I don't know how will you react to this. But it has been my observation that American guy are more friendly and open compared to the British or people from united kingdom. no offensement
I read the word, "offensement" and forgot the question... I love that word. Seriously though, some people have quirks that are cultural, but all in all, once you get to know them there are good and bad in all cultures.
I have been to the UK and although my ancestory is Scotch/Irish - we've been here for over 300 years so I suppose I am as American as they come. I found the British different, of course - more reserved in many ways - but the folks I met were good folks. Americans probably are less formal and we have been quite a bit isolated from the rest of the world due to our power and dominance of media [ ie Hollywood]. Most folks know more about the USA than we know about them. I was impressed at how eager people were to learn about Montana and the West -even familiar with some of our history while I confess a great ignorance of theirs.
British people are more tough. Americans are more diplomatic and friendly. Not only by face also the way they deal with people. opps ask those under the British company. Wink*
I think I know what you mean ,but I dont usually like stereotypes, since both cultures exude extroverts and introverts.
American males (just my opinion ) tend to be more expressive, and open which gives the impression of being more confident(which they may or may not be)
British males prefer to observe quietly ,then express just as passionately.
At a business level ,well I dont have any experience ,except maybe as a customer or client. I relate well to both , couldnt tell you what they think of me though ,hahaha
now a class system hmmm...stuffy an egalatarian in both perhaps.
I think your an American woman. I just want to let you know that its the united states of America who helped the Philippines from the bad hands of Japanese people. And many filipna women have married American man too. And I want to replaced my bf from united kingdom with an American man hehehehe that's on the lighter side.
Perhaps we should be debating the qualities of Filipino women instead, and their lack of loyalty to their partners?
lol, in answer to the original question I think that in 90% of the cases Americans are more openly friendly, and Australians even more so. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.
oh ohh. I think your barking at the wrong tree. Look who has more broken homes or families? Philippines or Americans? oh boy we don't have divorce here. where is yours statistics? Moral issues here also. Peace.
Um isnt that contrary then to what why you mentioned swapping your b/f for an american one???
moral issues? peace out back at ya
Actually I still have my choice we aren't married yet. So what do you think the best time to break up when you have tied the not already? well then if that's so then you call it divorce later. No i don't want that. There are still many fish in the ocean while I'm SINGLE. Wink*
I have really enjoyed this post perhaps the ocean must have been stirred by my post. Time to sleep now. Good night folks.
Thanks for the brain storming.
No actually I am not American or British I am me
Yes I agree the USA helps their allies!
But whats that got to do with replacing your boyfriend with an American. (its not like replacing a washing machine) y'know
If you want to immigrate then read my hub lol
Im curious is all.
Well actually I love to stay in my country though traveling to some place would make sense too. I cannot be at home in foreign land lols.
Where is your English b/f now then, in England?
Maybe the recession has hit him hard, and he's not sending her out enough money anymore so she thought she'd upgrade to an American.
ooooops, did I say that, or just think it, did they hear me?
What are you talking about? I simply broke with my bf from united kingdom cause I don't feel his sincerity. I can live in poverty if I want to. I don't worry about that recession I have my job and house in my own country. I can feed him with banana and coconut and swim near our beautiful beaches.
I think that you have to question the 'sincerity' of anybody that has to effectively 'buy' a mail order bride. If either of them were a good catch then there are plenty of single American and British girls, or as you say 'fish in the sea'. I just hope that a decent lonely western man isn't going to be heartbroken when they realise, like all of his friends already will, that their new 'love' is seeking marriage as a way of getting out of poverty.
I take your point ryan, but you dont look objectively at the situation either.
Many people 'buy brides' because they want to avoid all the money spent on dating and preconceived cultural rituals that may or may not end up in marraige anyway.
I do know what you are saying though, and maybe I have become more open-minded in my later years ...but Ive read stories where some men are extremely happy with foreign brides ,they adore them for rescueing them out of poverty and they in turn have a woman who will serve them well.
Remember too Immigration is alot different now , it serves to protect the sponsor more ,so as to tighten up on the fraud/deception side of things.
War brides were not new, nor pilgrim brides.
Colonial times several brides (potential) were sent on boats to New Zealand for the lonely male colonists.
But perhaps Beauty has heard that authors on here are very rich !!
