Numbers and Funny Characters

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   Liz Eliasposted 15 years ago

   Hi-
      Ijust created my first hub page today.  I am puzzled by the number that appears at the top of the page next to the title.
      I began entering my poems, and all of a sudden, there was a number 50 by the title where no number had been before.
      I began a search of the FAQ's, this forum, and so forth, to try to find out what that was about (unsuccessful), and when I went back to my page, the number had changed to 49.
      What are these numbers??? Does it represent how many items we've input?  (I haven't done anywhere near 50.)
   
   
     Next---when I checked my content via the 'preview' window, every single line had one of those e-mail quote type arrows (>) at the left side of each line.   Also, there were probably 4 spaces where I had double spaces.  Will it appear this way to the public???  Not cool.

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   Janettaposted 15 years ago

   the number next to the title is the score of that particular hub.
   
   I looked at your hub and it looks like it may have been copied and pasted from somewhere else. It is all copywritten material as well. If it belongs to you, then that is fine. But publishing someone else's material is not a good way to start out.
   
   Also, your comment section is in the middle of the poems. It should be at the bottom. You can get an idea how to layout hubs by visiting other hubbers and seeing how they do it. You may want to limit the poems to only two or three per hub also if you are going to be posting a lot of poetry.

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      Liz Eliasposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It IS my own material, and I included MY copyright information to attempt to protect MYSELF from copycat 'artists.'  Are you saying I should NOT inform the world that my material is owned by me, and that I hold the copyright???? 
      
      ...You will notice my name on my hub, and as it appears here in this forum, MATCHES the name on my copyright info.... (C.E. (Carl) Elias)... "Carl" was before a divorce & remarriage...so I simply renewed the copyright!  And I go by "Liz" now, from my middle name, preferring (since about 1985) not to use my first name.
      
       
      
      And yes, I copied/pasted it from my MSWord documents, to save re-typing everything.  So..you are telling me that I have to re-type it all manually to avoid the weird line breaks and arrows???  What a drag!
      
      As far as where the comment section is... I had no idea it would be anywhere but the bottom, since each new 'capsule' just indicated "added below."  This is confusing.

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   BrianFanslauposted 15 years ago

   Just take a deep breath hun
   
   Now since you are new I would advise looking over some of the regulars and people who have been putting out recent hubs to see what their hubs look like. I have written some poetry myself and generally all I include for capsules are:
   
   Text Picture
   Comment Box
   
   For poems that is.
   
   Do not worry about any of the numbers when you are new they do not mean anything other than you are new
   
   Once you have written a few more hubs and become active in forum discussion your ratings should go up.

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   Janettaposted 15 years ago

   Whoa! Hey you asked for help--I offered some answers. No need to get testy.
   
   I saw the copyright wich says CE Elias, not LIZ Elias as your name is here in the forum so NO they DO NOT match. same last name could be a relative or spouse. I do not know your full name so wouldn't have automatically known Liz was a middle name. I didn't accused just made a statement. It's perfectly fine to include a copyright and is actually a good idea.
   
   Secondly, If that is what is happening when you copy paste, then yes, you will need to either manually remove each arrow, etc after you paste or type it all in by hand. Or save in a nother format and try pasteing from there.
   
   The capsules, when added, will all go in under each other, but you can move these capsules wherever you like. I repeat, take a look at other hubs to see how they do it.
   
   I know it can be confusing and, often, frustrating. I have several hubs on writing hubs, titling hubs etc as do many others. And most of us are willing to help if you have questions.
   
   Now, if you have any other qs about this stuff, feel free to shoot me amessage via my profile or continue asking your Q's here in the forums. Either way, we are happy to help

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      Liz Eliasposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry--not meaning to be testy... it was just the way it was stated,  ...''looks like it could be copied..not a good way to start''... that sounded somewhat accusatory...
      
      I guess I'll have to go re-edit all my copyright notices to read:  © Aug. 2009 C.E.(Liz)(Carl)Elias. ... .  :-o
      
      
      With the weird arrows thing, tho... it is not visible in the edit portion...only in the preview, and yes, in the published version....so I have no way to 'remove' while editing.
      
      Next, I don't know what you mean by 'separate hubs' ... and only so many in a hub...  I thought this WHOLE THING was the hub--and you are inserting these 'capsules' into your hub page.
      
      If that is not the case, then I guess I found the instructions rather ambiguous.

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   Janettaposted 15 years ago

   Ok..by 'seperate hubs' I meant that several long-ish poems in one hub is kind of a lot. My poem hubs include only one poem each. If they are very short poems, it might make sense to have two or even three poems per hub. Otherwise I would stick to one a piece but that is up to you ultimately.
   
