About advertising, who gets the AdSense Account?

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   Mary Nealposted 15 years ago

   At HubPages, do writers have to have an account with AdSense for Google ads to appear on their hubs, or do they appear because HubPages has its own account with Google AdSense?
   
   I ask because I have Google ads on my one hub, but I have no individual AdSense account yet.
   
   I appreciate your help, members.  Ordinarily, I promote my articles and engender between 600 and 52,000 views within a month or so.  However, I cannot start promoting my site at HubPages until I resolve the AdSense issue and learn how to apply the widgets by other advertisers.  Therefore, your assistance is appreciated. 
   
   I tried to apply for YieldBuilder, but it says my name has been taken, and no matter how many odd and unique suffixes I put to my name, it gave the same response.  When I applied with AdSense, Google's response was also that an application had been made from my email address already.  I had hoped the cyberstalkers would not follow me to HubPages; however, it appears that is what has happened.
   
   Due to actual in-person stalking and cyberterrorism, I have been home for 1.5 years.  It is now necessary that I make a living writing online for safety, as opposed to going outside my home to work.  You see, I was followed home each night after work in 2008, and police refuse to investigate the terrorism.  I perceive that the cyberstalkers are determined to prevent my earning a living online, and this may be why I ran into roadblocks activating AdSense and YieldBuilder. It was my plan to only write about positive developments in justice on HubPages, but this type of interference makes that impossible.  You can google online for background on this. I sincerely regret that it continues regardless of where I write, apparently.

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      ryankettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Oh ok, I understand now. Apologies and sympathies for your plight.

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      ryankettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You seem to be rather controversial Mary Neal? I hope that things dont get like this on here......
      
      
      
      "Hi Mary,
      
      I understand there were some difficulties between you and staff while I was away and after reviewing the various forum posts I have decided to contact you directly. It think it is time that we clarify a few things regarding your persistent complaints and accusations. First and foremost there is NO security breach at NowPublic and I ask that you stop stating publicly that there is, this is simply untrue and your accusation is unfounded.
      
      I know you feel very strongly that you are being attacked by cyberstalkers but I can assure you that no person or entity has infiltrated NowPublic simply to attack and monitor you. If you are being harassed online it is has nothing to do with our site infrastructure. I suggest you have your computer(s) checked and cleaned and contact your ISP. Any difficulties you experience are not due to a security breech on our end. For the most part your publishing issues have been traced to user error and have been easy to fix on our end. Your NowPublic account is not, and never has been, hacked by cyberstalkers.
      
      In the past I have had to ask you to stop attacking, accusing and verbally assaulting staff, both in private messages and in public forum posts. I was shocked to see that you not only continued these attacks but escalated them last week. I am speaking specifically of your accusation that Amy was in any way racist toward you. This is perhaps the most outrageous of the many unfounded accusations you have directed toward the site and its staff. Once again I ask that you refrain from personal attacks, which are a direct violation of our terms and conditions, and address staff with respect. I know for a fact that Amy has on many occasions gone out of her way to assist you, one may even say she has gone above and beyond, and the racist accusation made by you is in no way backed up by the historical facts of your interactions with her. I strongly feel you owe her a public apology.
      
      I have always found your strong sense of social justice to be among your best qualities but it seems that you have little regard for the manner in which you treat the staff and editors at NowPublic. Your hostile and accusatory behavior must stop immediately, it is counter productive to the community and unfair to staff. It is very clear that you do not at all appreciate the huge amoung of help you have been given in the past and I find it very hard to justify asking staff to continue to subject themselves to your hostile allegations. If you can not address staff in a productive and respectful manner your account will be suspended and may be permanently closed.
      
      I ask that you treat staff the way you would like to be treated. If this is not possible we will need to reconsider your involvement with our community. I am sorry it has come to this but your recent behavior can not go unaddressed.
      
      Please consider this a formal warning.
      
      Tina Kells
      News Director"

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   relacheposted 15 years ago

   Mary,
   
   You're going to want to read the entire section of the FAQ that deals with royalties, payments, etc.
   
