Is there a way to disapprove changes made by editors?

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  1. Shesabutterfly profile image93
    Shesabutterflyposted 6 years ago

    I have an article that an editor has made substantial changes too. Including adding a bio that they wrote themselves. I have not seen an edit this bad in quite some time on one of my articles, and I do not want to go through the whole article and rewrite half of it. I've already spent countless hours rewriting this article to get it up to standards, in order to submit it to a niche site. I should not have to go back in and edit, because an editor decided it was their job to change my wording and add capsules I never had.

    If this is how it's going to be now, I will not be submitting any more articles to the niche sites.

    1. Christy Kirwan profile image93
      Christy Kirwanposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Shesabutterfly,

      I just took a look at your article. You're referring to Finding a Pet: Where to Get a Cat, is that right?

      It looks like the changes the editor made were minimal and she/he only did what was necessary in order to accept the article onto PetHelpful (corrected some grammar errors, put the title into APA case, and added a section to reflect that declawing is no longer recommended for the pet cat's health and safety).

      The editor did add a short, simple bio with info pulled from various places on your HubPages account. Please feel free to change it to better reflect your expertise with pet adoption, but the article will need a bio that adds credibility in order to remain on PetHelpful.

      As always, you are welcome to revert the changes the editor has made. Please just be aware that the edits are necessary for acceptance onto PetHelpful and the article will likely be moved back to HubPages if it is reverted. If you'd rather not have your articles considered for inclusion on Network Sites, please let me know and we can exclude your account from editing and article selection.

      1. Shesabutterfly profile image93
        Shesabutterflyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Yes that is the article I am talking about. I already deleted all of the information that the editor added. Adding two capsules and rearranging my photos is more than making minimal changes. All of my photos are of the same quality so there was no need to change them around.

        S/he also added two sentences that I had not stated anywhere in the article. They may have related to what I had already said about declawing, but I do not appreciate someone else adding their own ideas into my article. Especially ideas that I do not agree with. They did not need to add their own section about declawing, I had already covered it. If my information was not enough I could have added more.

        If it needs a bio that adds credibility than I should have received an e-mail so I could add one. The bio created by the editor in no way adds credibilty to my article and therefore should not have been enough to get my article moved to the niche site.

        I have no problem with my articles being moved to niche sites. What I have a problem with is an editor injecting their own ideas into my articles.

        1. Christy Kirwan profile image93
          Christy Kirwanposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I've looked the article over in its current form and talked with some of the senior editors; we're ok with it staying on PetHelpful as-is. But would you please include a bio that explains your interest in, experience with, or expertise on pets?

  2. RGraf profile image88
    RGrafposted 6 years ago

    I would be interested to know that as well. I just read one where a whole section was deleted and then several sentences completely reworded. It wasn't my work in the end.

  3. ReViewMeMedia profile image86
    ReViewMeMediaposted 6 years ago

    I always save my writing on my computer,I had an editor rewrite my article so badly it didn't sound like me anymore, needless to say, I got angry and left them angry feedback, but I rewrote their edits and reinserted my original writing back into my article, they haven't messed with my article with crazy edits ever since I left the RAGING feedback on the article they butchered, and I told them they butchered my article too.

    1. Shesabutterfly profile image93
      Shesabutterflyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I have a saved pdf file of the article, but I don't actually write in word or anything. I should really start doing that. I will be sending them an e-mail as I don't think it's ever okay to write a bio for someone. Especially one that is broad and doesn't bring any value or credibility to the article.

      1. wilderness profile image95
        wildernessposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Did you already have a bio on it, and they took it off to write a different one?  If not, I think that is a requirement for niche sites and you probably owe that editor a "Thank you" for doing what they could to provide one so the hub can be moved.

        But yes, you can undo any changes they made: you own the hub, after all.  It just won't be moved and may be unpublished as well.

