Why my name is being used in connection with hubpages on Chinese sites

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   TessSchlesingerposted 2 years ago

   These are  a typical example.
   
   http://www.sj-group.kr/2021/06/23/tessa … pages-2-2/
   
   https://tree-stores.com/tessa-schlesinger-on-hubpages/
   
   http://www.satconus.com/tessa-schlesing … ubpages-3/
   
   
   
   
   
   There are so many of them, and Gogole Alert keeps letting me know when a new one gos up.
   
   How do I stop this?  And how did it get started? It's not as if I am a well knowm, world famous writer.
   
   Thank you.
   

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      tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting . . . looking at the links it is obvious they are not your articles and using your name only as the bait. FYI, curiously, I began to type your name in my search bar on Google. I got Tessa typed in and as soon as I put Sch bam your full name appeared in the Google suggest list. How about that? Maybe you are famous at least with my search.
      
      I don't see any take down viable at this time. Maybe if your name was trademarked you would. I don't know . . .

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         TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, my name is in predictive text. I discovered that quite by accident when someone pointed it out about six years ago. I was gobsmacked.
         
         I think the fact that I'm an author and a lot of my books have 5 stars have something to do with it. The fact that I've sold very few of them doesn't seem to matter much. Actually, I don't know why my name is in predictive text. Google put it there. Not sure why.
         
         Hope my name wasn't trademarked. Can someone do that? It's my name, and as far as I know, I'm the only Tessa Schlesinger in the world.

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            tsmogposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            You peaked my curiosity once more. Trademarks are as cheap as $49 USD at online sites. However, trademarking personal names is not as easy as filing out a form. For info go to Let's Get Personal - Trademark Protection for Personal Names. It is from a law site of course U.S. law. A trademark must be associated with a product/service. I don't see how someone else could do it for your name.
            
            Also, looking about I found an article about using someone's name or likeness for profit nefariously. I did not read all of it, yet I think one thing to prove it is your name and not viewed as a common name is the fact they include HubPages with their bait. Here is the link if interested, Using the Name or Likeness of Another
            
            So, it seems if you wanted to sue a trademark need not be necessary. Again, this is for U.S. law and those sites seemed to China originated and I think you are in Europe.

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               TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Yup, I'm currently in Germany. Thanks for the link. I will use that. I don't think my name was used for profitability. I think there are two possibilities.
               
               1. Someone mistakenly thought that I was famous and thought people google me. They don't. I have no knowledge of anyone every googling me. I'm a nobody.
               
               2. Someone did it out of malice. I upset people. Rather my views upset people. And they did it for some nefarious reason. I have no idea what.

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                  Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Tessa, right? You're a nobody? I read you right.                                  Honestly, I did a little search online after Tim(tsmog). And this is what I found. You start writing at 11 years. And you're after your father, right? You wrote some books and publish lots of articles. Your online presense seems to be known to me in the forum, for example, at Medium. The wider space can make some jealeous towards you. Sorry my friend.

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                     TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     I genuinely find that difficult to believe. It would, however, explain a lot.
                     
                     I've just come back to add some more to this. Your comment hit me between the eyes - about jealousy.
                     
                     I've had a tremenous amount of that from others throughout my life. I just can't imagine why. But it's the only thing that makes sense.
                     
                     Google puts the names of people into predictive text because a lot of people search for them. I just don't understand how my name got there. Can you remember the name of one journalist or article writer? I honestly can't.
                     
                     The only thing I can think of is that it automatically puts the names of authors into predictive text. I also have a Google panel. I've never bothered to fill it in, but that's the panel that comes up if people search for you. It's generally for famous people. I have no idea why Google has given me one, but it has.

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                        Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        Tessa, why Google dare to put you name among the famous persons beats my brain and thinking faculty.                                              As an eperienced computer programming person, don't you think you can write an article or two, that can link those Chinese or Arabic links? So that if visitors visit those spun articles bearing your name, they also read your refutal. Its my idea and suggestion. But I don't have the expertise though I learn computer programming in the university. Have you contact the editor at Hubpages for advice on the challenge? They should be aware at least that your original article on the hubpages' site is being link to a spun and distorted stories.

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                           TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           Yup. Well, I don't know either.

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                              Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                              You should not let matter end there and unresolved.

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                                 TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                                 ++++

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   NateB11posted 2 years ago

   It seems to me to be the common mode of operation for these guys. They copy and publish, and retain author and website on the new site they publish it on.

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      CYong74posted 2 years agoin reply to this

      But they jumble up our content with sensitive keywords like online casino. That part I never figure out why.

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         TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Yup.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I'm confused. They're not publishing my stories. They are just using my name. And there's just gibberish on the site.

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         NateB11posted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Okay, I don't like to click links to questionable sites so I didn't actually look at it; but if it's jumbled up words, they must have spun the articles but retained author name for recognition maybe.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            It's not articles. If you don't look at it, you won't know what it is. I've clicked on them many times. I was actually waiting for someone who works in tech at hubpages to tell me what it is.
            
            I'm wondering they are used for space holders while web designers are using them, and then it's not removed afterwards.
            
