Question About Issues Associated With Unpublishing Hubs

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  1. Lisa HW profile image61
    Lisa HWposted 9 years ago

    (Maybe the answers to my questions is somewhere on HP;  but even if any answers are out there on the site; so many changes have been made in seven-and-a-half years, I wanted to get the absolute latest with regard the questions below):

    1.  If one unpublishes a Hub  and just "stores" it on their account here, does that solve the problem of getting the date the thing was written "on record"  AND being able to post that Hub somewhere else?

    2.  If "yes" is the answer to the question above, can that "somewhere else" then be one's other HubPages account (as opposed to, say, someone's own blog)?

    3.  Is there some time-frame with regard to, say, unpublishing and then posting somewhere else (particularly on one's own account under another name)?

    4.  Does a bunch of unpublished (as opposed to the matter of "unfeatured") Hubs further decrease a person's chances of getting traffic (to published Hubs, of course) either in HP's eyes/practices or Google's (which as far as I can tell aren't always the same thing)?

    5.  How long are unpublished Hubs allowed to remain unpublished before someone is expected (IF they're ever expected) to delete them?

    1. Elsie Hagley profile image68
      Elsie Hagleyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting questions, I will be interested in the answers myself as a exSquidoo writer.
      I updated my lens when we changed over to HubPages, but now anything older than 6 months that has not been updated again (the second time) are being unfeatured, I don't want to unpublish until I can get to them in case they get deleted.
      Have about 20 hubs of 120 unfeatured.roll

      1. Lisa HW profile image61
        Lisa HWposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        That's the thing.  I don't want to prematurely unpublish/delete something.  I did that before around May 2013 when there was the first (and at this point, kind of only) big push for "stellar" (as defined by what was being encouraged by the apprenticeship program).  I deleted a couple of hundred Hubs (at least); some of which I would have been better not to delete so quickly. 

        Of what I have left under this account (and it's almost like each Hub has its own, individual, issues), I'm trying to figure out what's worth trying to save (if much of anything) and what ought to just be deleted.   I'm trying to kind of de-emphasize this pen-name (and have another account on here - that's almost empty after a bunch of other deletions); but the messy state-of-affairs I have wih this account is kind of slowing me down with my aim to deal with emptiness of the other one.

        With unfeaturing (which I don't have a problem with, but which involves some stuff that I may want to do something else with), my problem with this account now isn't just old stuff or stuff that needs updating (or deleting), but I've reduced the whole thing down to few enough half-decent Hubs (barely any) because of deleting some (or one kind of another) prematurely in that May of 2013 (and some later) sweep of stuff that the old "stellar" had me thinking just did not belong on this site whatsoever any longer.

        Then, too, some of the old Hubs were stolen a number of times,  so they're out there and I want their original-writing dates "on record" (other than just in my own files0    Besides, with the mix of issues involved, it's all just a mind-0boggling mess.

        The killer is that I wasn't all that hit through a bunch of Pandas (and whatever else) until more toward the more recent changes (pre-Squidoo thing, when I saw an improvement in traffic); but the irony is that what I have that really ought to be deleted is the stuff that hasn't yet been unfeatured (for traffic, in my case) either because HP hasn't bothered with it yet or because it has at times at least got a view here or there.

        All that aside, I could have been earning much more on here over the last how-ever long if I hadn't deleted so much of that stuff prematurely.(and two years ago).  Part of me thinks I should just wipe out this whole account and start clean.  Then, though, there's the thing that my particular set of dilemmas is related to the age of my account on here, the evolution of Internet writing/HP over the years, and a number of potential "entanglement factors" that are related to the stuff I have on other sites/blogs, etc.  but that I've treated as "under the umbrella of 'all my casual, online writing'". (I've actually been in the process of pulling a lot of that other stuff in, or otherwise trying to bury it without deleting it); but that's a giant project.

        1. DzyMsLizzy profile image91
          DzyMsLizzyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Wow, Lisa--it sounds as if "giant project" is a world-class understatment!  I wish you all the best!

          I've been doing some 'cleanup,' albeit slowly.  I've unpublished a couple of hubs to do major re-writes, and have yet to get around to that.
          Meanwhile, I'm in a tangle of another sort, given that I'm now putting up a fair quantity of my old poems...and I'm finding that I already had some published here 4 years ago.  But, my brain is lucky to remember my own name some days, let alone what I did 4 years ago!  So, I've done some rapid-fire deletions of the older versions...which were duplicate content as far as the text went, but meanwhile, I found better photos.
          We struggle on...

          1. Lisa HW profile image61
            Lisa HWposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            We do struggle on, I guess.   roll      in fact, for any number of reasons (related to my online stuff and not related to it), I have those times when it takes everything I have to just not close all accounts everywhere and start clean, based on how things are now.  So far, I've managed to deal with those moods by putting a lot of stuff on "private" settings.  I've got - like - ten years' worth of stuff, though; and somehow I've been able to stop myself from wildly deleting everything everywhere.    What's compounded an already existing problem has been that in the last few months I've gone kind of wild and written a bunch of "whatever, wherever".  So, I've made an even bigger mess than ever!    lol

            I know everyone has their own demands/challenges in their own offline life (you've mentioned some of yours).  I don't know about you, but between life stuff and Internet changes over the last how-ever many years; I'm exhausted.  At this point (but even when I started here on HP), if I can't whip up off the top of my head something that's reasonably sound and useful and worth reading, it's not happening (as they say).  Further, it shows and I know it shows with what's left of my Hubs and with the fact that I don't just whip up some more and end all my own wheel-spinning.

            I've thought about writing a Hub about "living with exhaustiong" -but  I'm too exhausted to do that.    lol    lol    lol    (but I digress from the real matter at hand at this point.    roll  )

    2. peachpurple profile image81
      peachpurpleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It sure sounds like a major task, I did left unpublish hubs in my account over a year but it didn't affect the hub score but did appear the title in my profile

    3. Matthew Meyer profile image71
      Matthew Meyerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      >>1.  If one unpublishes a Hub  and just "stores" it on their account here, does that solve the problem of getting the date the thing was written "on record"  AND being able to post that Hub somewhere else?
      A Hub's published date will reflect the first time it was published on HubPages.
      I'm not sure what you mean by "on record"

      >>2.  If "yes" is the answer to the question above, can that "somewhere else" then be one's other HubPages account (as opposed to, say, someone's own blog)?
      You are permitted to move content from one account to another, but be careful of duplicate content.
      http://hubpages.com/faq/#how-to-transfer-content

      >>3.  Is there some time-frame with regard to, say, unpublishing and then posting somewhere else (particularly on one's own account under another name)?
      Yes, (see the FAQ links above for the procedure)

      >>4.  Does a bunch of unpublished (as opposed to the matter of "unfeatured") Hubs further decrease a person's chances of getting traffic (to published Hubs, of course) either in HP's eyes/practices or Google's (which as far as I can tell aren't always the same thing)?
      Unpublished means that no one can read the Hub, so yes, unpublishing Hubs could affect your traffic.

      >>5.  How long are unpublished Hubs allowed to remain unpublished before someone is expected (IF they're ever expected) to delete them?
      There is no requirement that unpublished Hubs be deleted.

 
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