        1. Shesabutterfly profile image93
          Shesabutterflyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          No I did not have a bio already on it. It is not required to have bio's to be on the niche sites. I have several on a variety of different niche sites that do not contain bio's yet and they are still on them, and where moved with no bio's.

          The editor does not deserve a "thank you" for writing a one sentence crappy bio. Like I said, if they wanted one, they could have sent me an e-mail asking me to add one like other editors have done for articles previously.

          I know I can remove/change edits, I've changed minor edits back with no issues of my articles being moved back to the main site. However, in this case I did not want to go through the hassle of rearranging and re-editing some major changes that should have never happened.

          1. Marisa Wright profile image85
            Marisa Wrightposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            The new rule is that they must have a bio. They're not going back and adding them to articles already moved, but they do require them for new ones.

            Write to team @ to complain. They've just hired a bunch of new editors. Last time they did that, some of the new hires were overstepping the mark and Robin thanked us for letting her know.

            1. Shesabutterfly profile image93
              Shesabutterflyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              When did this new rule come into effect? I've had articles moved the last week of December with no bio. I also had an article moved to a niche site from another one and they didn't have me add a bio before accepting it on the new niche site. I've also had articles reviewed in January (to ensure they met quality standards) and they didn't have me add a bio. They also didn't add their own. If bio's are now required, why are we not being told to add them after they do quality checks to ensure that our articles are still meeting their standards? I've had things snipped because of quality checks (due to new rules/changes), if they snip/edit content why are they not bothering with the bio's?

              In the mean time I'll add bio's to all the new articles I submit from here on out. I still think a quick e-mail would have been nice. Most of the editors that I've worked with who think substantial changes need to be made send me an e-mail and I make the changes myself. Including telling me which articles they think would benefit from a bio. I responded to the e-mail, but I will send an e-mail to the address you have listed as well.

  4. RGraf profile image88
    RGrafposted 6 years ago

    I'm confused as to why they rewrite complete sentences? I just had one that had a whole section modified quite a bit and didn't sound like me afterwards. Also, I have where typos are corrected on some and others they just say need to be fixed. One article I found where there was one thing wrong, they stated that they wanted me to re-edit it. I feel like instead of helping us, they are just pointing out it is not good enough and moving on. We then have no idea what the real issues are. That is not how a good editor works. When I first had edits done, I found them very beneficial. Now I get one sentence to tell me in a general and vague sense that I need to fix it.

    I have seen the threads where they are looking into it.

    1. Shesabutterfly profile image93
      Shesabutterflyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed! I'm finding edits where whole sections are being reworded or sentences are having major structure changes (which can change the meaning or idea of it) before articles are being moved to niche sites. On the other hand I'm getting the vague description e-mails for articles that are denied. There seems to be no inbetween anymore. When I first started applying to get articles moved I would get an e-mail about specific things that needed edits, or they would fix grammar/spelling mistakes and move the article. Nothing like this current edit, or what I've seen other authors post about in other threads should be happening from editors. I agree a good editor should not be rewriting and changing things to make it sound different than how the author has wrote it.

      This editor took the liberty of adding new thoughts to this article that were not articulated anywhere in my article. I deleted everything I didn't like already, but I'll have to go back in and do some more edits as well as add a useful bio.

      Maybe I'll just stick to one niche site for now, as I have a good relationship with the main editor there and I know what to expect if I submit my articles to that niche site.

      1. Jean Bakula profile image92
        Jean Bakulaposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I wouldn't stand for an editor (maybe a new one) adding new thoughts to an article I wrote. That's going too far.

        I've complained often about changes editors made, especially if they didn't understand my topic as well as I did, and it changed the meaning. I have also written to the team when they took out links that were necessary to the article as well.

        If it's something so major, I would write in and make my case. They are often very cooperative and it could be a misunderstanding with a new editor. Right now I am working on Sources to get a dozen articles off of Exemplore and onto Owlcation, where they belonged in the first place. I do have to put more effort in, since I wrote them 6 years ago, and have to backtrack on the Sources. But nobody touched my writing.