            Please don't guess. I actually need to speak to someone who knows what they are. Don't hubpage staff look at this?

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               NateB11posted 2 years agoin reply to this

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                  Moondot1822posted 2 years agoin reply to this

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                     TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     On hubpages, when people don't like what I say, regardless of how factual it is, they call me arrogant, rude, personally attack me, etc. It's why I dont' write on the platform anymore. I'm also very sure, it's one of the many reasons so many people have left.

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                        Moondot1822posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        I can understand what you mean to say. I have looked at your articles and didn't find them based on rudeness or egotism. Many authors don't even reply to the questions properly that are asked to them. I have noticed many times that you have replied to everyone and even helped people. That's why I have said that he misunderstood you.

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                           TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           Yup. So try to figure out why the response was made. What do you think?

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                  TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  No, I'm not being rude. I am merely pointing out that unless one clicks on it, one can't know what it is. And if one doesn't know what it is, then one cannot answer the question.
                  
                  I might have been mistaken in thinking that someone from hubpages would answer something about something technical (surely they are the only people who would know the technical ins and outs of what is going on in hubpages), but that is all I am guilty of.
                  
                  Americans have a habit of thinking that a direct statement is being rude. No, it actually isn't.
                  
                  Also, if my articles were so rude and arrogant, I would hardly be classed a top writer on Medium.

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                  TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Sorry, not true. This, on the other hand, is hate speech.

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                  Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  Nate, Tessa was not being rude or arrogant. You misunderstood her but the way you responded was definitely rude and arrogant.
                  
                  Tessa for you, please contact team@hubpages something similar happened to me as well. I also posted few links on the forums a few weeks back but I didn't know that those websites were containing viruses. One of my friends, clicked the link and was troubled. That's why people don't like to click on links given on forums. I hope you can understand that. I hope team@hubpages will help you in the most appropriate way. They are always helping. If, it's a Chinese site there's really nothing to worry about.
                  They keep on doing this to almost everyone. There are plenty of my articles on chinese sites. I have never cared about the Chinese ones.
                  Many Blessings to you!

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                     TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     Thank you.
                     
                     I guess I am experienced enough not to post links with viruses. I started programming computers in 1994 and started on the web in 1994. I have been working on the web since 1999.
                     
                     I suspect that my articles and name are used by a particularly web design company and is being used as place markers on various sites. If you look at the actual sites, they are professional sites - engineering sites, clothing sites, whatever. There is no link to my name. I doubt those companies even know that page is there. I have written to a few to ask them who designed their sites, plus provided a link to mine, explaining to them that they are in guilty of copyright infringement. I have asked for the name of the company who set up their website.
                     
                     Now I'm not sure if that is the situation, and that's why I need someone who has greater technical knowledge than I have.
                     
                     Thank you for your support. I am neither rude nor arrogant. What I am is direct. But there is never intention to harm someone else.

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                        Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        Tessa, you've speak well for yourself. Thanks.

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                           TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           ++++++++

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                        Misbah786posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        I appreciate that, Tessa
                        Blessings!

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                           TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           ++++++

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                     Kenna McHughposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     It happened to me too.

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                        TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        You clicked on a link and it was a virus?

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               Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

               Tess, sorry. The pain is big. Hope a tech savvy enthusiast here wades in even from hubpages staff.

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                  TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                  There is nothing rude or arrogant about this response. I will write to Hubpages and ask someone. I just don't get why anyone would respond to a question about something technical that only people who work for hubpages would know.
                  
                  I also don't understand why they would be offended and think it's arrogant. As for my articles being offensive and arrogant, that's simply not true. My articles are factual.

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                     Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                     Tess or Tessa? Which's correct? Okay I'll have a go at any one of your article just for the tasting. Bingo!

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                        TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        My name is Tessa. Tess is a shortened form of it. I don't particularly like the name, but at the time that I wrote it, there was a reason why I couldn't use my given name.
                        
                        Do tell me if you find anything arrogant and egotistical about it. I would love to know.

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                        Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

                        Tessa? I like this lovely name. While I just returned from visiting the wounded soldier, and the story about the christian Bible.                                    Seriously, I found no arrogance or egotism in either. But both are controversal, more seriously the Bible.                                             Critically, the Jehovah Witness assert that they New World Translation is the best and more execellent, I prefer the King James Version, and its sister  NKJV.                                         Significantly, the sources you use are equally not accepted by the various church or faith group. So peoples reactions would be best describe as attacking. And since you're no longer within the christian fold, it's easy to find the majority of your attackers within the christian community.

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                           TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

                           And that's the real reason for the attacks on me. I am a liberal, a progressive, and an atheist. It's not that I am arrogant, or rude, or anti-American, or the thousand other things that I have been attacked for or blocked for. It's simply that my reasoning is often clear and cannot be dismissed.
                           
                           So I am attacked for it - over and over again.

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            Miebakagh57posted 2 years agoin reply to this

            Likely so.

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         Matt Wellsposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         Try filing a complaint with Google. You may be able to get these pages removed from search results. Here is the link.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            +++++++++++ Thank you. Will do. Matt, it seems to be happening to a lot of writers on hubpages, so it means it isn't personal just with me.

