF outed him as gay.
    
    3 A lynch mob assembled and made fun of his beefcake collection
    
    4 Epsonok0 learned his lesson and left.

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       Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       It's high quality stuff.  Far too good for Bubblews of course and a much better use of time.
       
       Remind me how much you guys get paid for this?

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          Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          The wages of sin ...

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             HollieTposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             In other words Will, no, you are not reading right.

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       Writer Foxposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       No, I responded to Relache who outed the fact that he has a conflicting online presence where he "sometimes claims to be a woman and sometimes claims to be a gay man."  I never said he was gay.  That must be the conclusion you came to from viewing his Pinterest page. Then someone else in a comment on a Hub linked to an online profile on a page listing sex offender arrests. I wondered why you have such a problem getting your facts straight, then I Googled you and found that bubblews post about 'the meanest hubber of all making an apse of himself again.' The comments on that bubble were interesting and insightful.

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          Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          You need to do a lot better than this.

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             Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

             This is good enough for Corrie, eh?

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                Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                I'm going to suggest a new accolade, featuring pitchforks and firebrands.

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                   Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   You are definitely a supporter of the downtrodden... I can see it in your posts... and you accuse me of being a mother hen. I am going to give you the Mother Hen accolade.
                   
                   
                   Print it out and pin it to your coat.

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          relacheposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Epsonok0 was the one who first posted and said they sometimes posted as a man and sometimes as a woman, in the "tell us" thread that Beth37 started.  In that thread, the OP is a young woman named Jennifer/Jaty.
          
          And when I did a google search for "epsonok0," I found this profile on mingle2.com, where this person claimed to be a man, looking for other men.  In that profile, the name is still Jaty Robertson but now the person is a man in his early 30s.
          
          In response to the original question (again), I feel exactly the same way about joke or flame profiles as I do about this one/this person.

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    paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

    "Sorry that user no longer exists"...

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       Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Closed account. So if he/she has others, gone but not forgotten?

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          Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          The blood spilled should quiet the forums for a while.

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             Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Hush you.

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                Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Not every ill can be mothered away with a word or a gesture.

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                   Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   That would be silly... you need a magic wand.

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                      Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                      And from the moment that you realize mommy cannot fix everything, to the moment that you die...
                      
                      It gets no easier.

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                         Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                         Well that's a happy thought.

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    suzettenaplesposted 11 years ago

    I just checked your HP account and you no longer exist here on HP.

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