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I've read through the faq and some of the forums, but I haven't find the question to my problem. My personal score is constantly decresing since I've joined. I thought at first it is because my hubs are possibly not that good, therefore I've tried to revise them, but I didn't find any probs. Then all the published hubs' score started to grow, and they continue this trend, but my personal score is still falling, more than 5 points a day (at least). What am I doing wrong?
Please help me!
Thanks in advance,
You have a 94. What's so bad about that? Gee'z.
Here ya go directly from the HubPages FAQ...Hope it helps a bit...
HOW IS HUBSCORES COMPUTED
"HubScore takes into account many factors and will change over time as data about its performance continues to stream in. It will also fluctuate quite a bit, seemingly at random, and that is nothing to worry about. The most important HubScore components that you should be concerned with include:
Amount of traffic - including percentage from reputable sources other than HubPages
The reputation of the Hubber - your Hubber Score and contribution to the community
The response of readers to your hub - including comments, thumbs up, etc.
The uniqueness of content - copying content already available on the web will be penalized
We reserve the right to change the factors used to assess a Hub’s HubScore as we continue to determine those that measure a great Hub. The bottom line is if you write original, useful content, your HubScores will reflect the quality and work you've put into them."
I checked your hubtivity, and everything seems normal. Your hubs all score above 50, so that is not the problem either. It is simply too early to tell; who knows what those computers are "thinking." Give it a week or so, it should straighten itself out. If that doesn't help, contact HubPages.
OK, I was thinking about I should contact HubPages, but then I will wait a few days.
Although it is really annoying, because I didn't find any probs with my hubs either...
Thanks for the answer!
Impatience and ambition don't mix very well, but are often accompanying each other. Welcome, good luck!
Maybe I'm a bit impatient, but the reason is that one of my friend also has a profile here and she never experienced a decrease in her hubber score since she had joined. Therefore I got nervous that maybe I'm doing something wrong.
But OK, time will tell, I hope you are right .
I've been here for a long time and my hub score goes up and down without apparent reasons -at least nothing to do with what I do.
Same here (although I do seem to notice that my score often goes up if I do nothing for a couple of days - which would not seem to be all that flattering to me, I'd think. ) In all seriousness, I've always assumed new Hubs go in at a low score and bring the whole business down unless/until they eventually make their way up.
I'm in the same boat - I just joined two days ago and my score is plummeting!
This is my second account on Hubpages though, so I know that this score will turn around eventually. Just don't think about it.
I don't know whats wrong with your Hubscore, you have plenty of Hubtivity, but it keep going down. Wait and it will go up.
I would start off by rewriting your profile. It's a dupe of the one you used on Squidoo, evidently.
Publishing new hubs sometimes lowers score, especially if you are new and publish them in quick succession.
However unless you have duplicate content or over promotional content it will eventually average out.
Remember - hubscores/profile scores are an indication only and most of the pro hubbers ignore them. It won't effect your traffic, if google is sending you any.
The only thing it will effect is making all your links to other sites nofollow to search engine crawlers. You need 75 profile score to enable dofollow.
So unless you are promoting your own external sites, I wouldn't worry.
I am not promoting anything, I just want to make my country more popular if it is possible. I do not have a single link to other sites that are promoting sg, so that is surely not the case.
Maybe I am posting hubs too fast? This can also be the reason? Then it is sad I think, because now I have many freetime to write, and I would also like to achieve the 30 days hub challlenge... :S.
As I said in my post, hubscore actually has no effect on anything except dofollow/nofollow links so most hubbers ignore it.
Hubscore/profile score can change up to 5-10 points at random - it happens to me so much I don't even look at it anymore.
I looked at your hubs and they seem very well put together although maybe you should remove the word "lens" and replace it with "hub".
Are these copied over from squidoo? If so it may take a few days for HP to realize that they're the only ones of their kind.
Otherwise, just ignore it, keep writing and before you know it you'll be sitting in the 70s-80s.
There is nothing to prevent you from contacting HubPages directly. The problem could be related to your IP address or other technical issues.
I said don't worry about it... but this is very weird. I think you should contact the HP team.
Yes, I know, I tried to... but it is really annoying to see that my hubs' score are growing and yet my hubber score is decreasing.
Hubpages hate duplicate anything, as far as I understand. If you write something you have to write it for Hubpages only, you cannot put it somewhere else, then change your mind, delete, then put it somewhere else, etc., even your profile. If you have time just write new original content and Hub folks will love you!
I am facing the same issue
I joined hubpages 4 days back, and have written 3 not-so-bad hubs (or atleast that's what i think). As per the statistics, my score on each hub is nice.. But, the score i see on my profile, it is just 9. It's decreasing 10 points per day consistently. The hubs that i am writing is of my own and i would really want people to read it. I thought it might be because i am new and nobody seems to be following me, but maybe that's no reason.
