Concern about Copied Content

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   Paul Edmondsonposted 11 years ago

   We've heard several concerns about Hubs getting copied and losing traffic and we know how frustrating this is for the author.  Google tries to identify the original content creator and show that in the search results. 
   
   If you have a copied Hub that is getting outranked in the search results, please post the phrase and a link to your Hub.
   
   For the purposes of this thread, only examples will remain published.  I will take the examples to Google.  The more we get the better. 
   
   Here's how to post to this thread.
   
   Phrase: "example phrase"
   Link: "link to Hub"
   
   The copied content must rank higher than your Hub to be a valid example.

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      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Phrase: "There are only a few necessary tools for bending electrical conduit. Benders are the most obvious, of course, and "
      
      Link: http://wilderness.hubpages.com/hub/EMT- … ectricians
      
      Copying site (Assuming you want it?):  http:// electricityusagemonitorkw.com/emt-electrical-canal-pipe-bending-directions-a-conduit-bending-guidebook-for-start-canoga-park-electricians/

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         Paul Edmondsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for posting the examples - I've looked at all of them.  I want to help people understand a little bit how we think Google tries to identify original content and how to tell if you're site is getting hurt by thieves. 
         
         First, we want search engines to recognize HubPages as a source of original content.  We try to detect duplicate content on the site and remove it quickly.  We believe this helps with overall reputation of the domain as a source for original work.  As Google crawls us, they see HubPages as a source for original content.
         
         I'd like to break Wilderness's example down.  Hopefully this helps people see if content is getting hurt by scrapers in Google search.
         
         The phrase Wilderness gave as an example to find the scraper is: "There are only a few necessary tools for bending electrical conduit. Benders are the most obvious, of course, and "
         
         https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ther … p;ie=UTF-8
         
         Clearly you can see that scraped content is ranking higher than his own.  However, Google treats long queries differently.  I couldn't find the post on google search to get the exact number, but google treats really long phrases differently.  So in general, we don't get too concerned about a scraped content outranking original content when it's not resulting in lost traffic because the only way to find the scraper is with a really long phrase that often requires quotes to get exact matches.
         
         As the query is shortened by one word, his work outranks the scraped content.
         https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ther … mp;bih=676
         
         As the phrase is continually tightened up, you can see his work outranks the scrapers.
         https://www.google.com/search?q=%22tool … p;ie=UTF-8
         
         Finally, I like to get to real results.  What do people actually search for and how does his Hub rank.  Notice that his Hub is around the 5th or 6th spot competing with other high quality content and the scraper isn't present.  That's a sign that his Hub is behaving in a very healthy manner.
         
         https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+bend+conduit
         
         In all the examples I coud verify actual search terms sending traffic, the Hubs were outranking the scraped content. 
         
         You, as the owner of your content can file DMCA requests.  I cannot on your behalf.  However, I can ask our partners to look at the domains and see if they would like to continue to do business with them.  I hope they will stop which will take away incentives to copy content.  Thanks again for the examples.
         
         Now, I'm going to open this thread up to comments.  Feel free to ask questions.

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            theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you so much -- this is what we were whimpering about. We really appreciate it. xx

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            wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks so much for the explanation, Paul. 
            
            I might add that that particular hub has seen a drop in ratings (and traffic) for the keywords it's written around, even though the scraping site isn't above it.  It used to be #2 or #3 instead of #6. Hopefully it has received a gentle google slap for being a duplicate - I've filed a DMCA on the copy and it should be gone in a day or two.  We'll see.

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               Jean Bakulaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks Wilderness and Paul,
               Although at first I got scared, as I have time to think it over, I do not think any piece stolen is outranking mine. My traffic is about the same as it was last year at this time, it doesn't seem lower. Thanks for showing us what to do, I know it's time consuming to write instructions for everyone.

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                  radhikasreeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks Paul for clarifying things about copied content. My hub too got a google slap after it got copied. Now that the scraper's site has got suspended, hope everything would come back to normal.

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            wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry Paul, your first link is semi-ruined - the search shows up but the site shows a 404 error.  Pretty soon the search won't work either.
            
            I said I filed a DMCA on it - they actually do work!

