The Arena Group has posted a paid freelance position on LinkedIn

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   bravewarriorposted 6 days ago

   They're advertising for pet writers. Pay is between $22-$25/hour. Here's the link:
   
   https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/4132 … Q5NTgsMSwx

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      Kenna McHughposted 6 days agoin reply to this

      TAG has posted several job opportunities for writers on Indeed. Some programs keep track of the hours you log into the system, and it appears this technology has been around for some time.

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         bravewarriorposted 5 days agoin reply to this

         You're absolutely right, Kenna.

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            Kenna McHughposted 5 days agoin reply to this

            

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   eugbugposted 6 days ago

   Since it's a remote position, how do they know how many hours you're working? I mean Apollonius the Budgie could be trained to move the mouse and peck the keyboard.

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      bravewarriorposted 6 days agoin reply to this

      That's a great question, Eugene. It would be better to pay by the piece or by the word, in my opinion. And since it is a remote position, why are they wanting the writers to obligate themselves to an eight hour day five days a week??

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   psycheskinnerposted 6 days ago

   I think hourly in this case means "you have to make it happen within this time".

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      bravewarriorposted 6 days agoin reply to this

      I didn't read it that way at all. In order to be paid hourly, you have to track, log, and report your time spent. The Arena Group is saying you have to work eight hours a day, five days a week, and provide five to six 400-500 word articles each day. So the question remains: how do they verify hours spent working?

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         eugbugposted 6 days agoin reply to this

         I presume they have some sort of tracking software that a contractor logs into and measures activity and productivity. So maybe it counts words typed in a given period and if you slack off, you get penalised. Productivity has never been one of my good point in jobs.

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         psycheskinnerposted 39 hours agoin reply to this

         Presumably, you report your hours, just like I do as a work-from-home employee.

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   Miebakagh57posted 4 days ago

   TAG is very odd with hubpages. But this 'hourly' thing is madness.

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      greenmindposted 2 days agoin reply to this

      Not madness at all – it's a way to get paid for writing. I can see the wisdom in knowing you'll get paid for a piece, versus not knowing if an article you just spent hours on will ever get any views.

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         bravewarriorposted 2 days agoin reply to this

         Yes, this is true. However, the requirements and duties are quite specific. For instance, they want you to write up to six 400-500 word posts per day (that are assigned to you if you don't pitch) and you're required to write eight hours a day, five days a week. That said, what mechanism do they use to track your time? And why post a freelance job if you're expected to put in a forty-hour week? To me, that is not freelance. If you're expected to put in full-time hours, you should also be entitled to benefits as a full-time employee. But that won't happen because freelancers are considered subcontractors, not employees.

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            eugbugposted 2 days agoin reply to this

            That reminds me of when we were at school and on Fridays were assigned an English essay to be handed in for Monday Then the French teacher added another one, and if we were unlucky, we had to do an Irish one too. Don't think I'd be able for that productivity now. Maybe it's just old age setting in.

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               Kenna McHughposted 2 days agoin reply to this

               Well, Eugene, you'll get an "F" in school and no pay in the working field.

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                  eugbugposted 2 days agoin reply to this

                  I actually got an NG in English in a matriculation exam for university
                  I think everyone has those nightmares too about being way behind on their revision and having to do their final exams.

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                     Kenna McHughposted 2 days agoin reply to this

                     Yes, or sleepless nights.

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               bravewarriorposted 2 days agoin reply to this

               I agree with you, Eugene. I retired from 40-hour per week employment at the end of 2023. If I wanted to obligate myself to that kind of regiment again, I'd go back to work for a company that provides benefits and a guaranteed paycheck at the end of each week.
               
               TAG is missing the mark, IMO.

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            Kenna McHughposted 2 days agoin reply to this

            I hear you, Shauna. I know of IT, writers, film industry professionals, and others contracted to work full-time. It's a common practice. Some CPMs monitor hours.

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               bravewarriorposted 2 days agoin reply to this

               Yes, Kenna, I'm aware of CPMs that monitor hours. My problem with their posting - they have have a couple others on LI with the same obligatory parameters - is that the time constraints do not lend themselves to "freelance" writing. Plus, the hourly range is DOE. Granted, you have to pass their writing test, but I still think their post is misleading. Then again, they're trying to weed out the wanna-be's, which is understandable, but the stringent forty-hours per week and minimum six 400-500 posts per day is a turnoff, in my opinion. Between researching, writing, editing, adding photos, citing sources, that's a big barrel of pickles to put into an eight-hour basket. You still don't know how much you'll make or if your work will be accepted. They also don't mention how often or how they pay.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 days agoin reply to this

         I agree. I suspect that TAG will request the article and say, "We expect you to complete it in three hours." Like in the past, it's best to share revenue in the long run.

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         Miebakagh57posted 44 hours agoin reply to this

         So which is better? Writing a 500 word piece or a !,500 word article? Is TAG on innovative move?

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            greenmindposted 40 hours agoin reply to this

            It depends on the individual. Would you rather know you're going to get paid for writing something assigned to you, or hope you'll get paid for writing something of your choosing? I have done both, and they both have their upsides.

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               Miebakagh57posted 39 hours agoin reply to this

               Good point. They's something like that here at hubpages before TAG's take over.                                   It's a specific and special assignment...Oh, what is it called back then? Why is it not being done again?

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   Kenna McHughposted 2 days ago

   Yes, Shauna, which is typical of TAG being evasive.

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      bravewarriorposted 2 days agoin reply to this

      Exactly my point, Kenna! They think they're throwing anyone who's on LinkedIn (and associated with HubPages) a bone. If I were that hungry, I'd still be working in construction accounting where the bones have plenty of meat on them!

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 days agoin reply to this

         

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   Kenna McHughposted 39 hours ago

   Yes. I have done both. They both have their benefits.

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