Sorry to hear that. Maybe it is a technical issue that will sort itself out, wait and see. Meanwhile, you can post links to your hubs in the Extreme Hub Makeover forum if you want to get some feedback on your hubs and your writing.
Sorry swapna, and thanks examiner, I hop this decrease will end soon
Swapna's score has gone up 1 point. Maybe your turn next...
I would try to remove all wikipedia links. Other than that I did not see anything that would affect you in such a dramatic way...
After further investigation I see that at least some of your hubs are copied from Squidoo. This works against your score, too.
There are three posters to this thread that have the same problem. Is there some way we can help them? Could this be systemic?
Nope, only 2 contents are 'copied' from Squidoo (I've deleted my account there), but in fact they are not copied, I've added many things to the hubs - so they are not even duplicate contents - I have no alerts. And I think this should only affect the hubs' score, not my hubber score. That's why I do not understand the whole thing...
Umm, if you don't have any warnings - then it probably is a system glitch. I don;t see anything about your hubs or hubtivity that would bring your score that low. Did somebody from staff replied to your email?
Funny thing though - your score shows 44 on my homepage, at the same time 5 on your profile and on forums. Reinforces the version of glitch.
No, I have no answer yet, although I have written the mail to the team 2 days ago...
Now I think HP is working against me
I hope you are right and it is only a glitch - 44 would be amazing instead of this 5 points .
I don't know what is the problem.
If your Hubs all used to be Squidoo lenses, and they still exist in search engines caches as such, then HubPages would be considering all your content to be duplicated, which is one possible scenario. And yet, you would be seeing flags/warnings if that were really the case.
The other thing that I hope admin looks at is if your IP address somehow has been identified with previous spamming activity, something that can happen if you have a dynamic (changing) and not static address. That seems less likely as folks who run into this issue often don't get as far as publishing 7 Hubs without getting some sort of warning message.
The last thing I can think of is that you've included a nearly identical set of links at the bottom of each Hub, promoting all your other Hubs whether they are on topic or not. You might try getting rid of that and see what happens.
Someone thought of it and even posted above - but she says she does not have dupe warnings, so this must be non-issue here...
Nope, as I said this is not the case, I was a Squidoo user for a week and I've deleted days ago. Only 2 of my hubs that can be found here were on Squidoo as well (others are unique, written only for HP), but there are many new things added to the ones that were on Squidoo . There are no alerts or warnings on my hubs, so no duplicate content either.
I did no spamming activity, therefore I don't think there could be any problems with my IP address either.
I've added the links about my other hubs to the end of each of my hub one and a half days ago, and at that time my hubber score was already decreasing.
So, your tips are good (and thanks for them, really), I thought the same - that one of the upper mentioned cases may cause the problem -, but in fact I've done nothing against the rules.
Now I will wait for the answer of the HP team I think, and if there is no 'medicine' for my problem, I think I will try your lastly mentioned tip (again). I really have no other, better idea...
Thanks for your good tips though!
You don't have to be the spammer for that to be the problem with a dynamic IP address. Just someone else who got temporarily assigned that IP address sometime before you could have been the culprit, but most often, people in those instances have gotten flagged after one or two Hubs, and then admin has cleared it.
It was just something I thought of...
I do find one thing interesting in regards to your situation. I contacted admin about an issue with one of my own Hubs this AM, and received a reply in about 20 minutes, whereas you seem to have been waiting for a reply for a few days. Sadly, low author scores and recent arrival seem to bump you further down the priority list.
The OP contacted them just 28 hours ago. I have seen the team at HubPages saying that they usually try to respond within 2 or 3 business days.
I know, therefore I will wait one (and a half) more day.
Is it OK if after the 3 days are passed I write a mail again? Or just wait more?
I'm confused, I really don't want to disturb them with my letters. But this is annoying.
(I know, I always want to know everything ASAP ).
Just keep this thread going. You already have some of the leading experts (Thisisoli, Relache, Misha) helping you out, and soon you will have 100 followers. You're rolling, actually.
I have found a lot your text currently still cached as being on squidoo, so it could possibly be a duplicate content issue, wait a couple of weeks and it might go away.
In the meantime try writing a completely unique hub, you seem to be pretty adept at creating good looking layouts, so maybe this will help boost your score a little
Don't be too disheartned just yet, Hubscore is not really that important, and if your hubs remain high quality you should see your overall score improve soon!
Other things you could do include answering questions, posting comments on hubs, creating hubs via the answer questions section and so on. Fill these hubs with some brand new unique text and it should work wonders!