   Here's where to get started,
   
   http://hubpages.com/faq/#royalties

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   Mary Nealposted 15 years ago

   Thank you.  I did read the data at that link.  It says that I must set up an account with Google AdSense.  However, that is roadblocked, perhaps by the cyberstalkers.  When I tried to apply for AdSense weeks ago, the computer response was that there was ALREADY an application pending from my gMail email box, and that I would hear from Google within a week.  I never received any response to that application WHICH I DID NOT MAKE. 
   
   The document you recommended for me to read did not explain why Google AdSense ads would appear on my hub without my having a Google AdSense account.  I was wondering if Hub has an AdSense account itself that is automatically activated for hubs, even if the writers have no AdSense account themselves.  Do you know the answer?

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      Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I suggest you contact Adsense and advise them of the situation.  You will need an Adsense account in order to make any kind of reasonable income from HubPages.  You can sign up for Amazon and eBay accounts and include those capsules on your Hubs, but they are generally a sideline rather than the main earning pathway.
      
      Yes, HubPages has its own Adsense account.  Once you are set up with your own account, HubPages will alternate your ads with its own. You earn when your ads are displayed, Hubpages earns while its ads are displayed. While you don't have an account, HubPages will display its own ads.

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         Mary Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you very much, Marisa.  I think you are right about my needing to contact Google directly.  I just did not want to do that without checking first to see if there was some explanation for the AdSense ads running on my HubPage that I should know about.  Everything I read at HubPages instuctions led me to believe that until I have a personal AdSense account, no Google ads would run, but I wanted to be sure.  The only sense I can make of it thus far is that somehow my email box already has an AdSense account affixed to it with a phone no. that is unknown to me, if in fact HubPages does not automatically run Google ads.  It is probably a computer error, and I will take it up with Google. 
         
         I appreciate all the responses.  Thank you who welcomed me.

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   ajasquaredposted 15 years ago

   Sorry Mary, I don't know wether or not hubpages itself has an Adsense account (although that would be very interesting.) However, an easy way to fix your delima with adsense would be just to wait till adsense contacts you via your gmail account.  then, if you are woried about the safty of your account, you can Deleat it and make a new one. I am pretty sure this is in acordance with adsense rules. Your arnt't allowed to have mutiple accounts, but if you deleat the first one, you should be ok.  If you still run into trouble, you can contact google at https://www.google.com/adsense/support/bin/request.py

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      Mary Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, Ajasquared!  The thing is that I don't have an AdSense account.  From the first time I tried to set one up, it said that an application was already in for my email address.  You have to know the phone no. that was used in order to access any AdSense account that is affiliated with your email box, and I have no idea what phone no. is associated with mine.  Therefore, I certainly cannot delete it and open a new account, as you suggested.  I tried all three of my home and cell numbers, and it is none of those. I hoped that I could find a reasonable explanation for this.
      
      This is why I asked writers if HubPages has its own AdSense accounts it runs on hubs and splits profits with writers, since I have no account of my own and the ads are running.
      
      Thanks.

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   ryankettposted 15 years ago

   Cyberstalkers? What the hell are Cyberstalkers?
   
   I understand that being followed home from work is a distressing experience, but I doubt very much that you are being cyberstalked to the point where you cant register accounts online. Do you not think that this is likely to be paranoia?

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   pauldeedsposted 15 years ago

   Have you tried signing into your Google account, and then going to the Main AdSense Page?  If you already have an account, even if you didn't signup for it (or don't remember signing up for it), you you can simply associate it with HubPages rather than creating a new one.

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      Mary Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, Paul.  My response from AdSense from the very first time I tried to establish an account was that one was already pending for my email address at gmail, and that I would get an email from Google when an determination was made.  I received no such email.  Therefore, I cannot open the AdSense account AT ALL, not knowing what phone no. was used (you have to input your last five digits of your phone no. the first time).  I have no idea who and at what bank will be paid for my HubPages, you see? 
      