        On the other hand, if it's a simple change they make, sometimes it's not worth the time and effort. But do write in and explain yourself, for the most part I always find the staff is reasonable. They are also overworked.

        I believe the bios are necessary now. Good luck.

  5. Rock_nj profile image91
    Rock_njposted 6 years ago

    Very frustrating.  Sorry you are dealing with this.  I haven't had them make substantial edits to one of my articles in a while.  When they did, I was sincerely upset about some of the changes that did not make any sense in the context of the article. I was able to get them to revert it back to the way it was once I pointed out to them that what they changed it to was incorrect.  It was an utter waste of my time since they obviously didn't know what they were writing about when they made the edits, but at least they restored it once I pointed out to them their errors.

    I would not be happy about them creating a bio for me.  That's up to me IMO.

    1. janshares profile image94
      jansharesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Same thing happened to me 2 days ago. I replied to the same email notification and got a response the next day. Robin agreed that the sentence didn't make sense and offered a better sentence to replace the bad one. I was satisfied but concerned that the editor didn't see the glaringly incorrect use of grammar and sentence structure. hmm ???
      Edit: Not my bio, a sentence within a text capsule.

  6. Gregory DeVictor profile image95
    Gregory DeVictorposted 6 years ago

    Over the past twenty-four hours, my latest hub was moved to However, the editor recommended that I change the title of the hub from what it was to something else. I immediately saw the logic and complied with the request without having a self-pity party.

  7. Robin profile image86
    Robinposted 6 years ago

    Please feel free to go in and make changes to your bio.  When we are adding bios, we find information from your articles or profile—we shouldn't be putting words in your mouth, so to speak.  We would love for you to include a more specific bio!  Thanks!

    As for the changes, I know that it is difficult to see edits made to your articles, and we try our best to not change your meaning.  I'm so sorry if we did.  For some of the edits, they were necessary for the article to make it to a Network Site, e.g title not in APA, grammar mistakes in the first Text Capsule, subtitle mistakes.  As a side note, the callout was added as a warning.  The editor thought it was necessary for the readers to know these points.  I hope that you keep the changes; I do think they make the article better.   That being said, I do think there were a few edits that didn't need to happen (e.g., a change in word choice that wasn't absolutely necessary,) and I will discuss them with the editor. 

    Our goal is to work with authors to make sure our articles have EAT (Expertise, Authoritativeness, and Trustworthiness).  A good bio, a clean error-free first Text Capsule, consistent APA format, warnings if needed, etc, are all important for this metric.

    1. Shesabutterfly profile image93
      Shesabutterflyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I am in no way complaining about the minor edits. I completely understand the apa format and the spelling/grammar mistakes. I left all of those changes. I occassionally have those changes when articles are moved, those are no big deal. I don't always catch them as I'm still unsure about some apa format rules.

      What I have a major problem with is this bit of information that was added. "Declawing is rarely considered except in instances when an individual is immune-compromised. All declawed cats should be kept indoors as their ability to survive outdoors will be hindered". No where did I ever mention anything remotely close to those words. If the callout is meant to be a warning (I don't see it that way) then I will consider adding it back, but I will find a different place for it. The way the editor set the article up makes it look choppy and terrible on mobile devices.

      I have no problem adding a bio. I don't think it's necessary for an editor to create one. I get e-mails often asking me to make changes and resubmit my article. If you want articles that have EAT, then I need to create my own bio. Not have one that is only a sentence long and does not add anything to the article.

  8. Kierstin Gunsberg profile image95
    Kierstin Gunsbergposted 6 years ago

    Hey. Shesabutterfly! You can go through and change back the edits smile I will say though, I had a LOT of my articles edited a couple of years ago - titles, bios, whole paragraphs. I'm so thankful to the editors because now I'm making MONEY whereas my writing was just sitting there earning nothing. I know the edits seem arbitrary and offensive at first but if you do want to make money here then I would trust the editors.

