I want to write an unpopular hub

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  1. TimArends profile image86
    TimArendsposted 4 years ago

    I want to write a hub that I don't think will be very popular with the HubPages establishment (and maybe many of its regulars): Why Donald Trump Will Win Reelection in 2020.

    I say this not only because HubPages tends to frown on Conservative hubs, based on a careful study of the recommendations in its Related Hubs section, which tend to be overwhelmingly liberal, but also because HP prefers "Evergreen" hubs, or hubs that will remain relevant for a long time.

    So I guess I'm asking about alternatives to HP, perhaps those that focus on politics (but without being a "ghetto" that nobody visits). I'm not looking to make money, just for a place like HP where there's a chance of an audience and I can write without having to go through an elaborate approval process.

    1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image84
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Why not start your own site?

      1. Will Apse profile image89
        Will Apseposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        But then he would have to rely on that terrible bastion of the liberal elite called "Google" who probably already have his name.

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        Stevennix2001posted 4 years agoin reply to this

        Can you really  travel through time?  yikes

        1. TimArends profile image86
          TimArendsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          No, but I did predict Trump winning about a week before the 2006 election, at a time when all the polls said he wouldn't.

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      Stevennix2001posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      lol  I can think of a few ideas.  wink

    3. lobobrandon profile image88
      lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Not true at all. The Popular section is based on what people are reading. This is also what the word means in the English language, the only language one is allowed to write in here on HP.

      If you want an audience, write it up and then give it a shout out on the topical forums, there are many who would love to read it. Not me.

      1. TimArends profile image86
        TimArendsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        No, I'm not talking about the Popular section. I'm talking about the Related section, like the Related suggestion on your SEO hub "Free Ways of Getting Traffic to Your Website" which is related to SEO.

        My own informal investigation shows that pro-conservative and especially pro-Trump hubs tend to get anti-Trump suggestions in the Related section, while anti-Trump hubs ALSO get anti-trump suggestions in the Related section.

        Not too surprising, I guess, considering that HP is headquartered in San Fran, one of the most liberal cities in the union.

        1. lobobrandon profile image88
          lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

          The related section is the same as the popular articles, just that they don't pick the popular ones from a category on the niche site, but they pick articles with shared keywords that are popular. That is why I kind of have a lot of my own hubs showing up on my tomato hubs as popular because they are the ones getting a lot of traffic and contain the word tomato.

          If you write a lot of hubs or if a lot of hubs that are pro Trump get a lot of traffic they will show up on the anti-Trump pages too.

          Why would you think HP would even bother investing in making sure that anti-Trump pages are shown and not the other way around. If that was their goal, they could achieve it far easier by just not allowing your hubs to move to a niche site by pointing some flaw or another. Faster and a cheaper solution.

          1. TimArends profile image86
            TimArendsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            What I see on your tomato hub are 4 out of 5 hubs in the Related section that mention tomatoes while in the Popular section are hubs about the more general category of "food." So your claim that "The related section is the same as the popular articles, just that they don't pick the popular ones from a category on the niche site" is irrelevant.

            On the other hand, your claim that "If you write a lot of hubs or if a lot of hubs that are pro Trump get a lot of traffic they will show up on the anti-Trump pages too" is simply false. I'm talking about an effort by HubPages to KEEP pro-Trump pages from getting traffic by not including them in the Related section, a form of shadowbanning,

            1. lobobrandon profile image88
              lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              You don't seem to understand how it works. A category is "food" for instance not tomatoes on the niche site. It's totally relevant.

              Either way, you asked for help, had a totally wrong understanding of how HP worked and I tried to help give you the right info. Do what you want with it.

              Do you have a lot of traffic on your Pro-Trump article, if not, your info on the topic is irrelevant unless you know of another hubber getting a lot of traffic and more than the anti-Trump hubs, yet does not show.

              1. TimArends profile image86
                TimArendsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                "Do you have a lot of traffic on your Pro-Trump article, if not, your info on the topic is irrelevant unless you know of another hubber getting a lot of traffic and more than the anti-Trump hubs, yet does not show."