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               Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks, Paul, for that explanation. It makes me feel better about what's actually happening out there even when my hubs are scraped. :-)

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            RachaelOhalloranposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Paul, the purpose of this thread is over 13 months old. Are you still looking for copied content that is outranking ours?

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            RachaelOhalloranposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Since we are the copyright holders of our content, does Hubpages have a trademark or copyright on Hubpages.com website format?
            
            kakun dot ru has copied the whole Hubpages website format (exact setup) and features many of our hubs, well over 300. Many of us have been alerted that our hubs are there but we can't do anything about it because of the country of origin. My DMCA's kick back to contact host. Host has no contact info. Writer Fox gave us a form letter to use, but there has been no acknowedgment. Since this involves a much bigger issue - your very livelihood as owners of Hubpages.com format and presentation - what can you do to protect Hubpages?
            
            We are at a loss in getting content taken down from this site. But since the site itself has been copied at a much bigger level, perhaps your legal team can attack this from that angle since you have a much bigger claim and you are a "bigger fish" than we are, maybe you can get more attention to this matter than we can.

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               Glenn Stokposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Rachael, I just posted how I handle this in a newer thread on this topic here: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/121972#post2586213
               
               Note that since we own the copyright to our own hubs, HubPages cannot file DMCA complaints on our behalf. Legally only we can do it. As for your question about the copyright format, you can specify that HP should display that in each of your hubs. When you edit a hub, you'll find this option on the right hand side.

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                  RachaelOhalloranposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  noted.  I just left a comment there.
                  I was questioning Paul on whether he had a copyright on the whole format. I do understand about our individual hubs, that was not my question. The site hijacked Hubpages format, then hijacked the hubs. Since we have had no luck, then maybe the bigger picture - the whole site format - can be addressed legally

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                     Glenn Stokposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Oh, I see your point. That's a good question. You may want to send it direct to HP staff since this is an old thread. Paul may not be watching this one anymore.

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            Ilonagardenposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            This comment was very enlightening into how pages are ranked by Google in search results. I've written online for many years, but I remain clueless about this whole general area of seo, scraping and duplicate content- even though I especially had trouble with scraping back when my site was on geocities (dates me).
            
            I think this has been a major benefit of belonging to communities like Hubpages, learning about how the internet works and how that affects my writing.

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      Robie Benveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Phrase: "The difference between successful and ineffective money management dwells in knowing what you want to accomplish and finding the right way to do it. "
      Link: http://robiebenve.hubpages.com/hub/How- … -Budgeting

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      joanveronicaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Phrase: "school teens use red worms to change dryland subsistence farming"
      
      Link to HUb: http:// joanveronica.hubpages.com/hub/school-teens-use-red-worms-to-change-dryland-subsistence-farming
      
      Link of copier: www. educationforscience.com

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      Georgie Loweryposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      "Daryl Dixon, unlikely fan favorite of the show (played by Norman Reedus) uses a specific type of crossbow, a Horton Scout HD 125."
      
      http://georgielowery.hubpages.com/hub/F … alkingDead
      
      Copied content is located here and does rank higher tham my Hub:
      http://www.imdb.com/list/Mb4zwgk6Guk/#1
      
      This is actually a slideshow and most of the different slides have content copied directly from my Hub on them.
      
      This actually worries me, because this is the only one of my Hubs I've checked. If the first one comes up as having been copied, how many others will?

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      Robie Benveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Phrase: "Acrylic paint. Get the best quality paint you can afford. Aim for artist quality, not student quality. The student quality hues have more fillers, and respond less efficiently to color and media mixing. "
      
      Link: http://robiebenve.hubpages.com/hub/Acry … ep-by-Step

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         Paul Edmondsonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         If you see the steps I did for wilderness, you can determine if google is having trouble identifying your Hub over scrapers.
         
         It looks like your Hub is ranking well.
         
         https://www.google.com/search?q=acrylic … +beginners

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            Robie Benveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Paul, I  for all the support!
            I'd never tried to do the different steps, and it does make a difference.
            
            However, I still have not recovered from all the copied content I found yesterday. Most does not outrank me, so I did not post it here, but it's very demotivating to see that all my best hubs are copied multiple times.

