Be careful when revising an article

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  1. Pamela99 profile image90
    Pamela99posted 12 months ago

    I rewrote, then deleted an article that I had written 10 years ago. The, I was wrongly accused of plagiarism, when it was my own article that apparently causing the problem.

    It was so frustrating, especially on a holiday weekend. It finally was cleared today. I have been writing here for 12 years and was never accused of plagiarism until now.

    1. Misbah786 profile image87
      Misbah786posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Oh Pamela, So sorry to hear that. It happened to me as well. It is really frustrating. Did you previously publish that article on HP or elsewhere?

      I believe we should delete first, then rewrite and publish it after 8 hours. That, I believe, is why they consider it plagiarism. I'm glad to hear that it's all sorted out now.

      I read your article. It's really interesting, but it's not showing up in my feed. I always appreciate your efforts. Your articles are always very interesting, helpful, and informative. smile
      You are a very valuable member of our beautiful community. smile

      Blessings and Love to you!

      1. Pamela99 profile image90
        Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Sweet Misbah,

        I had posted this article on Hubpages 10 years ago. I did some research, got some new videos, etc. Then, I deleted the old article right before I published the revised article. Live and learn!

        I'm not surprised it is not in your feed as it just got okayed today after I wrote them a complaining email. I have been here 12 years and never had this happen before.

        I am glad you find my article interesting, Misbah.

        Much love and blessings for you always!

    2. NateB11 profile image91
      NateB11posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      It's just not a good idea to delete an article unless you absolutely just want to get rid of it, for two reasons: One of them is because it will remain in the search engine for awhile and if you re-write it like you did, it will come up as duplicate content. Then the other reason not to do it is because it gets rid of its age, and age is a factor in ranking in the search engine. This was an avoidable problem.

      This is not the same as Rupert's case in which someone actually stole his article.

      1. Pamela99 profile image90
        Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        You make some good points,. Thank you.

    3. Matt Wells profile imageSTAFF
      Matt Wellsposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      When you revise an article you should not delete it and create a new one. You should revise the existing article. Here is what happened. A few sites copied your original article from 10 years ago. When you deleted your original article and created a new one instead of revising, the copied version became the oldest copy published on the web. That is why your article was detected as duplicate. If you revise your existing article the original publication date is kept. If you create an entirely new article it creates a new publish date. Please email team@hubpages.com if you would like further assistance.

    4. Abby Slutsky profile image93
      Abby Slutskyposted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Glad it was worked out.

      1. Pamela99 profile image90
        Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Thank you Abby.

    5. Shing Araya profile image84
      Shing Arayaposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Thank you. This is informational to me. I'm sorry to hear though about this experience

  2. Jodah profile image89
    Jodahposted 12 months ago

    Pamela, it is hurtful to be accused of plagiarism especially when you put as much effort into your articles as you do. The lesson here I think is to wait a day or so after deleting before publishing a new updated article so that the previous one has been cleared from records. The alternative is not to delete the previous one but just upgrade it.

    I have been hit with duplication a couple of times for reposting a poem here that I had previously published elsewhere because I hadn’t allowed enough time after deleting it at the other site. I think it is recommended to allow Google three days to clear it from their search engine.
    I am glad you sorted it out with HubPages staff eventually and it is now cleared.

    1. Pamela99 profile image90
      Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Thanks John. I agree that I need to wait more time if I want to update an article. If I have relevant new information I want to update and then post it so people will know. I learned a lesson anyway!

      1. bravewarrior profile image91
        bravewarriorposted 12 months agoin reply to this

        Pamela, I would suggest you revise but don't delete. When you revise, the original copyright date remains, so there's no question that the article is yours. We're encouraged to update our articles from time to time so they rank with the SERPS and bring more/new traffic. I would not delete anything unless you really do want it gone.

        Updating is the way to go.