Your secrets is out guys.
I for now , must get back to my chores she shyly says ..
tend the garden and round up the sheep.
I take your point, I guess I just took exception to this particular 'potential bride' who is choosing a man by nationality like a woman might decide between two different brands of designer handbag.
I guess I cannot really comment on the whole immigration thing, I read recently that New Zealand is the preferred destination for the British leaving the UK..... so maybe you will be on here slating the British very soon! Australia is second and the USA is third. Ironically the biggest reason for wanting to leave Britain is because of our 'immigration' issues!
Actually, a bit off topic..... can people from Asia sign up to adsense? and do they get decent money? Perhaps beautyrose could consider building up an income on hubpages as an alternative to finding a western benefactor!
New Zealand has been the preferred destination for the U.K for many years now, so no I would not need that reason to slate the British.
But I did make a valid point all the same.
Personally it wouldnt be my choice , but mail order brides are not unique to the Philipines or a new thing , not by a long shot!
Theres always more to a topic than the title dont you think?
You don't need to tell me that you made a valid point, I agreed with it. I know that the mail order bride thing is not a new concept, lonely British men have been heading for Thailand for many years and before that I believe it was Russia. I am sure that many of those men find love and happiness, and that many of the women do too, but I am also 100% certain that this particular Filipino woman isn't looking for too much 'love'.
I could even flip this coin over, its not just western men and women from less developed countries. There are also many women that look for 'love' in places such as Turkey and the Carribean, and many of those men have objectives of gaining citizenship in western countries.
Please don't think that I am making this a sex or race issue, I watched a BBC documentary very recently of men in Dominica who had dozens of American and British 'girlfriends' (mostly older), who would go and visit them twice a year.... and 'help them out' financially. They all admitted on camera that they could earn a lot of money and all had objectives of getting married for a British or American passport.
I don't want to generalise on these types of relationships, as like you said often they can make BOTH people happy. Both sides can also potentially be very dissapointed or even heartbroken. In this case, do you not think that there could be a sad lonely British man who is in love with a Filipino girl, who would be devastated to know that she might want an 'American man' instead, just before the wedding?
So because she said he was British ,you felt for the guy.
Its also possible he only exists in her mind.
Or on the other hand if he does indeed exist ,whats the difference if she being a Filipino breaks his heart or an English girl breaks his heart?
He/She hurts either way. ( sponsorship ends when the relationships ends)
And I made the point about Immigration for the very reason you mentioned....It is alot more difficult to get Citizenship now for any country even as a married couple, not lenient as it used to be ( to avoid the very thing you quoted)
And I didnt know if you agreed with me or not , I am not a mind reader.
Excuse me but I'm not a mail order bride. And I still prefer Filipino men than white Ghost men.
And I know for a fact that Hp is to publish article and not a dating site. Perhaps I hurt your ego British boy that's why your barking like a hopeless dogggyy.
But yet you have/had an English boyfriend, I'm thinking that he's a very lucky man that you split up before he realized what you were really like.
Lucky in what sense? I'm even more lucky cause I know most western men have lost there moral values already. Telling there teenage son and daughter. ohh son don't ever forget your condom and ohh daughter don't forget to take your Pills. And where is your morality there. No wonder many families are divorcing there. You are not satisfied with one. No wonder AIDS is very common there.
Don't speak for everyone. Condoms protect against AIDS and the pill protects against unwanted pregnancy. You bet my teenage son/daughter are going to know allllll about them and how to protect themselves. Educating my son/daughter doesn't mean I don't have any morals. It's called honesty.
Cause it only goes to shows that allowing then bring condom and drink pills is amounting to allowing them to engaged in pre marital sex which first of all is a mortal sin. NO wonder the world is being punished by all sort of diseases due to our own doing. I advise you to read the BIBLE and there you will find that sex outside marriage is a sin.
Umm first of all we aren't in the religion forum. So I wouldn't even try bringing that up. Second of all, providing education does not promote sexual promiscuity. Third of all, live your "no sex outside of marriage, avoid all sin" lifestyle and I'll live mine
If I don't believe in God and thus care what the Bible says (or plead illiterate) then please please can i have a fun life?
