Backlinking and SE rank

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   minatokuposted 14 years ago

   Hello everyone
   
   I've been backlinking some hubs on another account like crazy for over a month. I estimate that a couple of my hubs have at least 30 quality backlinks in place, but my page rank and traffic seem to be largely unchanged. Is it simply a matter of time? Do I just need to let my hubs age more and eventually they'll start moving up the search results?

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      Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It's hard to say since we do not know how good your other hubs are.  But if they are anything like the ones here then I don't know what to say.  Staplers are really not something I would search the web for because they are so readily available.
      
      
      Perhaps someone else will come along and help you out with this!

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   lrohnerposted 14 years ago

   Hubs are like wine and cheese. Most of them tend to get better with age. That said, the quality of the backlinks also counts. My first question would be--how many of the 30 backlinks are DoFollow?
   
   How you rank is also dependent on the amount and quality of the competition for the keywords you are going after and the quality of the hubs.

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   Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

   One thing to consider is the number of links your competitors have. If you have 30 and the top ranked pages have 300 then you still have a long way to go. Its not just about the number though, the authority of the site linking to you, the age of the link and the anchor text used to form the link all come into play. You also want to get links from a diverse range of IP's, lots of links from one website is not that useful.

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   minatokuposted 14 years ago

   The stapler hubs are just something I whipped up. I'm moving on to some other topics. I was just curious.
   
   I didn't know that the age of the backlinks also matters. It seems like I just have to be patient and keep on publishing and gradually adding backlinks.
   
   I have been putting up links all over the place, and I have made sure that the sites I add them too are PR 9 and up. So 30 dofollow, and probably several that aren't.

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      thisisoliposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I would like to see how you are getting these links.
      
      PR9 domains are rare enough, but getting on a PR9 page is next to impossible.

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   DC Researchposted 14 years ago

   wow PR 9 websites? like what?

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   Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

   There is no such thing as a PR 9 website, PR is calculated on a page by page basis i.e. web pages have PageRank not websites.
   
   It’s the PageRank of the page that you are getting the link from that you should be concerned with and whether that PageRank is real or falsified. The reason I am mentioning falsified PR is because the language you are using sounds like you might be buying links and have been duped into thinking that a link from a site that shows PR9 on the home page is a PR 9 site.
   
   What is the PR of the pages you are getting the links from?
   
   If you are buying links, and many of us do in one shape or form, you need to check that the page and the cached version of the page that is linking to you the same. If they are different pages from different domains PR is probably being falsified in order to raise the price of the link.

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   minatokuposted 14 years ago

   actually it's me that made the mistake. I admit I am no expert. But I went back and checked the links and no page nine ones existed. Not sure where I got that number. But thank you for letting me know that pr 9 is a bogus. Good to know for future reference.
   
   Where are you buying your backlinks/what sites do you use? My backlinks are all manually submitted I don't use any software or a payed service that auto-submits. I heard this can be sketchy and possibly even hurt your backlinking efforts.

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   TerryGlposted 14 years ago

   Another thing to consider is to drop any notion of getting high page rank backlinks through profile links. Google has woken up to that farce and are deindexing sites using this technique as quick as they find them.
   
   It does not take a brain surgeon to figure out bobxxccpp at yahoo dot com is a bogus email address spread all over forums, rss feeds, pingler and web 2.0 sites.
   
   As to page rank there is talk of a Google update in September but really this should be the least of your concerns.
   
   The idea is to get traffic through the search engines and half the battle is writing on a keyword that has a chance of reaching the top.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Where did you get this information please?
      
      Thanks

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         TerryGlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         "Complete Deindexing
         
             *      Cloaking and misguiding Google bots
             *      Genuine Error
         
         Google hates Black Hat SEO techniques. Reason,it makes their search algorithm worthless. So it does not hesitate banning sites that uses techniques to manipulate and misguide its crawlers".
         
         The greater membership forums are a buzz at the moment believing profile linking software is the reason and one comment as to the above was made. Everyone is ducking for cover at the moment, just in case it is true.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            So - it is not actually true then? Pretty sure you are hoping it is not as well - seeing as you like Brute Force.

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               TerryGlposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               You hit the nail right on the head there. I have actually moved on from Peter's software to something else at the moment. Not true in the sense that everyone is coming out and categorically stating it as a fact, but where there is smoke there is fire.

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   mcbeanposted 14 years ago

   You often see people arguing over the relative merits of backlinks vs content.
   The bottom line is they are one and the same.
   You can write crap content and create your own backlinks and you will get nowhere.
   Write quality content and create no backlinks and your page does well. Why? Because other recognize the value of your writing and do your work for you, backlinking for you, slowly and steadily increasing your SERP ranking.
   Of course writing great content and adding a few backlinks yourself doesn't hurt either

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    Peter Hogganposted 14 years ago

    PR 9 pages do exist, they are not all that commen but they are out there. As for paying for a little link love read Misha's hub
    
    http://hubpages.com/hub/Backlink-Tool-O … or-Writers

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    Research Analystposted 14 years ago

    It takes time, you can start to backlink but it would be better to write quality content and then comment on relevant websites that fit your topic, become a resource for readers on the web and over time you will start to see traffic and users will start to link to your content.
    
    First I would suggest that you research a topic and find out if there is a demand for it, provide information on a subject or do a review on products that you know people are searching for.
    
    Not all content is created equal and how sites rank in the search engine is always changing, so its best to concentrate on writing good content and allow the backlinking process to evolve.
    
    Plus if you read some of the top hubbers who have documented their journeys on how to use backlinking tools and keyword research through various hubs you can learn tips from them, its best to learn from other peoples mistakes than to take the hard road of trying to learn from your own.
    
    Happy hubbing!

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    minatokuposted 14 years ago

    Thanks everybody. I think I'm going to change tactics and focus more on content, less on backlinking.

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    sunforgedposted 14 years ago

    PR 9 and up?

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