An Apolology to all Hubbers

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   JPRussposted 14 years ago

   Hello, I own the websites bwebcentral.com and articleswap.biz. Today both of these sites where shutdown due to copyright violations sent to my webhosting service provider.
   
   The offending page was submitted by a fellow hubber. This is not the first time this has happened. This has caused some confusion in the hub community, and I sincerely aplogize for all of the trouble caused. BWebCentral is committed to removing any copyrighted content if identified.  We do not believe in stealing others content, and any potentially copied content was entirely unintended.
   
   Hubpages has introduced a copyright protection system designed to protect hubbers against copied content. This system has been warning users that content on bwebcentral.com is in violation of DMCA. It also gives friendly links to submit violations. This has not been the first time that a hubpage has filed a DMCA notice. The last time the notice shutdown my google adsense account.
   
   After contacting HubPages about the matter, it has come to my attention, that bwebcentral is incorrectly serving a cache of the content in question. The contents may not be correctly redirect to the content 100% of the time. This was unintentional and we are truly sorry for any inconvenience this has caused.
   
   All links, references, and frames linking to ALL hubpages content have been removed. In addition appropriate robot meta tags have been produced to ensure that cached content is not re-cached by google. However, it may take the google search engine a while to re-read the incorrectly cached pages and remove the data from it's indexes.
   
   I do ask that if you continue to receive notices of possible DMCA notifications, please notify me as soon as possible so that I can remove the offending content immediately, BEFORE submitting your content to google or to my webhosting provider, so that my website. I would hope the shutdown of my website should be a last resort measure, and not the first measure a person takes when problems are found.
   
   References:
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/56239
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/57144
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/57137
   bwebcentral.com/privacy

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      lrohnerposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I totally disagree. Taking down sites that make money off of stolen content should be top of mind with everyone. I don't believe that plagiarism is "accidental," and I do believe that if you do it once, you'll do it again. Sorry to be so harsh, but this whole plagiarism thing is just completely out of control.

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   prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago

   http://hubpages.com/hub/Feeling-at-Ease … nant-Women
   
   I still have that one copied in your site according to HP.

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      JPRussposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      @prettydarkhorse
      
      I have verified that the hub mentioned above no longer exists on bwebcentral (it was removed with the other ones yesterday).
      
      I am uncertain how long it will take for these items to disappear on hubpages (actually I'm not sure if they will or if they will just stay there)
      
      If you follow the link to the copied content, you will notice it now redirects to a 404 page indicating that the content has been removed

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         prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         ok

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   rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago

   this was the site with iframes of our hubs? my question is how did our hubs get there?

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      JPRussposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The most likely scenario is that one or more users submitted your content to aritlceswap.biz, presumably using the articleswap.biz bookmarklet.
      
      BWebcentral then visits the pages and creates a local cache and a redirect script that redirects the page inside the frameset.
      
      The bookmarklet is similar to what you might see with Digg or Stubmleupon. The critical difference is that the pages are crawled and a cache is created (similar to what google does). I got the idea to use frames based on an old bookmarking system called "Propeller" that was owed by Netscape"
      
      It is the combination of these 2 separate ideas "social bookmarking" + "caching". That has created the problem. I had thought combining these two ideas would help boost popularity of a users content. Although this does work effectively, it has a bad side-effect of the creating the appearance of stolen content.

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   Nelle Hoxieposted 14 years ago

   If you can't run a clean site, then get into another line of business.

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   Hovalisposted 14 years ago

   When an article is stolen I believe the injured party has every right to take what action they believe is necessary to protect their hard work. It is up to you to ensure that your site is kosher. The fact that there have been repeated violations says a lot. It's up to you to remove any cache content, or to set your site up not to be cached at any web archive sites.
   
   The fact that hubbers seem to be taking more extreme action to stop this practise says a lot. If you've been caught in the middle of it then that is your problem to solve. It's up to Hubbers to take what action they deem appropriate, and if that means taking down the offending sites then so be it.

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   shazwellynposted 14 years ago

   There was a couple of mine you have had for a long time, how can this be accidental?  I let Hubpages know and they said that there didnt seem to be a violation because they were framed and people could still have access to my content - *confused* .  I didnt take it any further.  I must give credit to Edweirdo's hub defender in spotting these articles.
   
   The latest stolen content was this one taken on 13th December:  http://kindsofcancer-blog.blogspot.com/ … racle.html
   
   This was my hub:
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Vitamin-D-Mirac … wel-Cancer
   
   I've filed but nothing has been done as yet

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      PaulaHenry1posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      wow- that is proof enough, exact duplicate. I cant believe people have the gall to do such.

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      JPRussposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hi shazwellyn,
      
      The blatant copying noted in your articles cannot be considered an accident. It is a clear violation. It seems quite obvious the person who copied this content knew what he/she was doing.
      
      Anytime someone copies and pastes a direct copy, clearly this is wrong.
      
      This copying is unrelated to the bwebcentral website however though I can clearly understand your concern. I would not like it either if someone did this to my content.
      
      What bwebcentral was doing was putting your content in an HTML frameset. Frames are not copies of content, but are links to your actual content, advertising and all.  The frameset provides no income for bwebcentral.com.
      
      It is not the frame that confuses hubpages however. The hubpages checker reads the content of the cached version of the page (similar to how google caches pages). Which then appears as a duplicate to hubpages.
      
      The "Accident" is that it was unintentional for other crawlers to crawl the cached pages.  However, I have known about the problem for a while but failed to respect the full impact that it created for hubbers, and other content creators in general.

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         shazwellynposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Actually the example I made was to demonstrate a clear difference.
         
         I cant understand why people are annoyed with what you have done.  As I said, when I contacted HubPages about your frames, they were intrigued but said that it wasnt stolen content.
         
         The second example, is definately stolen!  This is not you, I may add!

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   Dolores Monetposted 14 years ago

   JP - accidents happen. I think that it was good of you to address the issue in this HP forum and apologize. One must keep an eye out for stinkers, there are plenty of them out there.

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   rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago

   thanks, this is what I assumed happened after Paul Deeds clarified the site wasn't copying our articles.

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