      The same events happened with YieldBuild.  When I tried to join, the response was that every user name I input was taken(no matter how unique I made the name).  Therefore, I could not establish a YieldBuild account.  Therefore, I don't know why it is that when I go to my Hub, it says that YieldBuild is optimizing the ads, do you? 
      
      Therefore, advertising accounts that I have no access to whatsoever are busy running on my hubs.  Can you see my delimma?  This is why I asked if HubPages automatically assigns ads to writers' pages since I was essentially blocked from establishing those accounts.  Thanks so much for answering.

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   Mary Nealposted 15 years ago

   Thanks.  Ryan, I am sure they won't be that way on HubPages.  HubPages is much bigger and more professional, I am sure.  I doubt if I would be allowed to search for months for computer problems and cyberstalkers in an effort to discover why my articles were being changed, links deleted, comments deleted, photographs deleted, and data missing from within my articles without being told that it is the staff doing these things until very recently.  I doubt if on HubPages I will find I have a couple of articles deleted but with links to those articles left on the Internet and directing people to other articles of mine in their places.  I doubt if on HubPages I will find that someone is working with me to delete data as I hit "submit," forcing me to ask someone in management to post for me.  I doubt if I will have to do this EVERY TIME I need to post certain taglines which were always hampered, like "African American" and "Taser."
   
   The thing is that I am a legal secretary of 15 years, and my sister is an attorney.  I know the value of having proof for everything I write.  I do not care to run my videos at this time, but if ever there is a serious question about anything of this sort and HubPages needs to see what happened at NP, I can and will oblige.  Otherwise, I choose not to discuss old things.  It is my intention to deal only in positives at HubPages.  Proof of cyberstalking is very easy to capture.  All it takes is working with a camera-ready cell phone, digital camera, and have people nearby to write and sign affidavits.
   
   I am not the first or only person to have cyberstalkers.  As a matter of fact, the problem was already so widespread in 1999, that the USDOJ took steps to address it, and it has only gotten worse over the last decade.  See below.
   
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   1999 REPORT ON CYBERSTALKING:  A NEW CHALLENGE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INDUSTRY
   
   
   http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrim … alking.htm
   
   Cyberstalking:  A New Challenge for Law Enforcement and Industry
   
   A Report from the Attorney General to the Vice PresidentAugust 1999
   
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   Ryan, this is current news, a situation that was published this month - you can Google for the title:
   
   Web Attack Aimed At One Activist Blogger
   
   It has been confirmed that a coordinated attack on Web sites including Google, Facebook and Twitter was directed at one individual, a pro-Georgian activist blogger known as Cyxymu. The attack caused a blackout of Twitter for around two hours, while Facebook said its service had been "degraded."
   
   Google said it defended its sites and was now working with the other companies to investigate the attack. "The attack appears to be directed at an individual who has a presence on a number of sites, rather than the sites themselves," a Facebook spokesman told BBC News. Other sites such as Live Journal, where Cyxymu has his blog, were also targeted in the attack on Thursday. (BBC News)
   
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   Ryan, another thing is that as far as I know, AdSense and other advertising is handled by a separate company from HubPages.  Therefore, I only sought advice from HubPages writers who have more experience with monetized sites.  I have not previously worked with any.  I do know that AdSense ads are running on my hub, and since I have no account established of my own, I wanted to know if HubPages has its own account that appears on writers' pages - a reasonable question for every literate person, and nothing acusatory about it. 
   
   Before you mention other companies to me again, you should check with them first and make sure they want you to push me to show my proof.  I have been collecting it for years, and it is irrefutable.
   
   Mary

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   Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

   Reading this should help:
   
   http://hubpages.com/faq/#royalties

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      Mary Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you so much for your response.  Please note that the link you pointed me to says that a writer sets up a Google AdSense account.  Therefore, I am still confused about it since I have none.  Please give me a yes or no, if you can.  Does HubPages automatically run Google AdSense ads on writers pages even if the writers have no AdSense account of their own?
      