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      sunasia22posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I was just curious if my article has been copied.  I checked one paragraph of my hub at Google search and I was surprised and disappointed that my whole article  http://sunasia22.hubpages.com/hub/Home- … Dry-Cough, has been copied with this blog...
      http://fatema-taher.blogspot.com/2012_0 … chive.html

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         rajan jollyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I just found 2 of my hubs copied by this blogger, in almost their entirety, with a few deletions of a line here and a couple of words there.
         I checked a few lines in google search and this site popped up.
         Has your above hub been taken down? Did you file a DMCA?

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      GoodLadyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      http://www.pets-and-animal.com/great-na … -dogs.html
      Just checked since the outrage about duplicate content and although the actual text of the article is not there anymore with an Oriental 404 in its place, the placing of the link is still above mine on Google.  I'm directly underneath it. 
      Could you ask Google to get rid of the copiers link from their pages.  My views have gone down considerably since my Hub was copied.  It was my best viewed Hub.
      Thanks.
      Penelope

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         TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         It appears you're right, the pets and animals one is still up and it contains all the stolen articles still.

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      DataEntryTherapyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I just recently found that my hub title and name was copied and embedded into 2 different webpages, yes, I googled myself to see why my traffic was going down and found those websites. I reported both of them to google and bing for copywrite infringement and am waiting to hear back from them. (unbelievable that someone would stoop that low on a personal hub) but it happens if you get alot of traffic for the subject you write on, which I guess I was the only person who had this out there until now....

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      DataEntryTherapyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      when you go into google, you can search 3d rose afghan, my hub has been at #1 for many years. When I went into bing, it had another site above mine with my main info pasted into their website, but currently bing and google are working on that, it is going down in the search (until hopefully the creep gets pushed off) but thats my only example I have. I have filed the DCMA on both Google & Bing and am waiting to hear back on how they are going to handle this.

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         DataEntryTherapyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I just received a reply back from DCMA:
         
         We are in receipt of the additional information.  It appears that the claim is for the use of the words “3D Rose Crocheted Afghan – DataEntryTherapy on HubPages”.  We are not finding a basis for the claim that these words enjoy copyright protection.  For information on material protected by copyright, please see ******
         We will be happy to revisit this concern if there is material protected by copyright (e.g., your photos) that are being infringed.
         Thank you,
         
         Microsoft DMCA Agent
         
         So my response back was that my name should be copyright protected but I knew they were not going to do anything because of how they kept asking for more information and they had everything. You know, if I copied microsofts name and embedded it in my hub I bet they would think differently....what a joke! Looks like anyone can steal your stuff and its ok.

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   LuisEGonzalezposted 11 years ago

   Phrase: "Being a photographer, I have traveled most of Florida in search of Florida places to visit although"
   Link: http://luisegonzalez.hubpages.com/hub/F … s-to-visit
   Copying Site: http://toothbrush.manufacturedwork.com/
   There are at least 2 more sites by the same "author"
   http:// fashion.collectingpowder.info/tag/places/
   http:// certifiedfinancialplanner.depositmoney.info/tag/visit/

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   Robie Benveposted 11 years ago

   Phrase: "When we describe a color as "light" or "dark", we are discussing its value or "brightness". This property of color tells us how light or dark a color is, based on how close it is to white."
   Link: http://robiebenve.hubpages.com/hub/Valu … the-credit

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      Robie Benveposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Different phrase from same hub, there are different sites outranking me
      
      Phrase: The easiest way to remember this dimension of color is to visualize the "gray scale," which runs from black to white and contains all of the possible monochromatic grays.
      
      Link: http://robiebenve.hubpages.com/hub/Valu … the-credit

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   Jane Greyposted 11 years ago

   Phrase: "Thinking about decorating your room in blue and white? This color union is a match mirrored in the sky and clouds, the snowy mountains, the ocean and breaker waves. Perhaps this sympathy with nature..."
   
   Link to hub: http://janegrey.hubpages.com/hub/Blue-a … Decorating
   
   There are about six articles that have copied mine, and they all show up above mine in the Google search results. I used to get 100+ views a day on this hub, now I get 1. Thanks for working on this!

