Is it realistic to make $40 a day off of 10,000 views daily give or take? Before HubPages suffered from Google Algorithm updates in 2012; I remember doing very well with views on another account, but I don't think my CPM was that high. I pretty much semi-retired from writing on HP during 2014-2016 & many changes have been made since then.
Doesn't the CPM range from 2-5 dollars? Has the overall CPM improved across the board on Hubpages? Well, I guess it's the niche sites now.
CPM can make an astronomical difference in regards to earning potential.
That seems doable. I have sometimes made $5 in a day from around 1000 views.
Do you realize that you are talking about getting 300,000 views per month? That's one heck of a lot of views! I don't know of many people here who get that many or who earn that much daily, but if you think you can achieve that goal, go for it!
On on another account back in 2011; I hit 10,000 - 15,000 views for several months before taking a major blow from changes in Google Algorithms. It sucked because I was doing so well. Now HP has niche sites and has changed to keep up with Google.
I was hellbent on those goals, though. And a bit lucky along with some consistent writing work.
1000 views gets you around $4, so 10,000 views becoming $40 sounds realistic enough, as long as people are still clicking on the ads at the same rate.
1000 doesn't always get people $4...that amount can vary significantly because CPM is based on how much advertisers bid to have their ads placed on your pages. Some people get far less, regardless of the number of hubs they write, some make far more. Much depends on how searchable your topic is, who places ads etc. There is no one set formula.
Also, outside forces influence readership. Right now, for example, people are busy getting ready for Thanksgiving and many don't have time to search the net. On the other hand, if you have produced articles with recipes for Thanksgiving, you might do very well right now.
You have to write really well, write evergreen, lure readers in with great titles, etc., etc. It took me years to figure out how things work here, and I still can't explain all of it.
The bottom line is that while we all like to earn, HP has said again and again that we should not plan on earning big amounts of money here and should not make earning our main goal. I think that is wise counsel.
CPM's have been above average for the last 4 months or so, sometimes way above average (at the moment my CPM's are double what they were this time last year), so yes it's definitely possible.
Having looked at the responses here, I'm seeing a lot of "probablies", "I think you cans" and "mights". I'd like to hear from someone who has actually done this!
I had stated "Yes, you can do this". No might or probably.
I didn't say "all " of the responses, but you must admit that this is what most said. I don't know how you can say without doubt that someone can do this, even though you may have achieved it yourself. You know as well as I do how how fickle Google and advertisers can be and how much competition is out there. All I am saying is that I'd like to hear from someone with that many daily views (not more, not less) has been able to achieve this. Are you saying you have done this?
Yes, almost every day. Is it probable? Not likely, for as you point out Google can be fickle. Is it a realistic goal? Definitely.
OK...but you must admit that you are a professionally educated person with expertise in your niche which is one that is extremely popular. You also have well over 200 hubs online. Very few who write here can say that, so while you've been able to achieve this goal, (which, by the way I think is great) I suspect that very few other writers can or ever will. Would be nice if they could and is nice that people shoot for that goal, but the probability clearly is slim.
I have hit that goal and more from time to time myself but only because my Amazon sales are sometimes extremely good. Another thing to point out to writers here is that if you aren't writing evergreen articles, any successes such as this will be spotty and may also be fleeting.
In your case (and mine) this isn't much of a problem.
Yes, I have almost 300 articles here. Several years ago, when new to the internet, I asked how many people treated this like a full time job. Everyone who answered told me it was just a hobby, for coffee money. If this HP effort is treated seriously, and the person has decent English skills, I do not think it is vital that you be professionaly educated or write in a popular niche. (I think my expertise helps when answering questions, since I do this a lot, not really necessary for writing hubs.)
Alas, I do not make much off of Amazon sales. I do work on my titles a lot and make sure that they answer questions that people search for. Google sees fit to place a lot of them on the first page since the material is usually helpful. (I always try, at least.)
So I still think that this is a realistic goal, for anyone that is willing to work at it.
(I am not sure if crazyhorsesghost is still on HP, but that was a person who did treat this like a full time job, and he made a good full time income here an at other sites.)
He sure did! Just reading what he did tired me right out lol!
I'm amazed you don't do well on Amazon. I would think there'd be a ton of dog related products you could sell. With your niche, the right ads could easily double your income!
I do not have that many capsules, and then only if they are for an ophthalmic ointment I recommend, first aid supplies, a medicated shampoo, etc. A few people have tried to help me out with that issue over the years but I just cannot justify adding many products. (I usually recommend homemade natural food, natural cures, etc. Not exactly Amazon material, am I!)
I don't have many, either, and I have far fewer hubs than you do. I never advertise products that people can easily hop over to the store and buy, either. However, there are other dog products besides medical ones that you may be able to "Amazon". For example, the best dog safety harness. I sell this one myself and use a video to show how it did in actual tests against other brands.
I know you do well here financially, but it's a shame to have so many hubs and make so little from sales. You've put a lot of hard work into your hubs, I know, so you deserve to have the greatest level of benefit as possible while still maintaining integrity and credibility.