      If the answer is "yes," then do writers get paid directly from HubPages?
      
      If the answer is "no," then I understand that I need to contact Google and ask the company to delete the account, since I do not know what phone no. was used to set up the account or whose bank will receive proceeds associated with my HubPages.
      
      Thanks in advance.

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         pauldeedsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Ads run whether you have an AdSense account or not, unless you turn the ads off, which you can do if your content is non-commercial.  HubPages does not make any direct payments to authors, all payments come from AdSense, eBay, Amazon, and Kontera.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

   The link I posted answers that...

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    Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

    Yes, Ads run on pages even if you do not have an Adsense account

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       Mary Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       THANK YOU!  Without an AdSense account, will HubPages pay me a share of royalties directly from HubPages?
       
       I need to know before I publicize my hubs, and I really appreciate your direct YES response.

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          pauldeedsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          No, HubPages will not pay you anything directly.  There are some sites that will, three of the best being Squidoo, Associated Content, and eHow.  You might want to check them out, it sounds like you'll just be spinning your wheels on HubPages if you can't work out the problems with your AdSense account.  Good luck.

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             Mary Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks, Paul!  I really appreciate your letting me know.  It appears from your response that the Google ads are running on my hub, but only HubPages is in a position to profit unless and until I can clear up the issue with AdSense.
             
             I appreciate all of you taking the time to respond! 
             
             Blessings!

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    Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago

    Yieldbuild is HubPages...

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       Mary Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       GOOD!  Now we are getting somewhere.  Thanks for telling me.  I tried the phone no. for YieldBuild today, but could not get a live person.
       
       The only remaining question now is since I have no separate AdSense account, will HubPages split the royalties off my hubs with me, or is it mandatory that I get through to AdSense on my own and establish an account with Google in order to get my split?

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          Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Our posts crossed.  No HubPages do not pay any authors direct - you can only earn if you have your own affiliate accounts.
          
          Once you have an account, HubPages will alternate their ads and your ads on your Hubs.  You won't get a "split" of anything even then - you'll get 100% of the income that is generated when your ads are displayed, paid direct by Adsense.

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    relacheposted 15 years ago

    HubPages is a sister company to YieldBuild and the site employs their services as it were.  No site users need to sign up for it.  You'd only do that if you wanted to use their services for your own site.  After all, you don't own the domain HubPages, you are just a site user.

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       Mary Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks, Relache!

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    Marisa Wrightposted 15 years ago

    Mary
    
    Repeating in case you missed it: 
    
    "You earn when your ads are displayed, Hubpages earns while its ads are displayed. While you don't have an account, HubPages will display its own ads."
    
    So if there are HubPages adsense ads on your Hubs (which they must be, as you don't have an affiliate code to paste into your Affiliate Settings page), then HubPages is earning. 
    
    HubPages do not pay Hub authors a share of anything - you can only earn income from your own ads. So until you can get signed up for Adsense, eBay or Amazon or a combination of those, you cannot earn anything from your Hubs.
    
    Since it's HubPages Adsense income that enables them to finance this site, I personally would not be disabling their ads - they're not doing you any harm, after all.
    
    You don't need to join Yieldbuild at all.
    
    Your only solution seems to be to let Google know that you didn't authorise the existing application and ask them to delete it so you can reapply.

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       Mary Nealposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks, Marisa!  Now I understand that HubPages runs its own ads and that revenue will not be realized by me except and until I establish my own accounts.  Since that is blocked by some computer issue right now, I simply will not publicize my hubs yet among friends and groups.  However, I enjoy writing, so I may continue to post in the meanwhile.

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          Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          It may well be worth writing some Hubs, as most Hubbers find it takes a few months for Adsense income to start flowing. If you publish the Hubs now, they will have "matured" by the time you get Adsense sorted out.
          
          Remember you can also apply for Amazon affiliate membership and add Amazon capsules to your Hub in the meantime.   It's also possible to join eBay but they are being very picky about who they sign up at the moment.

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