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   gosupressposted 11 years ago

   Phrase: 9 Best iphone 5 armbands for running and other sports
   
   Link to Hub: http://gosupress.hubpages.com/hub/iphon … ng-armband
   
   A Squidoo page outranks me. I filed a DMCA complaint to Squidoo. My page got de-indexed because Google thinks the original is the Squidoo one.

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   Melovyposted 11 years ago

   Phrase: "The first time I had this cake I was seven years old and it was my birthday. I thought my mother was a genius for making such an amazing cake. And I remembered that birthday all my life."
   Link to hub: http://melovy.hubpages.com/hub/Hedgehog … ake-Recipe
   
   There are 7 results that outrank my hub for this search, almost all to a site Newsalloy. This is possibly not a case of copied content as it seems to lead to a site full of links, but it seems odd, and the hub has been getting fewer views than it used to.

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   Glenn Stokposted 11 years ago

   Phrase: "There are a number of component failures that turn on the check engine light. One of the most expensive is the catalytic converter."
   
   Link to Hub: http://glennstok.hubpages.com/hub/Avoid … gine-Light

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   Glenn Stokposted 11 years ago

   I am sure Google will want to know about this one.
   
   This thief played some PHP coding games to let Google bots see my article and rank on that, but human visitors are transferred to another page selling surge protectors. Viewing in a browser will just transfer. Google Webmaster Tools has a feature to view as a bot sees it. But it can only be used on our own domain. I assume he used "PHP Header" or "meta refresh" to redirect.
   
   
   Phrase: "Many people make the mistake of buying a surge protector that gives little or no protection"
   
   Link to Hub: http://glennstok.hubpages.com/hub/how-t … -protector
   
   Google listing shows the following URL, but it redirects elsewhere as explained above:
   
   http: // ly.footbargain.info/tripp-lite-isobar8ultra-isobar-surge.php
   
   (I broke up the link with spaces so as not to give them link juice).

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   Glenn Stokposted 11 years ago

   Phrase: "avoid throwing away years with an incompatible partner"
   
   Link to Hub: http://glennstok.hubpages.com/hub/Somet … lationship
   
   Copies of this are on three different sites shown in Google listing results.

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    jezebellaminaposted 11 years ago

    1.) Phrase: "how to make money installing apps on your iphone"
    
    Link to hub: http://jezebellamina.hubpages.com/hub/H … roid-phone
    
    2.) Phrase: "How to Make Money on Your iPhone or Android Phone"
    
    Link to hub: http://jezebellamina.hubpages.com/hub/H … s-for-Apps
    
    3.) Phrase: "Glacier Bay Dual Flush Toilet Blue Button; What's it For?"
    
    Link to hub: http://jezebellamina.hubpages.com/hub/G … n-is-Which
    
    4.) Phrase: "Would You Think I Was Crazy if I Said I'm in LOVE with my New Dual-Flush Toilet??"
    
    Link to hub: http://jezebellamina.hubpages.com/hub/W … New-Toilet
    
    5.) Phrase: "Using Recycled Water from your Washing Machine to Water Your Plants--Be Green and Save Green!"
    
    Link to hub: http://jezebellamina.hubpages.com/hub/U … Save-Green
    
    
    THANK YOU!!!!

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    radhikasreeposted 11 years ago

    I used to get about 30-50 views per day for this hub. But since it got copied, the views reduced to 5-20.
    Copied sentences: "You can go shops and buy those colorful, bright and exquisite decorative items to adorn your living room. But are they affordable to the common man? Those attractive pieces might be expensive for their value and appearance.
    Link to my hub: http://radhikasree.hubpages.com/hub/Mak … se-flowers
    
    
    Copied poem (some lines): “They came flying from the woods they sat together on the branches
    they looked at each other with cheers they cheeped and chirped with love; When leaves of branches fell down, when drops of rain fell down, when snow from the mountains fell down, they didn’t fall or fly away”;
    Link to my hub: http://radhikasree.hubpages.com/hub/Love-poem-of-birds
    
    One more poem got copied by a blog. I contacted him and he assured me that he would remove it from there. If he won't, then I would post its link here.
    