Thanks for the tips
I hope you've found text cached on Squidoo only from the hub about Hungary and Budapest, since the others are new ones and I've written them since I've joined HP. This site is much better I think, I can get much more feedback from other writers and users than I did on Squidoo.
It is fantastic to see that others do read my hubs and find the info on them useful. I want to feel this forever .
7 points instead of the 5 yesterday...
Great morning for me
hehe see it is getting better already
Also, are you linking your hubs to each other? this has a slight affect on your Hubscore which migh tbump you up a point or two.
Yes, I've made some linking between my hubs.
But look at my score ... 87... then I think Misha was right and it was only a very annoying glitch with my account .
On the other hand on my profile page my hubber score is still stands at 9 points... but never mind, now I'm really happy .
I don't think it was merely an issue of a glitch with your account, it was a systemic (site-wide) problem. I brought the possibility of a systemic issue (glitch) to Misha's attention (see my post above) because I noticed that several other Hubbers had similar problems. You having contacted HubPages and this thread may have alerted them to the problem, and hopefully other new Hubbers will be better off.
I must say the hubbers score baffles me - I have steadily dropped from 95 to 80 yet in that time increased hubs, followers and traffic. So no idea and I seem to get no answers anywhere.
I've heard that constantly increasing the number of the hubbers you follow and the number of hubs you create can also cause a decrease in your score... maybe this is the problem. When I've joined HP a week ago I've written 3 hubs on one day and my score started do decrease immediately.
Thanks that seems strange actually I have cut back on number of hubs as a result and I do follow a lot of hubbers and vice versa - I figured that is what you should do That doesn't make a lot of sense that would hurt my score. I wonder why? Thanks for replying.
It is true - and HubPages help pages expressly state - that following other Hubbers indiscriminately may hurt the author score. But I believe this is more as a way to discourage those who keep following dozens of new hubbers almost every day in an attempt to gain more followers (i.e. bordering on spammy behavior). If you follow hubbers at a natural pace when it suits you, I do not see this as hurting your score.
Removing very low-ranking hubs (e.g. duplicate content) might help improve author score. Other than that, the drop in author score when publishing new hubs should only be temporary.
I agree with You again (as usual ), those drops are only temporarily I think.
But the 'following dozens' is really a problem - I'm only a week old here, but I've seen many new(er) hubbers who are following much more (top) writers than those do who are here for months/years.
It's nice that we are in agreement. Actual spamming (following by using computer scripts) is prohibited under the HubPages Terms of Service - sooner or later, they will be reported and shut down. The "following dozens" types who are doing this manually are not technically in violation of the rules, only frowned upon.
So basically I have been penalised from following those that follow me or interesting hubbers it seems. Anyone who knows me knows I am about as spammy as you can get.
So what is the answer unfollow a lot of people? This is very off putting actually as I try and upheld all of hubpages quality - good comments and hubs and when I follow I actually only do if I like what they ahve written and send fan mail accordingly.
Let me know what you think I should do going forward. The only other thing I can think of it something like shetoldme or twitter?
Billyaustindillon, I checked out your hubtivity going a few days back. You are highly active, both comments, forum posts, and following others. Sometimes you follow a dozen or so within one hour. You could try to slow down this pattern, take a break from following others, see if it helps - your score may correct itself.
"Be careful though, following people indiscriminately can affect your HubScore"
Thanks WE yes actually what I have done in the past is I read through new people - particuarly writers and if I like them I follow them to see what happens and I usually do that in a set time - I allocate time for that. I had no clue that would be bad - I really do appreciate your time I emailed HubPAges but have not heard back. I won't follow anyone esle for a while - I will right them down f I like them for another day. To be honest I was about to pull the plug on hubpages for a while given the time I put in and I just couldn't work it out.
You are welcome. Sounds good; we'll keep an eye on your score, see how it goes. Surely there must be a solution.
Wow it keeps falling 78 now - like a rock from 95. This is a great way to kill your writers spirit thats for sure
Hang in there Billy, give it some time, see what happens, then decide what you would like to do from there.
Thanks Jase yes will see what happens - though I would be lying if I wasn't concerned. Have fired off a few emails to Hubpages to no response too.
No worries there Billy, I have a feeling looking at the conditions that affect HubScore, this will straighten itself out with time, it just needs (what ever time, kind of how long is a piece of string) to get there.
No doubt - I will pull back and focus elsewhere in the mean time though. Never a big fan of wasting energy and this is what this amounts to if it goes under 75 from what I understand. Surprised I haven't got an email back. Funny thing if I didn't see that 75 Google thing I wouldn't have cared less.