Your choice, of course,but to me views and ads go hand in hand in many cases when it comes to creating income. You only need a few good ads here and there to make this work for you because each one is a portal through which readers pass and sometimes start shopping for other items. You earn on every single item they buy during that session. Worth a shot, don't you think?
Thanks for those words, that is definitely something to think about.
Do you have any idea how HP treats hubs on niche sites that have Amazon capsules added to them later, after they have already been moved? Most of my hubs are already on Pethelpful. If I added Amazon capsules to some of them, would they get moved back to HP main site?
No, they wouldn't. If the staff don't like what you've added, they'll simply snip it. However, if the product is relevant and you're able to give a personal recommendation, it's likely to be fine.Especially if you use a link rather than a capsule.
That would be okay; I would not mind much if they just snip it.
Since I do not add Amazon products very often, can you recommend a tutorial on how to add products using a link instead of a capsule. (I am sure I have read this before, but no longer remember how to do it.)
Thank you for the input.
It's really easy to do. Just highlight the name of the product, click the little link chain at the top of the hub tool, click on Amazon and find the product you showed and click on it. Make sure to mention why you are suggesting that product as opposed to similar types and/or why you use or have used it. That's it!
If your product does not appear on the list they provide, go to Amazon, search it out, open the detail page, copy its URL and put that in the space at the top of the form that shows up when you click the link icon and save.
I made a few changes, a then today HP came along and snipped them all , including Amazon capsule that was helpful and made a lot of sales each month.
How do you add your personal recommendation if the product is only highlighted? When adding a capsule, I always added the information in a text capsule and placed it by the side. I am not able to see how to do this if the word is only highlighted.
When using a capsule, there is a section you can click on where you can add information right in the capsule. You then can also add a blurb about the product within the text.
When just using inline text, you have to add wordage around the highlighted product that states your opinions, etc.
Check out my hub about cleaning your RV's black water tank and you'll see what I mean. It's on my profile page at the top on the slider.
To keep products within any hub, you must place it properly, give more description than what is in the Amazon capsule, say why you recommend it, etc. If you did not do this, yes, you'll get snipped!
Aaargh! Frustrating, isn't it?
If you're using a link instead of a capsule, then obviously that link is in a sentence. That sentence needs to say something like, "I recommend [Amazon product] because [reason]" - or if not in that sentence, you need to say something similar in the previous or next sentence.
Note how TT2 does it. It's vital to use the words "I", "my" or "mine" in your recommendation, e.g. "I recommend...." or "my favourite is...." or "for my money, .... is the best brand to use". Write it in impersonal terms (e.g. "this brand is the market leader and recommended by the Veterinarians Association) and it will get snipped.
Don't be afraid to re-insert the products. I've got one Hub where I re-inserted the products three times! It wasn't moved back to the main site, or unpublished, or anything else dramatic.
I was close to that amount with about 2/3 of 10,000 views so it's definitely possible. A CPM of 8+ should do the trick for 10K views.
Yes, you can do this, and make a lot more if you want to spend some time posting some evergreen articles.
That seems realistic to me, based on what I make a day on a lot less daily views.
I think it would depend on your CPM. Recently I have seen my CPM going as high as $18. In such a situation, I would say you could make more than $40. Even at the lower end, I think you would make at least that. If you are lucky and get amazon sales, you could of course significantly increase that figure!
Generally when traffic goes up, on HP, CPM goes down.
CPM as high as $18 what!? That sounds extremely high. $20/day is 600 in a month already.
You're very unlikely to get that much on 1000's of daily views.
HP seem to give those accounts with very low views high CPM's but they're only earning cents. e.g. 50 views at $18 CPM = 90 cents.
I'm getting around 11,000 views per day at the moment and my CPM's are no where near $18, but they are very decent.
Need to be careful here about citing specific figures. It's against the TOS and can get you banned.
If the CPM stays as high as it is now then you could probably make double that with 10K views.
You are right TimeT.,There are so many variables. Is it possible? Yes, of course? Have people done it? For sure. Is it probable? That depends on the many variables. Everyone has to find out for themselves.
I've achieved this last Nov-Dec with relative ease. Like I said you don't even need that many views to hit 40 as long as the CPMs are relatively high.
With the above average values now, you just need 6-8K views per day to reach 40+.
Although I'm curious to know if that 40 target is good enough for hubbers. Personally my goal would be 100+ per day.
Just an update on the original post: I managed to get 10,000 views yesterday but I got nowhere near $40. It was all on one article, which might have had something to do with it.
But you will today Earnings are 24 hours behind traffic, if you know what I mean?
Who said earnings come 24 hours behind traffic? Never heard that before? Explain please?
I think what raggededge means is that the earnings for yesterday only just updated....earnings aren't shown in real time but lag a good 14 hrs or more.
Yes, that's what I mean. Poppyr said she got the views 'yesterday', but she wouldn't see the earnings for yesterday until today, when the stats update.
That sounds very unusual, I guess it depends where your traffic comes from or maybe where you're currently located even (country).
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