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   Miebakagh57posted 2 years ago

   Are these guys making money out of your name? Just curious. Thought I could not figure out the issue.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I doubt they make money. At a guess, because I am a progressive politically and an atheist, somone has been using my name in order to link my name to spam or something. That's a guess.
      
      I think it is a particular web design company, and I'm now gathering evidence for Google to remove the whole lot from the web. But first I want to know more about it.

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   Dolores Monetposted 2 years ago

   It certainly is off putting to find your name on some weird site. After reading this I checked out my own name and a few articles similar to what you described popped up. Other hubbers might want to check out their own names and see how many times our names have been attached to gibberish. I, like  you, would like to hear from someone in the know to explain the point of this kind of online behavior.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I have filled in a form on the hubpages help page, and hopefully someone will come back to me. I did wonder if it had happened to someone else as well.

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   eugbugposted 2 years ago

   I just Googled my name + Hubpages and came across a couple of sites using it.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      That's interesting. Have you got any personal opinion on why this is happening. I'm glad to know it's not only me. It appears to a lot of people on Hubpages.
      
      What is the most likely explanation?

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         eugbugposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         I've no idea, but I'm sure there's a reason for it. I often come across sites with content scraped from my articles, but it's just illegible garbage with text fragments strung together. I guess those behind it use automated tools to gather keywords and phrases and stick them together and presumably add ads too in the hope that Googlers will land on the pages. This contrasts with plagiarists manually copying articles and the copied results are laid out more comprehensibly. Maybe the person's name is deliberately extracted and used to give the pages some authority? (perhaps sometimes when people search for a topic they use a name they've seen often?)

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            TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            I'm a bit of a cynic. I've never remembered the name of any article writer or journalist (unless a journalist wins a Pulitzer Prize or something). I find it difficult to believe that sites would use the names of people who write articles to draw traffic. I can understand them using famous names, but not people who are unknown. And I really do think all article writers are unknown.
            
            It doesn't happen with Medium or Quora or any of the other sites I've written on, and it appears to have happened with a lot of writers on hubpages. So i think this is a hubpages think, for some reason writers on hubpage have been scraped.
            
            Possibly somebody who knows hubpages started doing it.

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      Ken Burgessposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I did the same, very interesting to see the results, and how many odd sites it has been connected to.

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         TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         ++++

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   psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago

   I think these are just automated sites that scrape other sites for words and mush them together to try and get search engine traffic.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      +++ That's terrible. How do I get it off?

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      Solarasposted 2 years agoin reply to this

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         TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

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            Solarasposted 2 years agoin reply to this

            I have read through all of your comments on this thread, from swatting down Nate for daring to respond to your inquiry, to comments like this:
            
            "And that's the real reason for the attacks on me. I am a liberal, a progressive, and an atheist. It's not that I am arrogant, or rude, or anti-American, or the thousand other things that I have been attacked for or blocked for. It's simply that my reasoning is often clear and cannot be dismissed."
            
            OMG - Is that the real reason???? One can only truly know one's self through the eyes of others.  And you are going to report me lol.  Be my guest.

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               TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

               I was not
               'swatting down' Nate. Nobody else saw it that way. One has to be extremely self-absorbed to see my stated expectations of what I was looking for to be seen as an ego put-down against someone else.
               
               My understanding was that if there was a tech problem to do with Hubpages, this was where one came. As the only people who can answer that are the tech people at Hubpages, I fail to see why I was being rude.
               
               Nobody else saw my comment to Nate the way you and Nate see it. You have to ask yourself why you see it that way.
               
               I have already reported you, and I will continue to report everybody who personal attack. There was NO PERSONAL ATTACK on Nate. That's all inside your head.

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   psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago

   The goal is most likely to improve the stats of the base website they post the scraped pages on in some way by getting extra traffic, including people attracted by the use of their name.

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      Solarasposted 2 years agoin reply to this

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         psycheskinnerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

         There is another strategy of just sending traffic to people's sites to get traffic from them looking to see who it was.  So between people looking for their own name and then asking why people are doing it, it must be worth it.  It's automated after all so it takes them zero effort to throw on a name as well as all those keywords.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      That's hilarious. I can assure anybody that nobody searches for me.

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   psycheskinnerposted 2 years ago

   As it is not technically plagiarism, and they are not using US-based servers, there may not be anything you can do.  But they are using the HubPages name which I assume is trademarked or some such, maybe they will have some ideas.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      I have written to hubpages to ask them about it. Some of the work are copies of my articles, but not all. I am just trying to collect as much data as possible before I email Google about copyright.

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   TessSchlesingerposted 2 years ago

   For those who insist on bullying me, harassing me, falsely accusing me, I've had this for a decade on Hubpages now. I am reporting all of you for hate speech and personal attack.
   
   You are absolutely wrong in your remarks. I am not guilty (and never have been) of anything you have accused me of. You have chosen to find me guilty because, in the past, I made mince meat of your arguments.
   
   Please cease and desist.

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