Editor criteria? Angry

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  1. robhampton profile image93
    robhamptonposted 3 years ago

    So.. What exactly is the criteria for a HP editor? I'm convinced that you need no more than a 3rd grade education to be an editor. Example.. a pool article about DE filters... I have a clear, perfect, professional picture of a DE filter. My own picture, not copyrighted. Editors replace this title picture with some flowers background? Really? Editors have caused my traffic to plummet! My articles about swimming pools now belong in the children's niche because they all look like a clown wrote these articles. I know nobody cares, just need to vent about the editing. What are they thinking? The editing is ridiculous! Do they even understand that not only am I, as the author am losing out, but they are losing revenue as well? As the old saying goes.. "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"  Meaning.. If it's ranking well on Google, if it's generating revenue, then LEAVE IT ALONE!!! If Google likes it, why change it?
    Another example, and this is just a small example compared to the number of ridiculously stupid edits that have been made : A pool chemical "stabilizer". ok.. They have edited this several times (because I reverted it back each time) to "stabilizers". I finally had to email them to explain that this is a chemical. This is NOT plural.. Like saying "there's too much chlorines in the pool" I needed to stress that this is not a car part or "stabilizers" like in car shocks.
    How do I get the point across to these editors to stop FKING with my articles? Especially when they have absolutely no professional knowledge of what I am writing about? And also the fact that my articles have already been edited. Yes, I understand editing to keep it fresh, but my articles, after having been edited at least 20 times since 2010, no longer convey the original content or intent. At this point I'm embarrassed to tell people to go to "my hubpages website and check out my articles" only because my articles are no longer mine because they have been edited into oblivion. My niche is specific and I want quality but it seems like these editors are ruining that and changing quality into, well, I'm not even sure what. I'm losing because of these horrible editors, and so is hubpages.

    1. robhampton profile image93
      robhamptonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      And yes, I know everybody on this site hates me and I'll get a bunch of negative replies, but again, I don't care. Editors need to be educated. They understand nothing about SEO as in Titles that are perfectly fine with good SEO keywords, they change it. WHY??? They are only hurting Maven/hubpages

      1. Kyler J Falk profile image88
        Kyler J Falkposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        I'm afraid I am not even sure who you are, and this is the first time I've ever seen a post from you that I can recall. I have no feelings one way or the other about you. However, I do have nearly the same feelings you do about HubPages staff.

        That being said, ignore them, revert the changes, and they most likely will not do anything to revert them again for some time. You're correct when you say you're the experienced one in the situation, and I'd only make a big deal about it all if they revert your own edits in an egregiously short timeframe afterward.

        I'm sure a comprehensive email encompassing your desires would have this all over and done with, assuming HP staff listens wholeheartedly and in earnest.

        1. robhampton profile image93
          robhamptonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Hey Kyle, thanks for chiming in. Looked at your profile, you have a lot featured articles.. congrats!! You're doing well. I've been with hp for 11 years,  a lot has changed. I get that editing is necessary,  but I guess I just wonder sometimes what in the world is going through their minds sometimes with some of the really weird changes they make.

    2. chef-de-jour profile image97
      chef-de-jourposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Puzzling. Surely the HP editing team are aware of the loss of traffic and revenue following their editing? I hope someone is monitoring the figures on a regular basis? If not then someone should be. They definitely should not be altering facts or introducing ambiguity, that is a no no.
      I recommend you send them some detailed, diplomatic emails - in my experience working with editors can be stimulating and productive but a balance has to be reached.

      1. robhampton profile image93
        robhamptonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks for the reply. I've seen other forum topics in the past complaining about the editing process, you'd think they would be aware but seems as this is an ongoing problem..again, basing this on some not so far in the past  posts about editors

    3. HubPages profile imageSTAFF
      HubPagesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Rob. I'm sorry to hear that you're frustrated. You're right that our editors are not experts in every single topic they edit. The beauty of this community of authors is its diversity. We cherish the expertise that our authors bring to the table, and though we wish we could be experts in everything from pool care and automotive repair to how to bleach your eyebrows or what to do about a split toenail, that just isn't feasible.

      That said, our editors are experts in terms of SEO and editing. Unfortunately, the old "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" saying doesn't apply to Google. All content—even content that performs extremely well—needs the occasional edit in order to signal to Google that it's still relevant and fresh. Our editors are kept current on each Google Algorithm update as well as the most current SEO trends. They do their best to bring this knowledge to each and every edit they perform.

      When editing, editors do their best to modify author content sensitively and ensure that technical terms and explanations remain accurate. We appreciate you letting us know about the specific errors you've encountered. I've alerted the team to the "stabilizer" vs. "stabilizers" issue, so you shouldn't see that error moving forward. As for changing images, it's possible that your original image was replaced because it was too small. We ask that authors upload images that are no less than 700 pixels wide (and preferably 1,400 pixels wide).

      If you would prefer not to have your articles edited in the future, we can move them back to HubPages.


      1. robhampton profile image93
        robhamptonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you Haley for your reply. It makes a lot of sense and helps me understand better about why edits are important.

    4. OldRoses profile image95
      OldRosesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I've had the same problems with photos and terminology.  When an editor changes a photo incorrectly or "corrects" a term, I revert the the edit and email the editor to let them know that I have made the change and why.  As you pointed out, they don't have the same expertise that we have.  It's up to us to educate them as well as our readers.

    5. letstalkabouteduc profile image94
      letstalkabouteducposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      This gives me the perfect opportunity to express my gratitude to the editors. They've done a marvelous job with my articles and their work is top-notch. I've read all their biographies and know how qualified (and over qualified) they are. There's no need to insult these professionals with faux courage behind your keyboard. If you would not make those comments to them face to face, then don't put them in writing on a public forum. Be constructive but kind! Life is better that way! Peace to you!

      1. robhampton profile image93
        robhamptonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        I appreciate your reply and am really happy you've had nothing but positive interactions and good experience with editors on here. I mean that. Unfortunately for me, I can't say the same.  I am not the first person in the history of hp to complain about editors

    6. Kenna McHugh profile image93
      Kenna McHughposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I read through the thread, and it looks like the situation is resolved. My experiences with the editors have been positive. They reply to my emails and let me correct their mistakes. We are human, and sometimes mistakes happen.

  2. EricDockett profile image98
    EricDockettposted 3 years ago

    Why do you think everybody on the site hates you? I've always had a lot of respect for you and what you've done on HP. To have the success you've had with such a small number of articles is amazing. You are an expert and you create articles that help people.  If we had more writers like you and fewer who use this site to goof around HP as a whole would be a lot better off.

    You need to stick up for yourself with the editors. (Politely, of course.) Be an advocate for your content, because nobody else will do it. I would guess you've reached out to them before, but you have to keep at it.

    Editors aren't our enemies and, while some are better than others, they are not incompetent or careless. They just seem to have a ton of work to do, and they are trying to get through it all. Mistakes happen, and they sometimes make poor choices. You are right that they aren't experts in most topics, so in many cases, they won't know they made an error unless you say something.

    I have been furious over the editing in the past and might be again. But every time I communicate with an editor or a member of the HP staff they are pleasant and professional and help me find solutions.  I can't speak for HP of course, but I would have to believe they would want your expertise to shine through in your content.

    1. robhampton profile image93
      robhamptonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Eric, that means a lot. Much appreciated!

  3. Miebakagh57 profile image66
    Miebakagh57posted 3 years ago

    I'm reading through the thread(and I've) just to garner some expertise.


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