Well? tell me what you think about the "trust" issue - and I'll tell you what I think - (don't I always?!)
I don't even trust your intent behind asking this question.
ah, yeh, now there's a response I can sink my teeth into! asked the question because I got nothing better to do right now - most people already know that about me, I'm surprised you hadn't caught on!
if you are a doubtful person, you cant trust anybody, we will never know if somebody is trustful or not specially online, sometimes even if we lived with a person, we never really know if we can trust them, how much more here oline...
we just learn to accept what they are saying, it is their self they are fooling anyway or if they tell baloney or lies
Come on, girl.
Ya know this is STILL the internet. I mean i pretty much trust a lot of the people i talk with but it IS still the internet.
There are still trolls and what not out there.
Just check ot the woman(?) who left a comment on my s.h.i.t. 19 hub.
This person was unverified and attacked me personally.
i don't care 'cause I'm Captain Free Speech but you have to be careful what you tell people.
Trust like trust with your secrets or trust that they keep their promises?
I think I would be a fool to try to trust someone online with a "secret" and as for promises - do you mean like "I promise not to do that again?" because I don't trust people OFFLINE when they say that - I meant more along the lines of do you trust the personality they put forward and the things they say as really being what they think and believe? as being true and honest - because it is so difficult to know (as marine says - everyone has a potential "hidden agenda" even if it is mainly marketing strategy with some) just asking . . .
A very wise man (my father) once told me
"Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see."
I try to remember that.
Because at heart I'm initially a person who trusts almost everyone until they show they can't be trusted. By then, it's often too late and they've wormed their way into my life.
But the kicker is that I've also become an unchangeable part of their life too, if only for those moments in time......unforgettable moments of course! haha
And I laugh, but it's true that each person has an effect on others, no matter how minute the incident is. Often, at some point, I've had to cut some mean people out of my life, for my own good and for their betterment too so I don't try to get vengeance. (Hey, it's good to resist temptation.)
Trust will always be incomplete, because other factors are required to form a 100% trust bond with anyone. It requires you to actually meet the person in person and then make that determination.
so here's what I think about this - I think I will trust everybody on the face of what they write in their hubs and on the forum because it seems to me that there are mainly trustworthy people who basically don't have time for deception here on HP - That said . . . (as they say on foxnews) I really wonder about some of the writers who are talking big, but misspelling it! heheh
yes, but everybody knows how naive sheep are! they trust rabid dogs who chase them off cliffs for gosh sake! (Far From the Madding Crowd) (p.s. I trust you too, denno) :
i actually hate to say this..... but i will think three times before ever trusting anything that someone tells me about themselves on hub pages. I think that is wise, as how do you know who i am, how do I know who you are.
I come on hubpages, to relate to fellow writers, but don't necessarily, need to know much about them other than that.
right - well that's prudent - but then some of the threads are just for writers to blow off a little steam and they'll say whatever comes into their creative little heads - IT SEEMS! some of what really creative people say in jest is hysterical and some is dumb, but I don't really take much of it seriously. And I actually find myself resentful when people take my jokes seriously. But then, maybe that's just their "hub persona" or is it "personae" ? Hardly anyone really asks each other true writing questions other than the generic "how can I make my hub better" . . .
I haven't quite worked up what my hidden agenda should be yet - working on it.
If I suggested your hidden agenda, it wouldn't be hidden. lol
oh come on - suggest it - nobody's really reading this and if they do they won't remember what you suggested, and if they do remember they won't know whether I actually just implemented the agenda or was doing that all along - so go ahead! tell me, tell me, tell me!
point taken - but I am foolishly brave, and believe that what I have to say is meaningful, deep and really does no harm. (watch out denno - there's that dog again) gleeful laugh! heeee eeee eeee!
yes they are! how insightful! and it is getting difficult even for me, to keep up with all my different bickers in the threads - I am having to let some of them go! anyway even I could not bicker with sweet baaaaah baaaaah baaaaah denno! I believe I'm learning your language - weyyyyy weyyyyyy weyyy!
I've been checking out your activity with great interest, kinda. You are, if not anything else, quite omnipresent.
