well check out this one, maybe it will work

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   Appletreedealsposted 15 years ago

   I've changed directions with my Hubs several times without the success I was hoping for. Maybe this one will help.
   
   I would appreciate your feedback and critique
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/campfire-cookin … dutch-oven
   
   thanks

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      LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Wow. I'm impressed.
      
      First, I didn't know about the keyhole campfire and I was a scout many (many) moons ago.
      
      I like the nice little touches too such as having to use a twig instead of a toothpick to test for doneness.
      
      My only observation is that you are using "Dutch oven" a little too often. "Oven" here and there sprinkled between "Dutch oven" will cut down on the repetition. This is tough though; there are only so many words that mean oven. Not very many in fact.
      
      It's also good that you are doing a product evaluation with some history and "flavor" thrown in for good effect. The addition of recipes is also a nice touch. "Something for everyone" as the saying goes.
      
      Finally, though seasoning cast-iron has been covered in other hubs, it is rarely covered with history, technique, recipes, and obvious direct experience. For whatever it's worth I think this is a first class hub and I want to thank you for sharing it.

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         Appletreedealsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for your kind words, and taking the time to look.
         
         But shame on you for not knowing the keyhole campfire. (lol) I taught BSA Cooking Merit Badge and it was one of the first things covered. Saves a lot of singed clothes.

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            LiamBeanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Well, shame on my scout-master.
            
            I think sunforged made a good point about off-site links. Lose them. You have enough hub material to simply redirect the traffic to more of your hubs. Certainly, good candidates would be "Campfire Recipes" which you've included and "Buy Cast-Iron" which you haven't. Keeping the bounce rate down will get you more adsense revenue.

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               Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               No, don't lose them - having outbound links to quality sites improves your Google page rank.
               
               However, I put all my outbound links in a links capsule right at the bottom of the page, below the comments box (and below the news capsule, if I've included one).  That way Google will see it, but with a bit of luck, real people won't!  (Darkside's idea, actually, not mine).

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                  sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  my comment was only half quoted
                  
                  marissa pointed it out last time you posted this hub, and now FD,...forget capsules...get rid of those links!..dont send your hardearned traffic anywhere....sure stick em in a capsule way on the bottom...def dont have them front and center in your body

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                     Appletreedealsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     I agree with both of you, sunforged, I never really wanted them in anyway, didn't make sense to give readers a reason to exit, but I'm a new hubber and was following advice.
                     
                     But I think I have better advice now (thanks all), and have buried them as suggested.
                     
                     As to Amazon, with the cast iron hubs, it was my intention to tie amazon products with the hub's content subject, I think I did. Maybe
                     
                     ps. to sunforged - checked out your "write for money online" hub, thanks a lot for the info I have signed up and am going to try out content article writing. I used your links to sign up, I hope they were affiliate links so you get the benefit. (LOL assuming I ever get paid)

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                  Appletreedealsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks Marissa, I followed your advice and did just that, get the Google benefit of the links, but don't really expose them to the reader.
                  
                  Yes I always include a news feed for search engine freshness

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               Appletreedealsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks for the comment about the links, I agree and have already moved them

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   frogdroppingposted 15 years ago

   First off - it's a great hub. Second - I'm confused. You've pretty much written what amounts to a flagship hub. Are you aiming your article at adsense or amazon? Your keyword was a little hidden - I'm assuming cast iron dutch oven?
   
   It would have been much better IMO if you'd inserted your links into a link capsule but that's personal choice. Overall, a great hub - but better you either go for adsense or amazon seperately.
   
   And if you're writing for the sheer pleasure of it - leave it alone. There's nothing wrong with writing for the sake of it

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      sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Im going to have to disagree. All of the visible ads for adsense are triggered to "cast iron....." so he has have succeeded there.
      
      I dont get why someone would focus on one or the other its so simple to trigger the ads you want with adsense they will always be there, so always optimize that option no matter what affiliate program u are ultimately targetting
      
      On a well written hub like this the adsense rev will come from less focused traffic, people who got their by accident...because anybody interested in the topic would have plenty good stuff to read and wont be clicking out in the first paragraph
      
      marissa pointed it out last time you posted this hub, and now FD,...forget capsules...get rid of those links!..dont send your hardearned traffic anywhere....sure stick em in a capsule way on the bottom...def dont have them front and center in your body

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         Appletreedealsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         sunforged - thanks for taking the time to check my hub, and the advice
         
         glad to hear your opinion on the links, really did not want to send readers away, or to free resources to compete against products I was promoting. just following previous advice about a hub needing outbound links.

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      Appletreedealsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for taking the time to look
      
      I was aiming at both, but with this hub - primarily Amazon, I'm too new to realize it should be focused on one or the other
      
      as for the links, just following advice a good hub needed links, didn't really want to send reader off-page
      
      and yes, I also enjoy writing, guess that's what makes my hubs so "wordy"

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   Appletreedealsposted 15 years ago

   once again, thanks very much to the hub community members that help in these forums. You are a hubpages asset to new hubbers

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      sunforgedposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I was tired the first time.
      
      You do not need to focus on one or the other, adsense is included on your page by default, take advantage of it always.
      
      Yes, Good hubs have outbound links, google likes 'em, but it doesnt know where you place them...put them somewhere that doesnt compete with your income related links.

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   frogdroppingposted 15 years ago

   When I said focus on one or the other - I meant that amazon success appears to come from focusing a hub on specific products and writing the hub pointing at them, either in a review format or similar - then picking out the sepcific products.
   
   Adsense is a given (if you're affiliated etc) no doubt. Check out the likes of Nelle Hoxie, Mark Knowles, Whitney and I think Relache for amazon centred hubs. There's others but these guys spring to mind. In fact I think Girly Girl and wordscribe write amazon related hubs also.

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   Mishaposted 15 years ago

   Ohhhh, I was soooooooo enjoying your pic....

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   sunforgedposted 15 years ago

   Appletree,
   
   They are not affiliate links, per say, I do not get pay per click or sign up, a few are referral links, those providers will give me a cut out of their end for any sold articles
   
   Which means, as a referral of mine, i have an invested interest in your success, so if you ever have any questions regarding that service or about anything that fits my experience, you are welcome to contact me directly via my profile

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      Appletreedealsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      LOL, thanks, you may come to regret that offer, as I will be contacted you to take you up on it.

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