    1. Shesabutterfly profile image93
      Shesabutterflyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I do trust most of the editors. However, if new thoughts or major changes are going to be added to my articles I'm not going to be okay with that. I get e-mails frequently from editors telling me what needs to be changed before it can get moved to a niche site. I make the changes and resubmit. It's easy and my work stays my work. When an editor goes in and adds their own ideas, I'm not okay with that. This is not about the simple edits, it's about changing the way the article reads, is layed out, and ultimately about adding information that is not mine.

      Others may not care about those types of edits, but when I'm not included in major changes done to my work it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I'm all for making more money and appreciate minor edits that are done. Sometimes after reading the same article for the hundreth time I miss spelling mistakes and sentences that are not grammatically correct.

  9. Tinsky profile image91
    Tinskyposted 6 years ago

    I recently had to fix an editor's formatting error. I just fixed it. I wasn't sure how to communicate with the editors as there was only the standard editor's email when I received the notification of the quick edit.  I had some words in single parenthesis (a style preference in Australia) and they decided to change one end of the parenthesis to double parenthesis. It was a little messy.  I didn't mind it changing to double but it should have been done at both ends. The only other change to the article came just after the parenthesis. It seemed to reflect more of a word choice, but it also gave the sentence a slightly different meaning which didn't entirely hold true to the historical account that I was writing about. I just left it as is, as I didn't know how to communicate with the editors since it just had the standard editors email. And a previous attempt to communicate via this email a couple of years ago resulted in no response.

  10. Marsei profile image89
    Marseiposted 6 years ago

    Figured I should chime in because my experience has been positive.  They have done a few minor edits to maybe make a sentence clearer.  I've never had a major change made.  I had a different opinion on a punctuation change they made and Robyn (Robin?) agreed and told me to change it back.  I've always found them approachable and fair.  I would definitely just write to them about any issues.

    1. janshares profile image94
      jansharesposted 6 years agoin reply to this


    2. theraggededge profile image97
      theraggededgeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Mine too. I've only once or twice had an issue. Sometimes I'll change it back straight away, other times I'll let it go with the edits to see if it works better. For example I was recently asked to change a title because it sounded a little awkward. So I changed it as per their suggestion. However, traffic fell away because the title was no longer in the keyword order that I'd determined was best. So I've just changed it back and traffic has picked up again. But overall, I've benefited from the editors' input.

  11. Lorelei Nettles profile image85
    Lorelei Nettlesposted 6 years ago

    I too always write in Word first and retain a copy. I don't have too much of a complaint about the editing. I don't always agree with it however and on two articles they have edited quotes. I always revert those. They are not my writing they are quotes and should be left as they are.

  12. Natalie Frank profile image91
    Natalie Frankposted 6 years ago

    I will also state that the articles that I've had edit to for the most part were helpful, caught typos I didn't notice, and improved the article.  On occasion I've had edit which change word choice which also changed meaning, pictures and links deleted for no apparent reason and Amazon capsules deleted despite clearly following the rules for including them (e.g. A first person review of the product which I had direct experience with and which was mentioned several times in the article proper).  My main concern is the vague emails which provide no information other than "fix this" which does not give the author the ability to directly address the editors concerns.  I realize it takes time to provide feedback but this is part of an editors job and now that there are more editors on board it definitely should be something that is required of editors when rejecting an article for a niche site or not featuring a HP article.  I do think the editors are generally skillful and that their goals is to improve the quality of HP content, which will improve overall readership, sharing of articles, benefiting all HP authors.  I'd like to say thank you to the editors for this and know that there is a learning curse and they will become consistent in their editing over time.  We all just have to be patient while posing questions calmly and respectfully, so the editors and authors can all work together in the most effective and satisfying manner possible.


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