The running sheep would know! Nice to see the pic back up.
ok - I'll tell ya - my hidden agenda USED TO BE that I would write on HP and people would read it and love me. But that was a crappy idea
so now my hidden agenda MAY OR MAY NOT be that I will say whatever pops into my febrile mind at any given moment as long as it is not too demeaning or evil or hurtful to anybody. doing no harm, I am, as always, yours
the loving hubber!
Everybody has an agenda. Mine echoes your original "write on HP so people would read it and love me." Okay, maybe not love me, but at least read what I write and comment if they enjoyed it.
I learned very quickly that some people who "follow" writers are simply trying to get followers of their own. I cherish the people who truly responded to reading something of mine and then chose to follow me.
So as far as trust goes, I am a combination of naivite & cynicism. Usually, you can find out fairly early if someone is just out to promote themselves or their agenda.
As others have pointed out, this IS the internet. I'm not the type to misrepresent myself, but apparently many use the anonymity of the internet to role play or deceive. Hopefully they are only playing and not predatorial.
I know I'm cynical enough to question some who claim to be here solely for the joy of helping others. But maybe that's my self-centered perspective.
Just as in the non-cyber world, there are mostly good people and enough not-so-good to keep you on your toes.
we do not really have to trust each other, do we? i think a lot of people on hub pages, are brilliant actors or actresses as well as writers, that is fine with me.......
like, I for one do not believe for a minute that your hair is actually that color - magenta? hot pink? and not that it has f all to do with anything. I'm usually just killing time on these forums and then once in awhile somebody says something that realy inspires me and I get a new hub going or some other piece of crap artsy writing I do.
but there have been times I've watched (listened?) to somewhat tender little relationships seemingly budding through the forums and the sarcasm in me just says - watch out! and it IS entertaining though! I just feel sorry for anyone who gets involved in that way, ya know?
yes abcd - and also cynic was the word I was looking for earlier. See I have this very verbal cynic inside me and all it takes is a little tap to make it burst out! And yet, people seldom get offended, that is when they are really reading what I write - I have yet to make any money off this HP writing, but it continues to amuse. so I am not a good marketer - someday, my niche will come! ♪♪♪
Snakes take many shapes & forms by using camouflage. Two legged snakes do the same. Some must learn the hard way & end up getting scammed. Others learn by using caution & end up being safe. Still others play with fire even when they know it burns. So what's my point? Better safe than sorry.
..."someday, my niche will come! ♪♪♪"
Love that mega. I hope it's all you hope for and more!
now I KNOW I can really trust you denno - I always can trust confused people! :
So THAT'S your hidden agenda! Confusing everyone!
shhhhhh (lookingaround furtively ) Don't tell! its after 5 now - gotta go for awhile!
I'll be unconfused by the time you get back, I'll have you know.
I honestly believe that "trust builds trust", flaunt it and you'll regret losing the opportunity to know how you fare outside of yourself. No man is an island, be trustful and live life the trusted hubbers' ways.
I neglected to say I think it works the same way no matter where a person is, in life or here in "cyberlife" at hub pages.
I agree with you about everything except this - I find it even more difficult to trust online because I depend so much on my senses to tell me what a person truly means when they speak and their gestures etc. So online you can't hear or see or touch or any of that - you have to just read their words, and since I find it hard to believe some of the words I read here I get to wondering about how much of it I will choose to consider and trust - that's why I try to keep it light and never go into the religious or political forums where I know I would vehemently disagree with some people and probably get in trouble. I can tell a lot by the tone of some people's hubs and posts and by their knowledge of language - but I could be fooled at any time. I guess we just have to be careful with what info we share and how we do it!
Yes I am back here trying to confuse poor denno - and lyrics - I still am wondering about what you were doing with yur thumb there! in the pic I mean!
I don't put full trust in people online but I do put a little. though sadly ppl do take advantage of this and have hurt me because of it...
I know that is true - and that's one reason I brought up this subject - there must be ways to fine-tune our insight about people we only see in the forums - and hubs. I often don't know how to interpret things people say. I think these smiley face guys help a lot don't you? like -
I agree with you on that one mega...but also the whole able to make other accounts is a problem...
Hey cags...just about to hop off for dinner...just got back from the movies I'll write a hub about it later...ttyl guys
I'd like to know what happened to even bring this trust issue up??
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