I should point out immediately that I have never been one to worry about this, or get paranoid about this, in fact most of my hubs are doing just splendid. I am also only concerned about the amount of search engine traffic I get, and my hubscores do not always reflect the great SERP achievements of my popular hubs...
However...... I have noticed that there does seem to be a few people who are very unhappy with the potential abuse of this feature, to be more specific they are convinced that there are other hubbers who are rating them down regularly.... (and I'm sure that on occassion those worries are well founded, I was once a victim of a 'click attack' on here)...
There could well be a simple solution to this however.... and that is for the up and down system to log each IP - much the same way as the polls. You can only vote once in each poll on a hub, perhaps you should only be allowed to rate 'up' or 'down' once for each hub?
Maybe it is already like this, but I am pretty certain it is not. This would ensure that one individual is unable to have an extremely negative - or indeed positive - effect on a hubscore.
One IP, one chance to give your opinion on a hub. If 2 people visit a hub, and one presses 'UP' one time, and the other presses 'DOWN' five times, equal weight should be given to each.
If your attacker subsequently decides to visit numerous of your pages, to rate 'DOWN' once on each, at least you are getting a traffic increase to help counter any decline in scores....
Possibly a simply solution to a simple problem? I would prefer this to any radical overhaul of the system, I certainly don't wish to know the IP address of each of my raters - they can continue to love me or hate me anonymously....
A few opinions would be great...
I think HP responded to this in issue in another forum thread. The rate up\down system is regulated though I do not know how. HP can tell if the system is being abused and the overall effect on the hub because of being rated up or down is very minimal.
I am with Ryan, its search engine results that count. But it might be an idea to only allow those who are prepared to take the time to comment the right to rate a hub up or down. And you could also add the ability to vote up or down comments so those who add helpful and useful comments are rewarded in some way. (they probably are but this could be a nice little bonus)
Having insomnia Ryan?
Oh, btw, I normally change IP at least twice a day
Ryan,Im pretty sure this is pretty much how the rating system works - hubstaff did take the time to explain how little of an effect rating up/down has and some sort of safeguard that only allows each user account or ip to actually register a vote per hub.
I think it was in a thread responding to cosette?
If it has such a little effect on a hub score, why not just do away with it altogether? Why is it even needed?
We the writers do not see the results and since it is such a topic of discussion in the negative sense...I would rather not have it on my hubs.
because people like to click things - ever play the video crack at the bar..uhh poker games
lol, I know which games you speak of, but...No! I never play those.
As I understand it, hubpages can spot abuse of the system, and it does not carry much weight in the over-all algorithms anyway.
Many sites, hubs, blogs, webpages or social bookmarkers allow a thumbs up but no thumbs down. I feel confident that hubpages is on top of this one or they would remove the thumbs down.
Sounds like a great idea that possibly HubPages already took care of
Like Ohma and sunforged already said, that's how it works. I believe it even says somewhere that the up and down buttons are monitored per unique click.
Nevertheless, I think the rating thing could be abolished since it has hardly any effect on Hub Scores, and we never get to know about these ratings on our Hubs anyway. What's the point of it?
I'm pretty sure I rate a lot of Hubs up at least twice -- I tend to forget whether I did or didn't, so I go back and do it just to be sure. Ryan's idea would be good to prevent that, too.
But, as I say, what's the point of it all anyway?
And if a Hub is so bad it needs rating down, surely it should be flagged.
I'm new here (second day) but I've noticed that shortly after I post a new hub, it goes down to 49. It's almost like somebody here just doesn't like me :-)
I see no point in worrying about it. If there is some jerk following you around, the rest of your visitors are ether going to offset that person or not. If they don't, your post probably wasn't worth much anyway.
It's hard to imagine someone with so little else to do that they'd actually actually do that, isn't it?
This doesn't necessarily mean someone is rating your hub down. There are other factors involved not controlled by members rating your hubs.
Mine do that, too. 49 or 50 to start is normal, as far as I can tell.
Ryan the ONE person that has consistently come to the forum complaining of abuse was told flat out by Paul Deeds once that the hub she was complaining about had never had one down rating.
So I don't really think that this is an issue that HP staff needs to spend a great deal of time on.
by cosette 9 years ago
Dear HubTeam:I know there have been a few forum threads about this topic, but hear me out please. By the way, this thread refers to the rating down of hubs, not flagging. I have no problem with the flagging feature and see it as a necessary evil. Even if someone misuses it, they have to go through...
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