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North Korea

  1. The Shark profile image60
    The Sharkposted 8 years ago

    The idea that a foreign country could threaten to launch a missle at the United States and our response is to send an anti missle ship is astounding! Could anyone picture No Korea threatning us with such an attack if Bush was still President?
    I believe we would send the anti missle ship with the warning, if you launch a missle at US territory, we will consider this hostile act that will require an appropriate respone.
    This diplomacy of "reaching out" is nothing more than weakness.
    It's going to be a long 3.5 years!
    The Shark---taking a bite out of liberalism

  2. bgpappa profile image83
    bgpappaposted 8 years ago

    If they fire a missle, we blow them up. They haven't fired anything yet.  Should we invade their Country like Bush did?

    1. tksensei profile image60
      tksenseiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      When did President Bush invade NK? Are you sure you're not thinking of a South Park episode?

    2. The Shark profile image60
      The Sharkposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I know one thing, we did what this country understood a long time ago, you take the fight to them. They took it to us 5 times under the Clinton admin., the world trade center (the 1st hit), two differnt embassies in Africa, and the USS Cole. Bin Laden knew he had a paper tiger in the US, that was til he met W. Bin Laden said he considerd Iraq the beachfront in the war on terror against the US, He used the word war, so I guess he considerd his group at war. So I'm going with Bin Laden on this one. (Your fearless leader has quitely sent 35,000 troops into Afghanastin---funny I don't see the loser protestors on that.
      The Koreans now know they have a paper tiger in Obama, which is why they threatend a launch toward Hawaii. So I guess we should wait and when we have a ground Zero in Hawaii we can negotiate surreder. Did Iran attack Isreal before Isreal took out her nuclear reactors the first time? So I guess that was illegal too.
      And where exactly did Germany attack us before we entered WWII?
      But under your weak argument, I guess those ovens in Auswitch really weren't any of our business.
      The Shark---taking a bite out of stupidity

  3. bgpappa profile image83
    bgpappaposted 8 years ago

    I was referring to Iraq and the proposed threat they were and the Bush Doctrine.

    I just don't think making it clear that whatever they try won't work is a bad idea.  The implied deterrent is the consequence if they actually fire.  If Obama does nothing then, the Right can start saber rattling and with justification.  But to claim that Obama should act like Bush is just too far out there in my humble opinion.

  4. tksensei profile image60
    tksenseiposted 8 years ago

    So you're saying we have to wait until they try to hit Hawaii with a missle? Not sure that's a sound strategy.

  5. RKHenry profile image77
    RKHenryposted 8 years ago

    Honestly, does anyone believe they have that capability.  There long range missiles are still blowing up in their own air space.  Technically, I don't believe one of their missiles has made it passed their own borders.  I'm not sure about this- so is that correct?

  6. tksensei profile image60
    tksenseiposted 8 years ago

    I don't think they do have the capability yet, and I think that's why they are still in one piece (or, alternately, why China still feels like they can dodge this problem for a while longer).

    They have shot missles beyond their own borders, but nothing as far as Hawaii, to be sure.

  7. bgpappa profile image83
    bgpappaposted 8 years ago

    Tk, whats the alternative, strike first.  And we have Patriots in the region ready to defend.  If they fire anywhere near Hawaii, I agree, we blow them away, but don't we have a responsibility to wait until they actually do something, or should we invoke the Bush Doctrine and strike first, that is the tough question.

    1. tksensei profile image60
      tksenseiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If we really believe they are going to kill thousands upon thousands of US citizens could we really do anything other than strike first?

  8. bgpappa profile image83
    bgpappaposted 8 years ago

    Fair enough, I guess the real question is where is the breaking point.  Right now, crazy guy making crazy threats.  But at some point, it becomes a real threat.

    My point, it has to be a real threat, unlike Iraq.  I am not qualified (or likely smart enough) to suggest where that point is.  I just know we are not there yet.

  9. Pete Maida profile image59
    Pete Maidaposted 8 years ago

    Thanks to Bush our military is stretched thin and North Korea knows that.  What do you think Bush would do?  Do you it is justified to launch a strike based on one leader's blustering?  We have problems all over the world and most of it is because of the Bush policies. 
    We have mired ourselves in a Iraq because he wasn't smart enough to think there would be an insurgence.  I knew and my buddies knew exactly what was going to happen.  The Iraqis went to Hanoi to get information about fighting a guerilla war against the US before we attacked; how could he not know?
    It was a very long eight years and it will take a long time to dig us out of the international hole Bush got us in.

    1. The Shark profile image60
      The Sharkposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You knew?? to bad you weren't President, you should have notified the Pentagon seeing as they didn't know. Again, we took the war to their turf. Unfortuantely our lame "freinds at the useless UN did nothing to enforce their own rules. I know those pesky inspection vilations keep sticking in the way of a solid argument. Everyone!!! including the Great Clinton himself believed Sadam either had or was working on WMD. If you can't remeber go to YOUTUBE and you can actually see Clinton give a speech saying Sadam "had" WMD. So inspection violations, inspectors being thrown out, UN doing nothing to enforece their own rules THREE THOUSAND,(3,000) Americans DEAD!!!! Someone had to act. Remeber the big 3, Rather, Jennings and Brokaw telling us that it was not a question of "if" we were going to be attacked again, it was a question of "How Often". They further said that Americans were going to have to get used now to "living like the Israelies" with bus bombings and cafe bomings as a routine part of life. If your memory fails you, go to YOUTUBE and you can watch as these words leave their lips. The only person that didn't accept that option was Bush, and you know what? We haven't been attacked since, but England, Spain, and Australia all have been, God Bless President Bush. If the weak liberals had been more concerned about American lives, instead of worrying about the next election, they would have stood shoulder to shoulder with the President. Instead they put on a disgraceful display, using people like Cindy Sheehan to advance their cause. Why are our troops so thin? I thought Obama campaigned on brining the boys home. Ohhh he meant the boys in Gitmo, right I saw the first bunch deplaning last week. Welcom home boys!!!
      The Shark--(standing for change you can believe in---right)