Hello. I am working on a book-a novel- and was wondering if anyone had ever tried posting fiction on hubpages one chapter at a time to get input, develop a readershipt, yada yada? What is the best way to go about this? And is ther any way to protect your work from getting stolen when it's floating out there for the whole world to see before it's copyrighted? Thanx bunches for your input!
It can be easily bar people to copy any content from hub pages if we adopt e-book style software.
fiction on hubpages would be good. I did not find any such hub.
They exist. Check out CJ Stone, for example.
All you have to do to copyright something is to put (c) copyright Yourname YEAR on it.
No problem ...
... it's finding out it has been stolen and enforcing the copyright that's tricky!
That's interesting. Der! Haha. I just wonder if doing fiction on something like this would go over well. My main goal is eventual publication, but if I get a lot of feedback then that would be helpful. Not even to make money. Or...does anyone know of a site that specializes in that sort of thing?
You may find Livejournal to be excellent for this sort of thing. There are a lot of fiction writers there and you can set up your LJ to not be spidered by the search engines and you can lock your posts at different levels -- public, friends only and private.
If your main goal is eventual publication in print, most publishers (there are exceptions) won't be interested in something that has already been published for free online so keeping it locked down is your best option. That way you can still get feedback from a community without having it freely available.
I strongly suggest you do not list your uncopyrighted content on the net if its part of a book. They can easily steal it all, fill in what they need and publish your book as an eBook or a real Hard copy. If I learned anything about writing books is don't let anyone read anything you plan on marketing before it is copyrighted that you can't physically see. An example is a family member or boyfriend\girlfriend or your close friends. Anyone else can easily rip it from you. Remember, if it really is good if someone can read it they can retype it, and they often wouldn't worry about it if it is a great idea. I just want your work to be protected.
Hope this helps,
Jenny is right - you can easily copyright your work, but once it's on the internet, how will you ever know if someone has stolen it? It would take constant vigilance and even then, you can't be sure.
If you want feedback, you'd be much better off to join a writers' critique group, either in the real world or online. Of course, you're not going to earn any money doing that, but then, I doubt you'd earn much on HubPages anyway. Helium.com has a Creative Writing section and articles there earn even less than the pennies earned in the non-fiction sections.
I'm guessing the trouble is that Adsense would set the ads based on the content of the chapter, and that may not be related to the interests of the readers.
There are better places -- more logical places -- to post fiction. Check out Embitca's suggestion.
And if you ever intend to shop your writing as an MS, I'd advise you not first publish it on the net. Not even if you have copyrighted it first.
Here's something important that a lot of writers don't consider: when you have plopped your fiction on a public web site, that is considered as first world-wide publication. It will greatly reduce the attractiveness of the work to some publishers (and the amount of money you can get) should you decide to take it to other media.
That said, I've been known to throw out a thing or two myself...but it's usually stuff I didn't want to hassle myself with trying to peddle to publications.
Your mileage/meterage may vary.
What about the idea of a "poor man's" copy right? Basically what you do is mail yourself the pieces of work, you don't open them when they get back to you after going through the USPS. Then, if it comes up in court, later on, you've dated proof of when you wrote your pieces. (You just don't open them up until you're in front of a judge, I guess?)
--- Nicole Winter
You should read this:
http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/08/ … copyright/
My hubs started out as a way to publicize my recently completed novel, Antiquity Calais: Standing at Armageddon. Since I started out, I've expanded my offerings, but I've got them all listed in this hub: http://hubpages.com/hub/Table-of-Contents . I started out posting the first few chapters, but later I presented one of the chapters as a work in progress. It worked fine for me.
Aw, Uninvited Writer, you burst my bubble! <cry> I've heard of the Poor Man's Copyright theory since I was a little kid, I can't believe it isn't true! Thank-you so much for posting the site, my apologies for the erroneous information, it must be one of those writing urban legends....
--- Nicole Winter
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