By the way, you will NOT win a religious debate on here, and I would strongly suggest you don't start one (if you want to have one then try the religious forums, the theists need some help ) but if you insist then by all means give it a go.
Lucky because he no longer has you to contend with, I'm sorry to say this, but you're the first person I've come across on HP who actually makes me physically cringe, urggh!
Choose the American, I don't want you anywhere near my country you uneducated racist money grabber. You don't know anything about the British other than that they have more money then you. There are hundreds of people more worthy of the visa. Come to Britain with your attitude and you won't last five minutes.
Ohh boy I did not dream of going to your country. Sorry not in my dreams.
See you planting treats on me how can you attract tourist there in your place if all of the people there will be like you boy.
I didnt see anything ,but I heard Chrysler may move a plant out that way so their may be motion on the ocean, gawd
think I saw a rich Texan on ebay last week, hes up to a couple of greenbacks too, hey come back beautyrose!!
oh no honey you gotta feed american man lots of beef ,prime beef
Blimey, that'd be some major motion.
Think I might try and bag that rich Texan for myself, under this mask I'm really quite pwetty.
And I sure could use the money.
Sorry I don't ask money from someone. I can still afford foods lols
Ok cool then everyone send me the food beauty dont want it
I pweety too MrV <<< wear these so nobody recognise me, and als dont have your expertise
My apologies, I was merely trying to demonstrate that we can all be stereotyped.
You know his busy much with his business making much more money and I'm afraid one day he will make me his maid instead of wife lols. Scarryyyy
Well..... I am from the UK, and although I would admit that the Americans are a little more forward and open, particularly with first impressions, whilst many people from the UK are reserved until they get to know somebody..... I don't think that 'Diplomatic' is really a word that the rest of the world would automatically apply to 'America'. At the same time the rest of the world is perhaps hoping that this will change after eight years of the fantastic Barrack Obama.
This is where you tell me that your a staunch republican and defend your foreign policy, maybe?
I respect your opinion. But America has helped a lot of poor country united kingdom have not. Can u enumerate some. During world war 1, world war 2? Peace brow. Well I don't know about obama cause he comes from a mixed blood black and white lols.
Really? I can't really see your point with regards to World War 1 and 2.... the British and Americans were fighting the same cause, and that war left this country in a mess for a long time.
I don't think that I am going to try and comment on this to be honest, I guess that you don't really understand the concept of capitalism and globalisation. Both the UK and USA have done very little to 'help the world', and have probably done a lot more to 'help themselves'? Maybe you should read some Noam Chomsky and a little more about history.
I would be very interested in knowing how the USA has helped the Phillipines, I didn't really know much about that to be honest.
Clearly I don't know much about the history of the Phillipines, but Douglas MacArthur was in the Phillipines (with the Phillipines army) whilst the British were fighting off German invasion, drafting 16 year old boys straight into the army, turning peoples saucepans into airoplanes.
Clearly you do not know enough about European History, like I do not know much about Asian history. It was a clear choice at that time between preventing invasion by the Nazi's who had already taken France, Spain, Poland and most other countries in Europe, or giving in.... and for our country to effectively be a German state.
If you know so much about the Japanese military then you would know that they were allies of the German Nazi's. Ask the families of the 6 million jews that were killed in gas chambers whether or not the British fight for other people.
During world war I and II, both the Americans and British made huge sacrifices to retain the liberty and freedom that we take for granted in this world.
The British lost 994,138 people in WWI and 449,800 in WWII
The Americans lost 117,465 people in WWI and 418,500 in WWII
In world war II, 90,000 Filipino's died in WWII.
Now, dont ever ever say that the British have not much to help the world.
I think your history stinks, frankly. The UK went to war on 3rd September 1939, over the Nazi invasion of Poland. The USA sat on its collective backside until they were actually attacked.
Ditto the First World War - when the UK declared war over the violation of Belgium's neutrality.
I hope you don't mind, but I intend to reply to both points at the same time. For the record Lisa, I am not an America basher, this will just explain my personal opinions for why so many people in the UK (and elsewhere) ofte America bash. Once again I'd like to point out that I have no personal gripe with America, would like to go there some day, and even have several friends I first came into contact with years ago when I was still in school, and who I am still in contact with now.