    Thank you Hubpages!

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    Just Ask Susanposted 11 years ago

    This used to be my highest read hub and now it is only getting a few views a day.
    http://just-ask-susan.hubpages.com/hub/ … hroom-Soup

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    theraggededgeposted 11 years ago

    Not sure why it has to rank higher? It's illegally copied. There are only two results for this phrase,
    
    "Painted rocks make great gifts, especially if you develop the skill to create a good likeness of a pet."
    
    The first one is my hub: http://theraggededge.hubpages.com/hub/H … aint-Rocks
    
    The second is the scraper: http://www.  artswithdesign.com/how-to-paint-rocks.html
    
    Here's one phrase from a hub, where the hub doesn't even feature in the results:
    
    "Watercolor pencils can be used just like regular colored pencils and with a little added H20 will transform into glorious jewel-like color washes."
    
    Hub: http://theraggededge.hubpages.com/hub/W … ls-Reviews
    
    Scraper: http://e-learning7.  blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/watercolor-pencils-reviews.html
    
    ...and look at his page views! All that traffic should be mine. BTW JudiBee & Wilderness -- this looks like another one of 'his sites.
    
    Edit: no of course it can't be -- it's a Blogger site. Looks like the content is all HP stuff though.

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    Ghost32posted 11 years ago

    I've had a few copied verbatim--mostly political pieces, for whatever reason--but Google has (so far, anyway) been able to ID mine as the originals.  At least, I can find mine (ranked) but not theirs (unranked) with a casual search.
    
    Good to see this thread up and running, though.  Thanks!

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       Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Good news--all the sites seem to be suspended now!

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          radhikasreeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah! the sites seem to be suspended!! Cheers!

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          Glenn Stokposted 11 years agoin reply to this

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                Jean Bakulaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                I'm going to post a paragraph, but about 2/3 of a long hub were stolen from me:
                Mine--http://jeanbakula.hubpages.com/Cancer-Moon-Sign-People-Caring-Cautious-Changeable
                
                "They are very well versed in ancient knowledge that is being rediscovered. Since the Moon travels through all twelve signs of the Zodiac in about 28 days, you will see Cancer Sun and Moon natives in twelve different lights! You won't ever be bored for sure."
                
                http:// cancermoonsign.post.yt/cancer_moon_sign_
                They called it Cancer Moonsign People, Caring, Cautious, Changeable
                
                "They are very well versed in ancient knowledge that is being rediscovered. Since the Moon travels through all twelve signs of the Zodiac in about 28 days, you will see Cancer Sun and Moon natives in twelve different lights! You won't ever be bored for sure."
                
                And they took a lot more, most of the hub word for word. They also had the nerve to rip off a paragraph from my personal blog. When I try to go back, it's a place called getresponse.com

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                   Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

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    faythefposted 11 years ago

    Now that the sites have been suspended is anyone seeing an increase in traffic ? Or is it to soon to tell?

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       jezebellaminaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       My traffic doubled almost immediately within 24 hours of the sites being shut down. My hub traffic is pretty much back to normal now, thank goodness!
       
       I should also note that most of the stolen hubs were my most viewed hubs before the theft.

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    Beth100posted 11 years ago

    Not sure what to make of this, but I am sure many of you have come across this where my article content is copied (completely, or portions of) and throughout it is embedded links to advertising sites.
    
    Is this happening to anyone else, and what can be done? 
    
    Sample phrase:
    
    "The topic of Canada is as broad as is the country is vast and diverse. Canada is world renowned for its friendliness, cultural diversity, peaceful nature, sprawling lands, fresh air and natural beauty. There..."
    
    Link to my hub:
    
    http://beth100.hubpages.com/hub/Canada- … is-Country
    
    Links to copied content:
    
    (example 1 - embedded hyperlinks throughout entire article) http://writerscouch.com/forum/topic/can … is-country
    
    (example 2 - phrase copied only but hyperlink at end of blog to advertising site)  http://gab.omnilogic.net/view/post:1197821
    
    (example 3 - entire content copied) http://ansir.eklablog.com/canada-random … -a81567034
    
    (example 4 - entire content copied, other HP writers' content are also copied in entirety) http://218.26.219.21:81/read.php?tid=30902&ds=1
    
    These are just a few examples.

