Choosing to let HPpro edit your hub.

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   NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years ago

   Who here has accepted the offer to have a nearly successful hub edited by the team? What did you think of the finished product, would you do it again?

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      Coffeequeeenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Well no, I don't mind my hubs being edited.  Sometimes, even when I re-read my articles, there are little mistakes I sometimes miss.  I've always been happy with the way they've corrected my hubs.

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         NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I knew this article was on an edit queue for the past few months and was sent an wmail after submitting it for niche. The email said it was good and ready for the verticle site and like other forum conversations I've seen recommended a few areas to work on with the choice to resubmit or leave it and have it edited.
         I agreed this article had flow issues so Ive been keeping an eye out for this to happen and stopped playing with it. I really wanted to see where to set the bar for other hubs and look at how they like things. Ive just been emailed and its now finished. I love what they did and was interested to see some sections which I had changed according to advice from a 'help fix my hub ' forum - be refigured back to its original format.
         Another interesting point was that the spelling is now americanised (-ized? Lol) which I thought didnt make a difference. Ill be interested to see if I change a few other hubs to have that - if it increases its score.
         Overall its a great edit - small changes, a bit of moving stuff around and deleting waffle. Only one tweak they gave it made me unhappy but Ill think about why they did it and may even email them to ask as its a consistent in my review process I thought was cool. (My personal rating is out of 5 but refers to a part of the movie) eg if the movie was about ice, i would give it 5 frozen shards out of 5. Small point though I guess. Maybe its better straight forward.

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      Glenis Rixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I had a few articles edited by a hub pro in the past. The alterations were minor corrections, mostly for typo errors, and I was happy to have the input. Nowadays I edit with grammarly (even though I get on-screen messages that it isn't supported) and find that the input from a hub pro is less frequent.
      
      P.S. I write standard English and like other UK commentators am slightly irritated if it is later Americanised. But it's their site so I accept that it's something I have to put up with.

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         NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I use Grammarly and Ginger extensions now as well. Good tools.
         I have now gone back and Americanized my spelling, I dont mind either, just needs to be cited somewhere I think to save time going back over things.
         Its cool having editors to work with. Almost like being part of a remote team!

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   Marisa Wrightposted 7 years ago

   You don't get a choice whether a Hub undergoes HubPro or not - it just happens.

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      NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, apart from when they randomly edit a title or tweak some capsules, you get a heads up that it has entered the queue, you then have the choice to give it an overhaul and re-submit this deffering any editing by them and pushing your article further back in the queue. You could do this for months if you didnt want it changed in entirety so I beg to differ. Thanks for answering the question though.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         That's true, but the point is that you don't get to say, "I don't want you to touch my Hub, I want to leave it exactly the way it is".   You either change it yourself or let them change it.   It's true that if you do nothing, they may not touch it for months, but that would be self-defeating - because it would mean the Hub wouldn't get moved to the niche site.

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   Rupert Taylorposted 7 years ago

   Editors are hired for good reasons. No matter how perfect you think your copy is it will always benefit from being reviewed by a competent editor.

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      NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Personally I was excited it was ready for niche. Being a new writer I could only think it would help me to have it reviewed.

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   theraggededgeposted 7 years ago

   They've stopped doing that thing where they added weird cartoony images and adding whole passages of text, haven't they?

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      NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I would be furious if they did that. They didnt add much at all, only take out inconsistencies and sentences which didnt add value. No cartoony images to be seen.

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   AshutoshJoshi06posted 7 years ago

   From a beginner's perspective, its a good thing, pros may think otherwise. One of my new hub was recently picked up for a niche site and simultaneously for hub pro editing(first one). I must say, I am glad it happened. I wouldn't have noticed those mistakes otherwise.

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      NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Its gone to niche. Yay. Pretty stoked. My first one finally made it.

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         Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         That doesn't surprise me at all, you deserve it.
         
         If there's anything you don't like about their edits, be aware that you're free to change it back.   Provided you're not adding links or Amazon products, they are OK with it. 
         
         As RaggedEdge says, at one time they were making much bigger changes to Hubs, especially adding in their own choice of MFP images.   Sometimes they made changes which changed the meaning of the text.  However we have to remember that the HubPro editors aren't professional editors, and I think they just took a while to settle into the job.  Things seem to be going more smoothly now.

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            NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks! Does the niche copy change if you revert something back. I would think they are linked, but wouldnt they pull anything that was changed to ensure ppl arent doing anything silly?

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               Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               There isn't a "niche copy".  Your Hub has been moved to a new URL on the niche site  - Google may still show the old HubPages.com version for a while, but that will disappear as soon as the index has been updated.
               
               No, they won't pull anything that was changed, provided you don't do something that's against the rules.
               
               For instance, on one of my Hubs, HubPro removed an Amazon product which I thought was important to the Hub.  So I put it back.  All they did was snip it out again - the Hub wasn't "pulled".  I then sent them an email explaining why I wanted it to stay, and they accepted my argument. 
               
               On another occasion, I had a Hub moved to HealDove and they inserted several paragraphs about contraindications and doctor's warnings.   I didn't like the way it was presented because some of the "contraindications"  were based on debatable science, so I rewrote that whole section from scratch.  The Hub is still on HealDove, and I've heard nothing more.  That was months ago.
               
               So, in summary, if I feel something needs to be changed back, I change it.  If they don't like it, they'll let me know.
               
               Some Hubbers take a different approach, and email the team every time they want to change something back.  I feel like that's wasting the team's time, since my experience is that they usually don't mind.

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                  NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Yeah, I think I will change that one tiny bit back. It's my stamp.

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                     Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     I agree, I really like your review award system!

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      NessMovieReviewsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Oh and yes I have seen some seasoned hubbers upset at changes when they report to be better than the 'pro' which I can understand. Maybe one day, I'll get there too. Growing as a writer is what I'm aiming for, so this process has been useful to me.

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