anyone help find a pic ?

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   china manposted 13 years ago

   I am looking for a self-portrait by probably a late Renaissance painter called something like Illusionist or Magician or . . .which has the artist painting - pointing his brush at the viewer to the right.  It has green background with a boy standing by his side - it is about what we see and don't see the pictures that are created for us (among other things).
   
   I desperately need it for a class where it appears in a video.
   
   Anyone any clues from such crap description ?

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   china manposted 13 years ago

   bump - as it is getting late at night and I am trying to find it before I go to bed

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   Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

   I did a search and can't find anything.

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   Website Examinerposted 13 years ago

   You can take a frame from the video, save that as an image, then use TinEye Reverse Image Search to find the image and similar images throughout the Internet.

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      china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I am sure YOU can - I am such a computer twonk that it would probably be quicker to paint another one myself

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   rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

   I think the artist is Titian.

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      china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Just looked through - it looks like him but can't find it in his stuff   my eyes are falling out from looking at painting pics !  thanks for the help though

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   china manposted 13 years ago

   Ah well - I give in !  and off to bed without it.  thanks for help

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   rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

   ah, look what I found.  this sounds like the painting, but it is by Charles Willson Peale, an American artist. It is from The Staircase Group.
   a painting of his sons, Titian and Raphael. is this it?
   
   
   
   here is the source site
   http://hoocher.com/Charles_Willson_Peal … _Peale.htm

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      china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No unfortunately - it is maybe late Renaissance by one of the biggies of hte period and it shows the artist painting himself - as though he is painting the other side of a mirror, or on glass where we stand this side of it - to his right is a boy, who he is painting on the canvas we cannot see.  Please give in now as I have to go to bed and will feel guilty if you stay up all night
      
      Thanks also WE - I may come back to find out how to capture a video frame another day

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   couturepopcafeposted 13 years ago

   I think there was a Dutch painter who did this but it also involves mirrors where, as you said, it's about what we see and what we don't see.

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      china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think this guy was Dutch - but it did not involve mirrors - it is just that the pose is 'as if' he is painting us.  It is a very simple painting except for the point it is illustrating.

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   rebekahELLEposted 13 years ago

   I have not heard of him, but he was also referred to as The Renaissance Man. on the source site, the description of the painting sounds like what china man is referring to.
   
   Its high degree of detail and finish shows that the painting was clearly intended to be a trompe l'oeil "deception," an effect that Peale never attempted elsewhere. To enhance the illusion, he installed the painting within a doorframe in his studio, with a real step in front. Rembrandt Peale, another son, recalled that his father's friend George Washington, misled by Peale's artifice, tipped his hat and greeted the two young men as he walked by.
   
   hope this helps china man.
   oh, ok, well it was fun searching. I found a new artist.
   go to bed china man.

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