It was published 12 years ago and has had seven edits by editors over the years. Possibly it has been moved because of low traffic or not enough content. Some reasons suggested were:
long walls of text
non-evergreen content
photos that are too small (<700px wide)
photos without captions
However none of these apply. I've asked for clarification from the team.
These forum emails mean nothing. They are a waste of time and effort. AI is seeping into HP's thought processes!
I received an e-mail from HubPages that one of my articles was running the risk of being moved back from a niche site (SoapBoxie) to Discover HubPages unless I made some updates in the article. I did so accordingly, and they went ahead and allowed for my article to remain undisturbed. Unfortunately, I do not always get a warning to that effect ahead of time. Usually they just move an article from a niche site back to Discover HubPages without warning. What am I to do? They call the shots.
I've had several articles moved back to Discover recently. What's ironic is my views are way up (I know some of them are editors doing their thing), but my earnings for this month have doubled from what I typically receive. So, I'm not complaining. Perhaps the move to an arena that isn't littered with ads is proving to be beneficial. According to my GA report as of this morning, users are up 66.6%, sessions are up 64.3%, bounce rate a mere 2.2%, and session duration is up 32.5%.
As I said, I'm not complaining. The proof is in the pudding!
Bizarre but logical. Fewer ads = more satisfied readers. Keep us updated on this please...you never know.... TAG might be interested in this radical idea, moving away from niche sites ...for additional profits!!!
Less is more with ads for sure. Out of curiosity, do you have stats on what your bounce rate used to be when it was on the niche site?
I'm not looking at specific articles, but the overall changes. Ninety days ago my bounce rate was up 25.8%. As of today (5/28/23) it's only up by 1.6%. Views are still way up both as reported by GA and My Article Statistics. Earnings for May have more than doubled over April's stats. Over the last month I've had 1 article moved from TurboFuture back to Discover, 1 from Spinditty, and 1 from DenGarden.
The same has happened to me as well. I just had notification about one of my higher rated hubs (10 years old) being moved from Dengarden back to Discover. Exactly the same message/reasons given to you. It looks like Dengarden is being overhauled.
So an editor has got back to me and the reason it was moved back was because it was not getting any traffic, well just a couple of views per month. I wonder what the threshold number of views is per month? I think I'll move it to my publication on Medium, it might earn more there.
I thought about signing up for Medium. However, my question is whether I would have to pay anything to publish on Medium, because I'm looking for an arrangement where I make money without having to expend a lot of money.
Don't people have to pay to view "premium" content on Medium?
I vaguely recall someone telling me that Medium is not a completely free writing platform for writers and content creators, but I don't know exactly what they charge money for. I guess I could go to that site and read their guidelines and so forth.
Hey there, how is everyone doing
I guess if an article was only getting a couple views a month removing it from Dengarden would be a good thing to do IF it was low quality OR if there is a similar article getting slightly more views there.
Good to know you're still around!
You could say we're struggling on despite the setbacks and confusion and controversies over ad placements and low status of the niche sites since TAG took over. Prognosis? Anyone's guess. At the moment we're heading downwards rapidly but will probably level out before hitting rock bottom. The editors have been really busy updating niche sites, and a new video has been introduced but to me this is mere window dressing.
How's it going for you?
Yup still around. Just finished writing my thesis, so got some time on my hands again. My traffic seems quite stable, low but stable haha. Nothing like what it was two years ago when I was more active.
I think the threshold is around 12 views a month. Doesn't make much sense though. I've had articles "perform badly" and then someone posts it on a Facebook group or MSN likes it and suddenly you are into hundreds of views a day. The popularity doesn't last long but you never know which article it's going to hit.
They say:
"It is incredibly important to the health of our Network Sites that all articles are high quality and receive organic search traffic".
I can understand how total traffic would be important as regards attracting advertisers, but I don't understand how lack of traffic to individual articles would be a problem.
If an article is moved to Discover, the network site it was moved from then gets potentially less views. So am I missing something here? Does Google keep a tally of webpages on a site with no interaction and use it as a ranking factor for the whole site?
Good question. I am sure they have bullet points for the editors. I'd love to see them.
by Thomas Swan 15 months ago
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by Eric Dockett 3 months ago
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by Eugene Brennan 14 months ago
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by Shauna L Bowling 11 days ago
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by Eric Dockett 2 years ago
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by Cholee Clay 6 years ago
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