Don't give up, if my problem is solved, then yours will be too .
Just forsget about following in the next 2 or 3 days and your score will go up again.
But I think you mustn't wait for an answer from HubPages, since I haven't got any answer from them for almost a week :S.
I had also checked your hubs, you have none scoring under 50. Absent any issues such as duplicate content, over promotional etc., it is improbable that your score will go below 75, which you correctly observe is the important mark.
Glad you got it sorted zsobig.
Following users indiscriminately can hurt your hubscore, but if you are active ina wide range of areas I am assuming there should br some safeguards for you!
Thanks for the feedback thisisoli you would think there are safeguards but obviously there are not. Lets hope it sorts itself out rather quickly. I have cut way back on my hub writing as a result.
Creating a lot of hubs will not hurt your Hubscore, it will only hurt your Hubscore if they are low quality.
The penalty people were talking about was implemented because people would simply join Hubpages, and then spam follow thousands of people (in the mistaken belief that it would benefit them). Otehr Hubtivity should not have a negative affect!
Thisisoli, I must disagree. As discussed earlier in this thread, spammy following is prohibited under the TOS, and will eventually result in a ban. What is also being penalized as far as author score is "indiscriminately" following others (manually), which may fall well short of spam following thousands of people.
Thanks for your feed back - while I have never followed any one indiscriminately I have followed a lot and vice versa as discussed above. As far as poor hubs I have never been accused of that. Whatever the problem I think it is pretty poor to happen given the effort and quality I have put in. Anyway it is what it is. The score has stabilized at 82 for now and thanks for all the feedback it is much appreciated.
You are correct, the penalty is for indiscriminately following people, however this is more than likely given whenever people simply follow a large number of people.
This penalty was implemented because of the spam followings, I didn't say it needed to be thousands now. I know I had people follow me who i noticed had followed a huge number of people as well.
Other hubtivity such as answering questions, creating hubs and so forth should definitely not have a negative affect.
Well no bounce still 78 and hubs actually higher and did not join other people up others than those that friended me. Official word is that can move and up down 5 or 10 points. Also my traffic is up. Just did one hub this week so far. Spent time on other blogs and will wait to see how this plays out - very disappointing really given the effort put in.
Thanks for keeping us informed. I really hope a solution can be found - maybe with HubPages' help.
To update my score has fallen to 76 this week wrote another hub my hub score average went up - more people fanned me I did not follow anyone. I commented and posted in forums. I emailed Hubpages 3 times. My traffic went up. so as they say WTF
This is dissppointing to me and will be revaluating my time further. Thank you for all those people that PM'd me.
Just looked in on you and really cannot fathom why you should be so low, you have much more 'going for you' than I do.... did you upset anyone in HubHeaven?
Scores...make no sense at all to me...even after as long as I've been here. I have a new account with a few articles that get read on one page. That ranking stays about level...all the time. I have another where the hits take off on a new hub/ and on several hubs...and the score plummets. And what is it with the stats graph. It is kind of fun to look at...but is never close to the amount of hits per day on the account. Then, there is HubKharma...which I think is messing my older account score up...because it has not been the same since this stuff happened.
Am I supposed to go back through older hubs and link up with everything to help the score? Way too much work!
Scores don't matter in regards to the quality of the work...in the grand scheme of things...but I think if you are honest with yourself...as I am being here...no one wants to see their score dropping for no explained reason.
Steve that is exactly it - mine has fallen 20 points mainly unexplainable and I make payout etc so the 75 is important to me. Not good is all I can say. I ahve emailed HubPages staff so hopefully it gets resolved.
You have lots of things going on in your profile, many fans, lots of hubs too, I Hope it will be resolved soon as it is really a point to worry specially if it just continue to drop down
What sucks is I really enjoy the prople and fans and friends on hubpages and have always promoted hubpages and those positives.
Just so you are aware, Hubsocre has very little effect on earnings and traffic.
I am not sure why your score is dropping, but the 75 limit merely cahngess outgoing links to nofollow.
Thanks for that - but does that not affect your Google placement? mY understanding that it is a huge deal - I guess I need to understand it better.
hey billy, boy u r scary....
for i too have had all of your thoughts at some point during my tenure here, however, though all of this info/feedback in helpful, to those, that are focused on such, i've come to the point, where i dont care, what there subjective bias score may fall, when it comes to my efforts for Him(The Lord), for I care about now adays on this silly site, that I may lead others hearts, and mind toward Him, and His Ways, v. their own foolish self serving ways.
u keep on though, for many, like me, can learn much from u .. Keep going!
Jasoncox83, the FAQ you have quoted concerns the scores for individual hubs - not the author score, which is what this thread is about. Many people get confused about this.
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