Britain joined World War I after the German army decided to march through Belgium which was a British and American ally at the time (and still is). Several countries, most notably those linked to the French and British Empires, and Russia on the eastern front, decided to support little Belgium. America only entered the war later when a ship carrying many US citizens was sunk by the German navy. The fact that the Americans entered the war so late annoys many in Britain as it was felt that they only joined at a late stage. The major gripe many people have is the way in which some history, particularly in some forms of US film/television seems to suggest that the US won the war single handedly.
In World War II, Britain, France and many other countries decided to declare war on Nazi Germany after they had invaded Poland not just for the fun of it, but because it was the right thing to do. Again the US did not join the war until attacked themselves at Pearl Harbour at which point they decided to join the war (and immediately Britain, France etc also declared war on Japan). Again the British seem to hold a grudge against the US for the way in which they seemed to not join the war until personally attacked, even though one side was facists who had the aim of killing all blacks, Jews and slavs. Another thing which annoys many British is the way in which all American war films seem to relate to the American losses etc, when even late in the European war, such as on D-Day, more British personnel were involved than American personnel. Whilst this annoys many British people, I can see why the American film industry makes films like Saving Private Ryan - it is the American film industry and feels that greater interests in America and therefore profit can be made by it having Americans as heroes.
In 1982 The British oversees teritory of the Falklands was attacked and invaded by Argentina. Despite the local population expressing wishes to be part of the UK, there was no assistance from international forces and so the Falkland Islands were taken by force by the UK alone. This was another thing which annoyed many people in the UK, as they felt that Britains allies shoudl have helped her and as America was the most powerful ally America got the brunt of the criticism.
On 9/11 there was obviously the terrible attacks in America. Many British were shocked at this and quite rightly supported the war in Afghanistan (I believe the British were the second biggest troop contributor after the Americans). However, some British people even then were wondering why we should help out our allies (the Americans) when it seemed that in the past they were so unhappy to help their allies (this isn't a view I held/hold).
In addition to the military history, there are a few other things which seem to annoy British people about America. Two of the major ones are the fact that the Americans are percieved to have changed the English language eg colour has become color. Another thing which I often encounter as being the worst thing about America is your love of calling football soccer. I must admit the latter does annoy me - but not to the level where I would America bash. America is an amazing country, which is generally a force for good in the world.
There are some British who like to America bash, but the vast majority of British poeople would probably agree that America is a good country. You just have to remember that the British like their rivalries, but often these are with those which we have most in common with. Many of these have historical links, or sporting links and the list of countries they include are Australia, France, Germany, America, Argentina, Russia, Japan, Israel and China. Basically the British have rivalries with many countries, but in many of these cases, including America, these are seen as friendly rivalries. Also if you think teh British America bash come to England, particularly during a World Cup. You will quickly see that compared with how we moan about the French, Germans, Japanese etc Americans are positively loved!
opps I joined your fun club as it goes out to show that I'm also friendly lols. Wink*
Maybe to visitors from other countries the "most dramatic" differences show up, but I don't think stereotypes are appropriate. I've so often heard references to stereotypical differences between British people and Americans, and I have to say I've lived in the US all my life and tend to have a lot of "less outward" demeanor often associated with people from the UK. I've also known a couple of "life-of-the-party" types from the UK.
(This thread isn't about Obama or who, in other countries like him; and it isn't about anyone in the US having to defend him or any Republicans to people from other countries. See? That "unfriendly" remark must come from my "non-American-like" personality.)
In fairness, all I did was omit the word 'many' before the word 'Americans', I could have been much more stereotypical.
Anyway, I am going to stick on ones bowler hat, summons my butler and ask him to make me for fish and chips at noon. Then I'm going to take a stroll to the local cricket pitch, twiddling my umbrella, before taking in a splendid game of spiffing cricket with a pot of tea. I must remember to say cheerio to Mary Poppins before she goes off on holiday to the seaside! ;-)
ryankett, maybe you should read a few things other than Noam Chomsky.
Here's a link to a nutshell-type version of the Philippines/WWII:
http://www.philippine-history.org/japan … pation.htm
(Not that anyone else cares much, but it happens that my mother's first young husband was killed in the Philippines during the war after completing one tour of duty and being called back.) You may also want to read up some on all the things the world wouldn't benefit from if it weren't for Capitalism.
