Is it profitable to start serious hubpages journey in 2019

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  1. Marchello profile image60
    Marchelloposted 5 years ago

    I have some SEO experience and I used to rank my own sites in google.
    Now I don't have time or the money to build huge authority websites by my own.
    HP has good reputation and I thought to hire somebody to write me articles around certain topics which I would publish on HP.
    Regarding my question...
    I would invest around 400$ for articles and then I would optimize them by myself.
    So...
    How long does it take to rank articles on top spots on google?
    How much money can be earned from 1k views from google?

    According to semrush https://www.semrush.com/info/pethelpful.com
    There is huge opportunity here and on other sub sites like pethelpful.com.

    Any advice is more then appreciated. Thanks.

    1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image79
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Why would people write for you when they can post their own work and make passive inome for years?  Your plan makes no sense.  Furthermore, HP requires you to write your own articles...so you'd be inviolation of the TOS and could be banned if they catch you using the work of others.  This site is not a money machine.  It's a site for people who want to produce quality work and earn what they can as they go.  Most make very little, but some do quite well.  However t takes years, sometimes, to learn the ropes.  If you're not willing to spend the time to do things the right way and learn what you need to do, you're in the wrong place.

      1. DrMark1961 profile image98
        DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Where in the TOS does it say that you must write your own articles? Can you please kwote this. (sorry for the misspelling)

    2. TessSchlesinger profile image61
      TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      The writers who know how to write for hubpages successfully know how to rank. It takes me about four or five hours to write a decent article.

      I'm not sure who many articles you are expecting for that $400, but I would write one article for it.

      It just isn't worth my time.

  2. Rupert Taylor profile image95
    Rupert Taylorposted 5 years ago

    The plan outlined here isn't going to work for you. How many high-quality articles are you going to get for $400? Two, maybe three. Certainly, there are folks who will churn out many more than that for $400 but the output is going to be low quality. That means few impressions = low revenue.

    Most of us write here for coffee money. From what I've heard you need about 1,000 daily impressions to earn the monthly payout of $50 and you need a few hundred articles to achieve that.

  3. psycheskinner profile image78
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    I could see it working if you know exact areas to target and competent content writers on Fiverr who benefit from the extra value of US dollars in their home countries.  Neither of these is easy things to get right.

  4. theraggededge profile image87
    theraggededgeposted 5 years ago

    One guy here has bought up a few accounts from other hubbers. He only considers accounts that are doing well, pays them a mutually acceptable lump sum based on earnings and simply tweaks them to keep them up to date.

    1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image79
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      That's different from paying people to write basic articles that you present as being your own.

      1. theraggededge profile image87
        theraggededgeposted 5 years agoin reply to this

        I know smile It's just another way of doing things. It's essentially farming articles that aren't your own.

    2. P FOR PEONY profile image76
      P FOR PEONYposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      That's actually quite smart, if you don't really want to put in the time writing/is bad at it and have the capital for the initial buy-overs.

  5. DrMark1961 profile image98
    DrMark1961posted 5 years ago

    If you are talking about $400 total, you are not going to get many well written articles, but maybe (like psycheskinner suggested) you can find some content writers on a site like Fiverr.
    To answer your kwestions (my letter kew just stopped working!), the time for an article to rank in the top three of Google varies a lot. My top performer was written in 2014, my second in 2018, the next in 2013. They are all at the top, but it took anywhere from a few months to a few years to get there. I have had a few move up to that spot really fast, but usually there is no competition for the phrase, which means it is not highly searchable. (A phrase that has low traffic.)
    As far as earnings, with 1000 page views you will have about 500 (or fewer) impressions. That is because 40% belongs to Hubpages, the host, and you will get no impressions if the reader does not stay around long enough for the ads to load, or if the reader has an ad~blocker.
    From 500 impressions you are paid 2-5 USD per 1000, so you will end up with $1-3 dollars.
    It is not much, so as TT2 points out, if you are just in this for the money it is not the best income source. If you want to earn faster invest some money and try to do what theraggededge suggests. (If you only have a total of $400 to invest that is not going to work.)