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    Thelma Albertsposted 11 years ago

    This is getting so weird here. My best selling and good traffic hub is decreasing it´s traffic.
    
    Phrase: "I have encountered paraffin wax when I was working in Spa Elysium, Ireland. At first I was sceptical..."
    
    My Link:  http://hubpages.com/hub/How-To-Use-Para … s-And-Feet
    
    Copied links:
    http://www.fystore.com/p70994/Best-selling-Paraffin-Spa 454g-peach-paraffin-wax-Hand-care-treatment-1PCS.html
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Paraffin-Bath-S … 0991889016
    
    They copied from the beginning until 4 to 5 pharaghraps. I´m sure now there are still more of these copied links

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    Thelma Albertsposted 11 years ago

    I have just clicked on the fystore.com site copied of my Paraffin wax and it was suddenly gone. Does it mean something that the link is being taken off the site?

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    GardenExpert999posted 11 years ago

    A hub of mine used to get some Google traffic but it has all but stopped. Has my hub become de-indexed?
    
    The phrase I used to search for it  is:
    
    "I am especially fond of all types of clematis, and the beautiful pink/lilac hues of 'Josephine' is breathtaking."
    
    Search results - https://www.google.com/search?q=I+am+es … mp;bih=799 - do not show my hub at all - only a scraper site which has since had its account suspended.
    
    I cannot find my hub at all in Google search, even with the exact title in quotes "Top 10 Climbing Plants for a Small Trellis", but it seems to have plenty of backlinks (not made by me) and webstat checks, again not made by me.

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    Dolores Monetposted 11 years ago

    This is a great idea and I hope that it helps. I am so sick of seeing my stuff copied word for word, pictures too and filing a DMCA does not always work. It only works for sites that display Google ads.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       If the site doesn't have Google ads, do a WhoIs search to find out who the hosting company is, and file a DMCA with them.  That works too.

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    nifwlseirffposted 11 years ago

    My sciatic hub has been copied verbatim and in part so many times. I've filed DMCA take-down notices galore, but many are ignored. Also, Google is not fast about removing 404 pages from those copies that have been taken down, even when requested.
    
    Phrase: "Sciatica, or pain along the sciatic nerve, can be overwhelming. It can send shooting or burning pain from the lower back, into the hip, and all the way to the feet."
    
    Hub: http://nifwlseirff.hubpages.com/hub/Sci … l-Remedies
    
    Most of the results are now either pages and sites full of links (which I never submitted to), or copied content in spam comments. I have no idea how to combat *these*, as DMCA notices may not or don't apply!

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    cocopremeposted 11 years ago

    How much does copied content drag down our stats and traffic?  I find copied stuff all the time, but most of it is on such spammy sites that it barely registers in a search.  I guess what I need to know is how diligent do I need to be about searching for copies and filing complaints?  The process of all that is time consuming and takes away from writing more hubs.  When is it worth it to hunt for copies?

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       nifwlseirffposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I tend to only go looking when I notice a drastic drop in traffic.
       
       My sciatic hub dropped to less than 1/6 of its normal traffic, virtually overnight, many months ago. When I went looking for answers, I found so many copies (including the images too!) After getting rid of the worst offenders via DMCA complaints, this hub still only reaches 1/4 - 1/3 of its previous Google traffic level.
       
       A couple of my other hubs have had similar issues in the last 4-5 months, and still haven't recovered.
       
       I don't know what other more experienced hubbers do about this...

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    page1articlesposted 11 years ago

    Jezebellamina: where the stolen hubs outranking your original hubs?

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       jezebellaminaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, for the phrases I listed above. I had a few more stolen hubs that I didn't include in the list because my hubs were higher in the search results than the copies. I don't believe traffic was affected for those hubs...

