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   PapasWorldposted 15 years ago

   Looking through some of the older blog posts regarding stats, I was wondering what your thoughts were on why there is a large percentage of users who haven't published a hub? 
   
   The last post I saw, and I could be mistaken here, there were something like 750k users but only 97k who had published at least one.  Of course, this was from Sept '09 so will have changed since then but still ...

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   Phoenix Rebornposted 15 years ago

   I would say that some accounts are accounts where the owner is banned from publishing and/or banned from posting in the forums.  Recently, for example, the wsp2469 account was banned.  When fans and friends of wsp2469 tried to open accounts to publish his unpublished material and/or publish tribute material they were banned and closed and yet they stay listed even though those folks are no longer active under those names.  So there you have part of the reason for those stats. 
   You are talking about one account getting banned and spawning other accounts that also get banned and therefore spawn even more accounts.  Come to think of it, being so quick to ban accounts might be good for HP stats.  It makes it seem like they have even more members if one or two writers in one account have to open another account when the first one gets banned and/or they inspire others to also open accounts.  Wow.  Never thought about it like that.

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      PapasWorldposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for your comments Phoenix.  Yes, that would explain some of the stats, certainly.
      
      I think the point I was (poorly) trying to make was that there are apparently 650k registered users who have yet to make an active contribution (i.e. publish a hub) and I was wondering the reason.  I myself have only been a member barely a week and as yet, have not published a hub, nor am I likely to in the near future, despite having material *to* publish.  Or, my first hub could be why I don't want to publish a hub! :-)
      
      I also saw in another forum post on here where someone wanted to delete their account and an established user made the comment 'another flees Hubpages'.  Do we know how many have deleted their accounts and possibly the reasons why?

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         Phoenix Rebornposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         When your account is banned your hubs are taken off the air but it still looks like you have an active profile.  Wsp2469 was banned and his hubs are now off the air yet according to the stats on his profile he has no hubs.
         The truth is he has no "on air" hubs.  Addition ally, some people might get tired of the censorship and other nonsense and just leave after deleting their hubs.  Their profile might still remain.  Finally, sometimes people get banned from the forums so they create a "puppet" account with which they use to speak their minds in the forums.
         People leave for various reasons, one being you don't get rich here, another being censorship and another being they just don't have the time to spend here if they are not making money.

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   Susana Sposted 15 years ago

   Hi papasworld I don't think it's so much about accounts being banned - they seem few and far between. I think a lot of people sign up to leave comments on hubs (I've seen this on my hubs) and never wish or want to hub.
   
   As with any site people will come and go. The forums are not a good place to really get a real feel for hubpages since a much higher percentage of hubbers don't participate in them, or only pop in now and again.
   
   Would be good to read a hub from you!

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      PapasWorldposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Susana.  That makes a lot of sense, it just seems awfully high but then I don't have anything to compare it to.  I'm a member on Helium and was looking for other sites to diversify.  I'm still not convinced about HP though ... it all seems a little ... well, intimidating I guess is the right word.  I think I was trying to gauge if how I felt about it was the same as other users who were trying to make that first post.  The social side seems similar to Ciao (another site I *used* to be a member on) and that is really offputting to me.
      
      As for putting on my own hub, I got scared off by all the 'help' pages!

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   thisisoliposted 15 years ago

   Hehe less competition for me I guess

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   Susana Sposted 15 years ago

   Well Papa - it's really easy to get started especially if you already have adsense and amazon affiliate accounts. If you need any help with anything feel free to email me - it's really not a scary place and creating hubs becomes very easy once you've made one or two.
   
   I've met some great people here and many are very willing to share info that you'd normally pay through the nose for. It's just like any other community, there are people you click with and those you don't, but in general I'd say it's the friendliest place I've been on online and the easiest article writing site to make money on.
   
   I think many people also come here thinking they can make lots of money without much work. Once they realise they do have to work at it they give up and go on looking for the next get rich quick scheme.

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      PapasWorldposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Susana, that's really encouraging.  As for earning money, like I say, I'm also on Helium so I don't expect to earn much! :-)  I must admit, I did have visions of being able to post my Helium stuff onto here but by the looks of things, that would be a bad idea.
      
      I was also on Ciao, for quite a while too, but the roaming click-squads and stat police put me off and I was kinda afraid of the same thing here ...
      
      I already have Adsense but the Amazon affiliation is a good idea. 
      
      Thanks for your help, much appreciated.  I may pluck up the courage one day to post something, and so move from the 650,000 into the 100,000! :-)

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   JYOTI KOTHARIposted 15 years ago

   There is an affiliate program to invite others to hubpages. Many hubbers use this. Large numbers of people sign up to hubpages invited by a hubber.
   
   They may or may not be interested or even capable of writing a hub. So they remain inactive or even forget after signing up.
   
   Though I don't have any statistics I assume that number of inactive accounts are much more than banned accounts.
   
   Thanks,
   Jyoti Kothari

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