I don't really get the sense in your remark about the country's being left in a mess after the war. What - should England and the US not have fought back and instead just dutifully cleaned up after all the attacks? Should the US have just "minded its business" and let England fend for itself? Should it have been better at fighting a "mess-less" war?
If someone wants to dislike/hate a country or someone else for some reason he'll put blinders on and refuse to acknowledge anything positive about that other country/person. I suspect you're one of those people.
I am immensely proud of the generations of people before me that lost their lives and lived in extreme poverty for years following, in the name of liberty and freedom. Winston Churchill is the greatest leader in the history of my country, Britain, both of my grandfathers lost brothers and sisters in the war. Both would never talk about the attrocities and the things that they saw.
I think that you may have misunderstood this initial reply from me, I did not realise that she was referring to WWI or WWII at this stage of the conversation. You will perhaps see this if you read one of my following responses. Incidently, I am ashamed of what my country has become now, and what it stands for. I am also disgusted when I see protests by Muslims in my own country who chant and wave banners saying 'Death to England'.
You should be proud of those veterans and Winston Churchill, as so many other people aware of what went on during WWII should be proud of their own country's veterans and leaders who dealt with it. There's a whole lot in my country that I'm not too thrilled with either; and I suppose that may be what contributes to my belief that the most sensible, reasonable, people who care about preserving what is worth preserving (in their own country and in other people's) shouldn't be bashing their own or other people's countries. It's a weakening thing for anyone/anything to be constantly, constantly, bashed (by both citizens and outsiders). I suspect if England were faced with being attacked today the US would be there to help; and I suspect if the US were faced with fighting on its own soil England would be most likely be there to help. That's why I often resent what seems like so much freedom to bash the US by people from other the UK. Your country has its issues to deal with. Mine has its own. I'm not on a British site bashing your country because I know that I don't know enough about the inner workings of it to even have an opinion. People from outside the US, however, seem to read a few things, form their opinions, and then seem to think they're experts. (There are a lot of things in the US on which I don't have enough to understandings of the "inner workings" to feel safe forming a firm opinion.)
Just on this site alone the US is bashed by its friends, enemies, and citizens alike. I don't mean "expressing different opinions". I mean implying that the US is a big, bad, horrible, evil country that is the source of all the world's problems and woes. Reasonable and informed differences of opinion are different from opinions that bash without sufficient understanding. If someone did the same kind of bashing about a lot of other countries I'd be just as quick to try to introduce some balance. There are enough "bad guys" and evil motives out there that I don't think this is a time in history to be imagining evil where it doesn't exist. I know I'm long-winded and probably a little to defensive here, but these days (and not so long after 911) the US (which really isn't pure evil, and which really has done, and does do, a lot for the world) is under "attack" (in some cases, by people in the government itself) in ways a lot more damaging and far-reaching than 911 could ever be. I don't pretend that it isn't a constant source of anger and frustration for a lot of Americans like me. (I know beautyrose didn't intend for this thread to take such an off-topic and serious direction and have considered deleting all my venting - but I thought I'd go ahead and post and just not add any more comments.)
I am not going to bother responding to much to this to be honest, because you have taken my comments way out of context and far too deep. I have in no way 'bashed' the USA in this thread, I don't feel the need to defend myself or justify myself.
If you are referring to my short comment about American's not being seen worldwide as particularly 'diplomatic', then I am afraid that that is a fact of life which you may have to deal with. Obama's approach to foreigh policy has been a lot more focussed on negotiation, diplomacy and general tactfullness.
I will not apologise for stating a truth, the world's media has been very critical of the USA's foreign policy - particularly in the Bush era - and the world was behind Obama. There is no bashing going on, its just the truth.
Ask yourself why Cuban's were not allowed to visit their relatives in America until recently? And ask yourself why they are now? Diplomacy!
I will add to that however, that I am sick to death of American's citing 9/11 constantly as an example of evil. It was a terrible tragedy, very shocking, my thoughts will always be with the families of the people that died.
But you know what? I also remember other significant world events. One such event was 7/7..... in case you don't know what happened on 7/7, this too was terror attacks by Muslim extremists. A number of suicide bombers in London, in the tube trains and on a packed bus. There were also terror attacks in Paris and Madrid, equally as tragic. There have been terrorist attacks worldwide, as well as other tragedies.... including the Tsunami, civil wars in Africa etc etc.