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    postsposted 11 years ago

    Firstly , i wanna thank Paul for this great effort. The sad part of publishing an article is when it gets copied and the most depressing is when it outranks your own original content in Google. There are lots of ways to control and minimize it for our own blog (preferably self-hosted), but for hubpages, we have certain limitations.Howevere, Google is updating and transforming its algo to fight these content thieves. From our side, we can easily check if our content or hub is being scrapped and can be able to take appropriate actions. Some of the sites i use for this purpose are
    1) copyscape.com ( for checking if any of my hubs are being copied)
    2) myfreecopyright.com ( After i publish my content publicly :- this site will record and mail the exact time of publication and digital signatures of the published content, it may not stop the hubs from being copied but is a great tool if we need to complain in DMCA)

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    stricktlydatingposted 11 years ago

    Hi Paul,
    I've reported close to 20 copyright infringements in the last 2 weeks, Google (Blogger), LinkedIn and various other sites, I know that at least one was ranking higher than my Hub but don't have it on hand just now. A few have already been removed by Google so it may be amongst those.  However if I find it again I shall let you know.  It has been very time consuming following up the removal of copied content and I am now starting to put copyright warning within my Hubs text as the pages I'm finding are a straight copy/pase of my work.

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    stricktlydatingposted 11 years ago

    I have found you 2 examples where copied content is ranking ahead of one of my Hubs.
    
    My original Hub (Published in 2010) : http://stricktlydating.hubpages.com/hub … S-MESSAGES
    
    This Hub ranks 3rd in google when I use the first line of the text in Google search: "I am living large and taking charge"
    
    There is 2 different pages of copied content which is currently ranking higher than my original work:
    URL 1: www.wattpad.com/usuer/FedzD21
    URL 2: http://vampirefreaks.com/journal_commen … ry=8107592
    * Both URL's have been reported to those sites last week but remain indexed at present in Google, ranking higher than my original work (Which does have a copyright warning on the page).
    
    Hope this will help!
    Thanks for taking up this matter too.

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    stricktlydatingposted 11 years ago

    And another:
    
    My Hub is: http://stricktlydating.hubpages.com/hub … hen-Quotes
    
    Rank 4th when the 2nd paragraph copied "That awkward moment when you take off your sweater".
    
    3 other sites rank higher than my original work published 19 April 2011
    
    I'm sure there more out there too yet for me to check!

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    rajan jollyposted 11 years ago

    Phrase :
    "Other factors like sunburn, atmospheric pollution, hormonal changes, stress can also leave various marks on the face as well as on the body"
    
    My hub :
    http://rajanjolly.hubpages.com/hub/Some … -Blemishes
    
    Above hub copied at :
    http://fatema-taher.blogspot.in/2012/06 … -acne.html
    
    Another of my hub :
    http://rajanjolly.hubpages.com/hub/-Benefits-Of-Yogurt
    
    Above hub copied at :
    http://fatema-taher.blogspot.in/2012/06 … ogurt.html
    
    This blogger has copied almost the entire hub except for a few deletions of a lines or a few words here and there.
    I just found these copied hubs now so have yet to check for more.

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       theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Blogger blogs are easy to take down. File a DMCA with Google for each article copied. Google will act within 7 days or so and have the account closed.

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       Glenn Stokposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Rajah -
       
       I noticed the copies of your hubs are still there.  I'm curious to know why you haven't gotten them taken down yet . Blogspot is owned by Google.  They took the copies of my hubs down wihin 24 hours after I filed my DMCA with Google.  Did you use their online DMCA form? It's quick and easy, just as theraggededge said in the prior post. Don't put it off and let these thieves win.

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          TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          I think the time it takes google will be different for each individual. I only say this because yesterday I got a message from google that they had finally checked the DMCA complaint I had filed about that scraper who was stealing all of our content a few weeks ago. All it said was that they looked into my claim and it appears that the website was already taken down... so in some cases it can take weeks before google looks into it.

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    Marketing Meritposted 11 years ago

    I recently filed 3 separate DMCA complaints with Google comprising 50 urls. Some sites were automatically removed whilst others took up to 3 weeks to be manually reviewed and removed.
    In that time, several of the offending sites were showing internal errors or account suspended (by hosting company). This meant that Google declined to delete the url as it was not infringing. All rather irksome.
    
    The Blogspot url was dealt with separately and that only took a day or two to resolve.

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       todphiferposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Content is the king, google love fresh and quality content, when panda is running and found copy content its give the penalty and effected whole site not a  particular pages............