                "Amount of traffic" is not relevant on the Related section, only on the Popular section. Look at the names of the sections, It's pretty much self-explanatory. "Related" is, or should be, those hubs that most closely match the keywords and theme of the hub on which they appear, regardless of traffic. "Popular" is the general category into which the hub falls, containing the hubs which have the most traffic. Not rocket science.

            2. Sherry Hewins profile image93
              Sherry Hewinsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

              It is not really much of an advantage being featured in the "Related" section anyway. For your hub to be successful it will need to get traffic from the search engines. So, even if your theory was true (which I don't think it is) that would not prevent your hub from getting traffic.

              I'm afraid there is a lot of competition on this subject on the Internet though. Plenty of people who get paid to analyze these things. So, you need to have a really unique insight. Even if you do, it's just hard to get found if you haven't established a reputation.

    4. Sherry Hewins profile image93
      Sherry Hewinsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Your hub does not have to be popular with HP or anyone who writes here. As long as it does not break any rules, and is well-written enough to be featured, you will be at the mercy of Google. If it can't attract the attention of the search engines here, it probably won't anywhere else either.

    5. TimArends profile image86
      TimArendsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Just wanted to say that I have published my hub with Hubpages and i am happy with the treatment of it here! My article was selected for a HubPages Network site and it has even gotten a few comments. Thanks to all for the advice.

      https://hubpages.com/politics/Why-Donal … lection-In

  2. Rupert Taylor profile image96
    Rupert Taylorposted 4 years ago

    Timothy, you already wrote "No Joke! 50 Ways Donald Trump will Make America Great Again" in 2017. How's that working for you?

    1. TimArends profile image86
      TimArendsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      He's up to about 25, but unfortunately, he's lagging on the Wall. Not sure how that answers the original question, however.

  3. PaulGoodman67 profile image95
    PaulGoodman67posted 4 years ago

    Just write and publish the hub. You don't need to run it by the forums. I wrote a hub on 20 reasons why the European Union is likely to collapse. It made it to Soapboxie, gets a few views and earns very little money. I don't think that's due to a liberal conspiracy though. Opinion pieces are fun to produce but the public aren't generally very interested unless you have a name and reputation.

    1. greenmind profile image95
      greenmindposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      +1

    2. TimArends profile image86
      TimArendsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      You're right. The fact that no one can name a more conservative-leaning site similar to HubPages convinces me that there probably is none.

      1. lobobrandon profile image88
        lobobrandonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        That's your takeaway from Pauls reply. Wow.

  4. Will Apse profile image89
    Will Apseposted 4 years ago

    Most of my hubs are declining in popularity at the moment. I hate to be gloomy but i reckon the end is approaching. For me, at least.

    Had a good run though, lol. A ten year break in sunny climes is not to be sniffed at...

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    TonyaRogersposted 4 years ago

    Well, there are a lot of variants to add the hub, but what do you need the really unpopular one to do? Please, clarify.

    https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2017/03/02/09/26/question-mark-2110767_960_720.jpg

    1. TimArends profile image86
      TimArendsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I want to explain why Trump will win based on psychology and a knowledge of American history, regardless of variable and unpredictable factors such as the state of the economy at the time of the election.

      1. Will Apse profile image89
        Will Apseposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        I think a more interesting piece would describe how and why you fell in love.

  6. Rupert Taylor profile image96
    Rupert Taylorposted 4 years ago

    Just write the damn thing and see what happens.

    1. FatFreddysCat profile image95
      FatFreddysCatposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      What he said.

    2. TimArends profile image86
      TimArendsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      The support of my fellow Hubbers is touching.

      1. Will Apse profile image89
        Will Apseposted 4 years agoin reply to this

        C'mon, this thread is a wonderful confirmation of your worldview. What could be more supportive?

  7. Dolores Monet profile image94
    Dolores Monetposted 4 years ago

    Sherry said it all. You have to ask yourself the question "who cares what I think?" If I wrote a liberal opinion piece no one would read it. If I wrote several liberal opinion pieces, no one would read them. People seek out the opinions of those in the know, people with reputations. Maybe you would do better on a blog site. That way you would not feel the Hubpages is not standing in your way.

 
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