   If the copyright is yours, then you do not need to change it.
   
   The "hub" is what you were inserting capsules into. I've never seen the arrows deal before and yes, I have copy/pasted from my own documents as well w/o the issue so the only idea I have for that is try saving in a different format but I don't know if that would help.

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      Liz Eliasposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      OK... I mean I thought that creating more 'hubs' would be creating more 'hub accounts' and having multiple hub pages to track.  That is where I am confused.
      
      I guess I will go look at yours, if I can figure out how to get there.  I learned of this site from a friend who is e-publishing her book on here.....but when I clicked the link from facebook, I got a "user does not exist" error.

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   Janettaposted 15 years ago

   to visit a hubbers profile from the forums, just click on their name or picture
   
   Under your profile, you can have as many hubs as you like. It will all stay under your profile.

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      Liz Eliasposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks... I've looked at yours, and see what you mean about the different hubs... however, what I am trying to do, won't work that way.
      
      I have several "books" of poetry, and I'm trying to publish them within their original groupings, one "hub" for each:  Animal Friends, The Open Road, Wind, Land and Sea, and so forth...there are several poems in each group, that is why I have only one hub so far--it is for the poems from "The Open Road."
      
      When I chose a 'title' I thought I was titling my hub pages entire site, not just a single set of poems.  Now, can I fix that???

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         Liz Eliasposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Oh, dear... I'm afraid I'm still confused.  I just went in and 'edited' the hub with my Open Road poems, all well and good, 
         
         HOWever, when I went to create a 'new hub' for another set of poems, I am instructed to 'give it a unique web address'. ... :-(
         
         I thought my "unique web address" was my Hub PAGES address.... http://hubpages.com/hub/Lizzys-Poetic-Essays
         
         So, now, I'll have to track umpteen different web addy's and sign-ins to make multiple hubs for all my groups???  Oh, dear... 61-year-old-brains may not be up to this challenge....

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            Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Liz, I suggest you stop trying to post for a while, and do some reading about how to use HubPages.
            
            HubPages is, basically, like a magazine.  Each Hub is an article in that magazine.  That's why Janetta usually only publishes one poem per Hub. 
            
            Read all of Darkside's Hubs on how to Hub and how to lay out capsules etc, things will start to look a bit clearer!
            
            http://hubpages.com/profile/darkside
            
            You also need to know how to format the poems so they don't end up double-spaced, it's too spread out.
            
            Paraglider suggests choosing the H4 format for poems (highlight the poem then choose it from the drop-down box):
            
            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/17010#post254752

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               Liz Eliasposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               I"m afraid I've been doing some of the reading you suggested, and I'm as confused as ever.
               
               I don't think this site is going to work for me.  It is too restrictive.  It won't let me format my poems the way they were meant to be...with multiple indents for each stanza.  The blockquote feature only lets me indent a single line; using it again simply lines that line up under the first indent, instead of yet another tab stop in.
               
               And I have a couple of Haiku, that I like centered on the page;  there is no option for centering.
               
               The spacing issue is not an issue the way I originally write the poems:  but it seems to be an issue here.   NOT double-spacing results in all the stanzas jammed together with no separation or paragraphing.  What SHOULD BE 'normal' double spacing ends up all strung out, as you observed.
               
               And as I said, each poem is part of a COLLECTION of poems within a theme...that is why I do not want one poem per hub.  I want to publish the collections.  So, again, it looks as if this is not going to be the ideal site for me to use.  I'll keep searching.
               
               Meanwhile, thanks to everyone for their input and attempts to help.

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   Janettaposted 15 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/hub/creatingahub  This may help.
   
   You can change your titles but not your URL once the hub is published. Check out the hub and see if that answers your questions. If you have any more questions, go to my profile and click the "contact Janetta" link under my pic on the right hand side.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 15 years ago

   Liz, I hate to send anyone away from HubPages because it's a great site.  And there aren't too many places that are welcoming to poets, either!
   
   To be honest, if you're that fussy about formatting and layout, you would be better off posting your work on your own blog.
   
   I know that sounds scary, but if you join somewhere like Wordpress.com, the learning curve isn't that much harder than HubPages.  And there is a community there that will help you.
   
   At Wordpress.com, you create a blog, where you have the choice of making posts (like one long document you keep adding to) or separate pages,or a combination of both.
   
   Tip: I assume you want to be taken seriously as a poet, so I would think of something professional-sounding to name your blog.  People do use nicknames on the internet but not when they're using it for some professional purpose.

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