        Sorry to hear you were accused of plagiarism. The good news is the original version was recognized by Google. All the more reason to update/edit rather than delete and re-create.

    2. Miebakagh57 profile image70
      Miebakagh57posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Jodah is correct. It's much better to update the old article on a word document. One can then copy and paste this into a new capsule as a new paragraphe, or within the text, with new pictures and video. Then hit the publish now button, and viola, you're done.                                    Apparently, a warning will appear when an article is being delete. It's a 24 hour waiting period that the page will be cleared onlne. Some have known to ignore it and go ahead. And the result of re-publishing within this 24-hour period can be plagiarism or duplicate content.

      1. Pamela99 profile image90
        Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        It is a good idea. Thank you.

        1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
          Miebakagh57posted 12 months agoin reply to this

          Pamela99, you're welcome.

  3. john000 profile image94
    john000posted 12 months ago

    So sorry, Pamela, about the accusation. We live in a time of increasing speed. It would be nice if some things had governors, like accusations of plagiarism. Oh, well, be back to the writing board.

    1. Pamela99 profile image90
      Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you. We do live in a time where things occur with increasing speed So, I leaned a lesson!

  4. Brenda Arledge profile image81
    Brenda Arledgeposted 12 months ago

    Pamela
    Oh wow! 
    I guess deleting it caused the problem, but they certainly should know you better than that after all this time.
    I'm glad it got cleared up.

    1. Pamela99 profile image90
      Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you Brenda. I guess I need to update and not delete.

  5. Charles Emerenwa profile image82
    Charles Emerenwaposted 12 months ago

    So sorry to hear what had happened, Ms Pamela. Thankfully the issue has been cleared and your good name restored. Appreciate you sharing your experience as a testimony of what not to do or how it could have been done better. Will heed the advise moving forward when I plan to update some of my old hubs.

    1. Pamela99 profile image90
      Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      We learn so much from each other, and from our mistakes. Thank you for commenting, Charles.

  6. bhattuc profile image82
    bhattucposted 12 months ago

    Does it mean that we should not delete it and simply edit and update it online.

    1. Miebakagh57 profile image70
      Miebakagh57posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Most assurdly yes. Just update it online and hit publish now button.                                                It's much better if you update on a word document. Then copy and paste on hubpages.

      1. Pamela99 profile image90
        Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

        I appreciate your input, Miebakagh. I think you are right. Thank you.

    2. Pamela99 profile image90
      Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Some people think that is exactly what we should. If we do want to delete it I think it is important to wait a couple of days before posting it again after updating or rewriting the article.

  7. MariaMontgomery profile image92
    MariaMontgomeryposted 12 months ago

    That happened to me, too, when I was moving some old blog posts to HP. The HP Edit Team told me to delete the old one at least 24 hours before publishing the new one -- also said 48 hours is better. I have re-done a couple of HP articles, too. My reason was to get a better URL. The old ones were too long, and misleading, as the content had changed drastically for the better. Glad you got it straightened out.

    1. Pamela99 profile image90
      Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you Maria, that sounds like a good timeframe. Articles that I wrote 10 or 12 years ago need updating sometimes.

  8. Carola Finch profile image94
    Carola Finchposted 12 months ago

    You also have the option of asking Google (or other browsers, I imagine) to remove the link you want to take down.  I had to do this with a business website that I shut down.  It was up for months otherwise. Here is the link:
    https://developers.google.com/search/do … 2&rd=1

    1. Pamela99 profile image90
      Pamela99posted 12 months agoin reply to this

      Thank you Carola. I appreciate the link as I didn't know you could do that.

  9. Pamela99 profile image90
    Pamela99posted 12 months ago

    I didn't know about the date being kept. The old articles can be updated, but they are never featured in any way, which is another reason I was posting a new article. I appreciate the information you provided.

  10. Miebakagh57 profile image70
    Miebakagh57posted 7 weeks ago

    Glad the issue is over.

 
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