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    Marketing Meritposted 11 years ago

    Good Lady Penelope, you will struggle to have the entry de-indexed as the duplicate content is no longer visible and Google will return a "url not infringinging" reply to any DMCA notification you submit to them.
    
    Something similar happened to me. Content was removed but the offending page was subsequently redirected to a different entry, prior to Google investigating my DMCA complaint. The original site listing is still there and still ranking above mine. I can only hope that, in time, it will drop.
    
    However, there may be hope for you. Was your copied content removed as a direct result of this thread? If so, then maybe the Mods can take this up directly with Google.
    
    Yet another example of legitimate writers suffering at the hands of  plagiarism.

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       Glenn Stokposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I had a similar experience. When this happens, take a look at the subject field of the email you get from Google claiming that URL is not infringing. If there is a case number in the subject then you are in luck. In my case, the person who plagiarized my hub had rewritten it so that it didn't match, and reposted it, after my DMCA complaint. But I explained this to Google in my reply, keeping the case number in the subject field.  Shortly after that I noticed that the listing had been removed.

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    step2csposted 11 years ago

    Where can one file these DMCA reports?

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       Marketing Meritposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       For Google DMCA go here...
       Google DMCA

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       Glenn Stokposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       See the learning center DMCA filing instructions...
       
       http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/how- … -complaint

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    Susie Writesposted 11 years ago

    After seeing my nice profile score which I have enjoyed for the last 4 years plummet from 97 to 79 I started checking my hubs. No violations but I did find one that was 42% copied by a site based in China. They copied the format and pertinent content but removed and/or changed some words. I will be filing a complaint on that one. But the other thing I found and am not sure what to do about is that there seems to be several sites all leading to the same video of my chosen topic with an offer to buy their e-book. All these sites do not have my content posted on them but they do have sections of my content in their search descriptions that show up on google. Is that legal? Would I file the same type of DMCA complaint and should I list the sites here on this thread? Thanks!

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    Elena.posted 11 years ago

    Copied hub: http://elena.hubpages.com/hub/Love-Lett … I-love-you
    
    Copying site: : http://interstellar-brew808.blogspot.com/
    
    I wrote to Google a week ago, but haven't heard one way or the other since.  The little red copyright symbols still features next to my hub.

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       Glenn Stokposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Elena, Did you complete the DMCA report or did you just write an email to Google? My experience has been that Google removes the blogspot post within 24 hours. But you need to report it by using their form at...  https://support.google.com/bin/static.p … page=ts.cs

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          Elena.posted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Yep, did that Glenn -- third time this happens. First time I used the DMCA form it worked like a charm, ever since... not so much.  Perhaps it' because the second and third copies aren't a direct smash, "just" some parts of the article are ripped off...  Frustrating to boot.

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             Marketing Meritposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Did you specifically list the copied content Elena?

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                Elena.posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Nope... Should I have?  Never did in past...

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                   Marketing Meritposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   I'm pretty sure Googel advise it Elena
                   
                   When the entire article is copied it is sufficient to say something along the lines of:
                   
                   " The copyrighted article “XXX,” which can be viewed at the authorised URL given below, has been used without my permission.The copyrighted article begins with the excerpt "XXX."
                   
                   I usually list the first few sentences.
                   
                   However, when it is only elements of the article that have been copied, then you will need to be more prescriptive and detail these.
                   
                   In all honesty, I took a cursory glance at both your Hub and the Blogger post and couldn't identify where exactly the copyright breaches were. Due to the volume of DMCA complaints being received, then I doubt Google does very much more. It's helpful to lead them by the hand.
                   
                   As Glenn Stok stated above, Blogspot url's are usually actioned pretty swiftly.
                   
                   Best of luck with this.

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                      Elena.posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                      Cheers, advice much appreciated. Will go back to Google with details.

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    plogan721posted 11 years ago

    Is there a software program that finds your copied hub?

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       todphiferposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Here is some duplicate content checker websites or tools
       copyscape.com
       Duplichecker
       Plagium
       Plagiarisma

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          plogan721posted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks

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    ossmediaposted 11 years ago

    Hub should be original and unique.

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