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I just don't get HubScores

  1. promisem profile image98
    promisemposted 18 months ago

    I have read what HP has posted about HubScores plus quite a few forum postings on the subject over the last several years.

    If the scores are HP's way of judging quality, then I want to see a higher score if I can get one for a Hub that has potential. But I also throw together some Hubs that don't matter as much.

    So I write a short Hub of around 700 words and give it a few public domain photos. Not much effort goes into the quality of the writing or editing.

    Then I write a 1,500-word Hub with all original photos. I take much more time to write it and edit it. I make sure the Hub has proper grammar, no spelling mistakes, short sentences and paragraphs for reading ease, etc.

    It gets a LOWER HubScore. I wonder if anyone has had the same experience and can shed some light on what they think gets higher scores other than what I have mentioned above.

    1. jackclee lm profile image82
      jackclee lmposted 18 months agoin reply to this

      The hubscore is useless to us the writer and should be ignored. It is a metric that the Automated Quality Assessment process of HubPages generates as it goes through it's process. It is used to determine if a hub becomes featured or stays featured. It is not a rating of the quality of your writing which is a subjective determination. A human editor would give a totally different rating than HubScore.
      My recommendation to HubPages in the past is for them to rmove this metric and keep it private. It would serve all well and not confuse or cause concern.

      1. promisem profile image98
        promisemposted 18 months agoin reply to this

        Thanks for your response. I had the impression from the FAQ that it is part of a quality assessment.

  2. Millionaire Tips profile image93
    Millionaire Tipsposted 18 months ago

    You have been a member of HubPages for seven years, so you know that the scores have been debated for a long time.

    1. promisem profile image98
      promisemposted 18 months agoin reply to this

      Yes. it's just that a couple of recent Hubs had such a weirder response from the scoring system than usual.

      I was curious if anyone else had written what they thought were a high-quality Hub and a low-quality one and received a better score on the low-quality one.

  3. FatFreddysCat profile image99
    FatFreddysCatposted 18 months ago

    I stopped worrying about my Hubscore a loooooooooong time ago.

    1. promisem profile image98
      promisemposted 18 months agoin reply to this

      I see that response quite a bit on other threads. I understand why people are saying it if they feel the scores are inconsistent.

  4. earner profile image85
    earnerposted 18 months ago

    I never bother to look at my scores. Neither the article score, nor my author score.

    They're an internally generated algorithm that suit the needs and measurements of the hubpages company ... they're kind of an indicator, if you wish, of whether something's a real dud or a real star ... but nothing more.

    Too many unknown variables that could affect it - and you can't seize it and force an article to become a 100 as that'd just chew up your time when you could've been concentrating on either none of them, another/better one, writing some new material, or going down the pub.

  5. Marisa Wright profile image98
    Marisa Wrightposted 18 months ago

    A few years ago there was a very honest discussion about scores on the forums by two moderators, neither of whom are employed by HubPages any more. I'd go so far as to say they were the best team members HP ever had, enormously helpful and always honest and fair. 

    They both admitted that the scoring system was flawed, to the point where it was best ignored. However they said management wasn't willing to abandon the system until they could develop a better one, and there were always other jobs that took priority. 

    Then the founder of the site came on the forums to say he loved the scoring system - and there was no more discussion...

    1. promisem profile image98
      promisemposted 18 months agoin reply to this

      Maybe the purpose and methods of the system are secret even to staffers.

  6. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image98
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 18 months ago

    I guess I'll throw my two cents into this here buskers hat.

    I've had a score of 99 before. And that lasted about a day. I rarely get past 96, and if and whenever I do, I'm never sure why. I also don't recall the last time I was below 90, but I've spent over a year at a time having avoided the internet entirely.

    Well, from what I can tell the high score has to do with 1. content being at a certain level and also performing well. and 2. Use of the site. Total use of the site, I think, gets people to 100. People who use the forums, do the good content deal, and also do hub hopping and question answering, they get the high scores.

    Granted my sample size and skills of observation are not astrophysicist level observations. But true story - the high score is a nice ornamental thing like flowers or fancy clothes. I'm only ever really thinking about how I can make more money here. And just which angle should I pursue in writing in order to make more money than the month before. But hey, I'm so poor that's what I should be thinking about.

  7. Marisa Wright profile image98
    Marisa Wrightposted 18 months ago

    Wes is absolutely right that PARTICIPATION in the site is a big part of Hubberscore. 

    I very rarely write a new Hub but I am active on the forums etc and that's what keeps my score high.

  8. ILoveLegosToo profile image79
    ILoveLegosTooposted 18 months ago

    It really is too bad that a Hub score doesn't individually reflect the quality of hub and instead takes into account your Hubber score.  It would help tremendously in prioritizing what to improve.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image98
      Marisa Wrightposted 18 months agoin reply to this

      You are right, and I've never been able to understand how that works.

      They say HubberScore is based on the average of all our HubScores, plus site participation.

      And that our individual HubScores are based on our HubberScore, plus quality assessments.

      I still can't fathom how they're able to do that without getting the whole algorithm into an endless loop!

      Maybe that's why the whole thing has never really made sense....

  9. Paxash profile image97
    Paxashposted 18 months ago

    I'm very new to writing hubs and it's somewhat of a relief to hear that the score is more reflective of participation (which I have yet to really do) than the quality of what I've been writing.

    Though at the same time, what's the point of making the score available to see in that case? It doesn't make sense to me.

  10. Will Apse profile image92
    Will Apseposted 18 months ago

    Hubscore matters according to this:

    To be moved to a niche:

    *Articles should meet our definition of an 8 or better in our Informational Writing Scale.

    I am guessing 8 means 80.