The victims of 7/7 were remembered at a memorial service this year, which was attended by our Royal family, our prime minister and the families of the victims. A memorial piece was unvieled.
We - quite rightly - have plenty of coverage of 9/11 related memorials and events in the UK, but did the Americans even acknowledge that this was an important day in our history? I bet it didn't even get a passing mention on your news programmes, and why? Because you all thought it fine to hold the funeral and memorial of Micheal Jackson on that day instead.
I could assure you that if a hugely important UK citizen had died in early September, lets say Prince Charles or Elton John, his memorial would have been held on 10th September or 12th September. Its called respect.
I don't really understand where you are coming from with the stuff about leaving England to fend for itself. I am not debating the value of the two countries and their respective impacts during and following the war. I clearly pointed out that both America and Britain made huge sacrifices during the war, and that to have a Filipino make a flippant and uninformed statement about the Americans doing more than the British to help the world is not only disrespectful to all British people but completely wrong. The British did not occupy the Phillipines, because unfortunately there was less than 40 miles between our country and the Nazi occupied coast of Dunkirk.
After the war had all but wiped out an entire generation of British men, the Americans very kindly helped us out at Dunkirk. You also made a film about it, called 'Saving Private Ryan'. But the lack of a British presence in The Phillipines during WWII does not give enough reason for a Filipino to state that the Americans have done more to help the world. Men from many countries world over lost their lives fighting against dictatorships including the Nazi's and the Japanese.
Actually it depends on the person. Many of the British men I have talked to have been very open minded and interested in different ideas.
To me the English are just as cordial as the Americans they only thing different is that the English to not put up with as much garbage as we Americans do. My natural father was from Wales and what a great man he was.
at least you have a calm statement here. Unlike some of the two ungentle men here just prove to be that they are unbecoming uneducated white.
We have a very sensitive bullshit meter (-:
The boys from Peter Pan were from London. They were pretty open and friendly.
Your poor American boyfriend. You want to replace him? Then why are you still with him?
Sorry his not American but his from united kingdom. Not anymore.
Ok gotcha. Well you wanted to replace him. So you're both better off. But might I suggest changing your attitude before you engage yourself in another relationship. Especially with an American. American boys hate drama and games.
All I can say is urgghh, even the very thought of you makes me throw up a little in my mouth.
I'm sorry but I think you should change your name from beautyrose to uglyrose, I've not seen you, maybe you are beautiful on the outside, but you certainly aren't on the inside.
You're right, perhaps it is wrong to argue with a woman, all I know that is had I been your ex boyfriend I would be counting my lucky stars.
However if you are both happier this way, then best of luck to you both.
What a nasty, ignorant person. This op is not going to have a decent relationship until she starts looking at herself... say another 40 years from now. Brain dead.
Just wondering. How old are you? And what was your longest relationship?
British people are wonderful. Also as of late there has been some UK and other country bashing on the part of a few Americans. I will not say more because I do not wish to be lashed out at again, but I am really tired of these threads.
British chicks are hawter than American chicks because they have an accent. Automatic +2 on the 1 to 10 scale. So even the fugliest British chick, she could look like Shrek after a three day drunk, is still a 2. Those are the US vs. UK facts. Anything beyond that about either country is a stereotype.
I think this thread has gone off in a couple of directions
Personally, Im thinkin I guess if youre British you feel offended,since the thread began comparing the two nationlaities.
(British and American)
If we are not looking at race ,then I take it Beauty and her Englosh b/f have split ,and she quiet like the idea of maybe having an American b/f now?
Is that right BR?
The way I look at it, there are jerks in every country
Yes there are good and bad people in ever country, but over the last couple of days there have been too many comments of this nature. I am not British and cannot be offended, but I still think it is a sort of a negative thread.
Perhaps somebody could post some more of those crazy cat pics to lighten it up, lol
How can I resist?
Cat will keep an eye on you so you behave:
lol, now this one means business!
* Hey EK what's a golden shub? lol
Oh forget now , must have been in a movie I saw , cross between a shower and a tub =shub
what is that animal???
Where is Surfi , an Kaos lol
yes MrV it had everything to do with that g.shower
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