    1. sirama profile image94
      siramaposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Mark. I typed (kwestions => questions ) in this reply. Then right clicked on the red squiggly line (Spell suggestion) and selected correct spelling through suggestion. May be you know it.
      This will do for not working keys.


      https://hubstatic.com/14540837.png

      1. DrMark1961 profile image98
        DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks I will have to try that! We use that letter a lot in my native language so it is very frustrating when I am chatting with someone on Facebook messenger and cannot use it.

  6. Brenda Arledge profile image80
    Brenda Arledgeposted 5 years ago

    Sorry but i do not feel this would be a great investment if you are looking for immediate income.  Slow is the pace.

  7. Susana S profile image94
    Susana Sposted 5 years ago

    I've paid writers before now. It's a worthwhile strategy if you're good at finding potentially high traffic titles, know how to write for an online audience, know how to optimise your pages and can wait for your hubs to mature.

  8. Bills Place profile image77
    Bills Placeposted 5 years ago

    I tried hiring someone to write articles early on (2012 early), it didn't work out at all. Although the article itself looked quality, when I uploaded I got a mark for it being a "spun article". Apparently they didn't actually write it, but spun it and cleaned it up... something to think about.

    Somewhere around 8 years on the site now, I have had the time to write a whole 38 articles, with 32/38 being featured. I average 50-100 views per day at the moment and $0.25 - $0.35/day in revenue.

    In my whole time here, I've had about 5-6 sales commissions, my last one ($0.82) was deducted 5 days later (blah). So, I don't really focus on that and let it be a bonus at this point.

    That said, running a small content writing company (HD Writing Co.), I don't see how hiring a writer would be against TOS long as the writer hands over full rights to the article upon delivery. Could someone explain that to me as well? How is it different than someone hiring a ghostwriter, registering a copyright and publishing the content?

  9. Oscarlites profile image72
    Oscarlitesposted 5 years ago

    Personally speaking, I would like someone to show me how to generate traffic on this hub site. The only traffic I can generate is when for instance, I rewrite my entire 115 hubs.  after which I only get local hubbers that read for a day or so, then I drop to zero views again.  There is no residual traffic here.    I don't have the interlinked websites to draw traffic off of so I have to be satisfied with having 109 featured hubs, with the remaining 6 not featured, but no $, and no continuous interest or views. Zero outside traffic.  Its very inbred.

    1. CYong74 profile image96
      CYong74posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      You have very few hubs on the niche sites, and ugly fact is, those are where traffic is. Going through your profile, the only niche site you're on seems to be Letterpile, and that's the one that has never done well (fiction doesn't work well with SEO).

      You should submit your better hubs to the niche sites whenever possible, that being once every two weeks. Also, some of your titles aren't exactly search engine friendly. Some tweaking is necessary.

    2. DrMark1961 profile image98
      DrMark1961posted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Your article on video cameras in trucks would be a great fit for Soapboxie but you need to visit that site and see what changes you need to make before submitting it to HP.
      A lot of your other truck articles would be okay for Axleaddict but need improvement. (Like being broken up into multiple capsules, some reader interaction, subtitles in the APA style, etc).
      Not sure where you could put the religious articles, and not sure they are going to do that well on the internet. If you are interested in traffic there are many, many things you could write on trucks/trucking/maintenance/etc.

    3. TessSchlesinger profile image61
      TessSchlesingerposted 5 years agoin reply to this

      Some of my articles have had monthly traffic day in, day out for the full four years I've been here. As I transferred those articles from another site, I can say the article were well read on other sites as well.

      It depends what you write, how you write, and whether you make full use of SEO methods, plus illustrate your articles well.

  10. Oscarlites profile image72
    Oscarlitesposted 5 years ago

    Thanks for the suggestions,  cyong 74.

  11. theraggededge profile image87
    theraggededgeposted 5 years ago

    It is, of course, much easier to blame HubPages for lack of success than to acknowledge that it is one's own work that ensures plenty of traffic and earnings. The truth is, that there are many people here who make quite decent money because they have worked out how to write articles that attract readers.

  12. lobobrandon profile image86
    lobobrandonposted 5 years ago

    One article can make you that 400 and back within a year if it's good. 100 articles at 4 a piece could not make you a dollar. It's all about quality and writing the right stuff in the right way. If you find the right writer and know how to work with the content to make it rank well, it definitely is something that can give you a very good ROI.

 
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